WB-14 -> NewEgg.com for $199 a pair! Need advice.

[vinceisvince]

Yes I put the sub low pass as low as it can go (which is 40). The mains are still set to large and seem to get a good amount of the bass work. So you suggest the sub passover to be as high as it cam go? It would be about what you said.... 140 or so.

Yes. When you are using a receiver with crossovers, you disable the one on the sub. Once you get everything set up and sounding as good as you can, you can play with the knob, but do not rely on it, as you will hurt movies' soundtracks. They send sound below 120hz as a standard LFE.

I will crank up the center a bit too, that should help. Yea I do only have one xover setting for the amp, it'd be nice to configure all speakers individually.

For that, you need a newer receiver. Not brand new, just latest enough model with individual speaker configuration. Setting your mains as large, if you have too much bass now that you are diabling the LPF cam on the sub, just turn the double bass off and see how that does. The importance of going to all this trouble is to get movies and music to sound good. If you tune it for one, the other may suffer. An added plus is you learn your system.

I saw that new egg cranked the price back to $600 each! I really want the ws speakers now but I can hold off for now.

newegg jumps around a LOT! I expected sales on cyber Monday to be great, and they were higher than the Sat-Sun sale. For instance the 12d sub u could get for $299 on Sunday was on sale for $499 on cyber Monday. crazy..

I cannot disable the lpf on the sub unless cramming up the lpf is essentially doing that. Here's a pic of the sub

I have the phase set to 180 I think...don't remember touching that. Auto switch. Top switch is volume. I have the sub plugged into the left lfe port.
Yea I really wanted that ref 12 d sub but couldn't justify it .

[mustang guy]

Turn the Lowpass knob all the way clockwise to 120hz will effectively disable the LPF on the sub. The phase should be at 0 unless is sounds better at 180. Typically used with more than one sub to reduce cancellation when the subs are seperation.

You don't really need that 12d sub anyway. Look around for deals on used subs as finances allow. If you are not in a hurry, perhaps you can get into a higher end Klipsch sub, a Velodyne, SVS, or Paradigm sub. You could even build your own sub, like the table tuba, if you are any good at woodworking.

[vinceisvince]

Awesome, you've been amazing! Last night we listened to some music, it was pretty good stuff. I've been using the direct line setting, heard it was good to use for music, unless classical or orchestration, where you would want to use a setting for that to represent a hall effect. Anyhow I didn't realize how old my amp really was. I don't know if it would make much of a difference or not but as you said it shouldn't matter. I was just browsing around leisurely at accessories4less. All I would care to have is HDMI and wireless air play/network capabilities. Also saw that pre-out on an amp is if I have another amp laying around so I wouldn't need that right? I'll probably wait until tax season comes and see how much I have left over anyhow. There must be a quality difference between amps/receivers if some cost $1000 and others are $200 right? Or is it just features? Can one receiver send a better sound to your speakers than another one? Not necessarily talking about wattage but the signal?

I am going to try some games on the speakers in a bit and watch a full movie tonight. I turned up the center and it sounded better, was watching a netflix show and could hear the people talk for once! I'll have to switch the phase to 0.

I cannot say that i've listened to a nice sub over a crappy sub... I guess there can be a difference. I just expect the one I have to shake up the house a little bit and that is ok with me.

[mustang guy]

In answer to the question I think you are asking, you don't have to buy a receiver with pre-amp out's. They allow you to use an external amplifier.

Yes, all receivers are not created equally. There are huge differences in output quality. I have had very good luck with Onkyo equipment, and recommend it. When the time comes, and the tax check, looking at receivers with Audyssey autocalibration would be important. Not all Onkyo and Integra equipment have Audyssey.

When the time comes and you have the budget, post a question like "What receiver should I buy?". In the spring, when tax money comes in, the advice will be different than now. Receiver technology changes quickly. A nice place to look at stuff in a digestable way is the Crutchfield website.