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Sub Crossover Slope & LFE


boa12

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i put this also under tech?, but then thought it might be better put here. thanks in advance.

without getting into all the particulars, is there a general formula for calculating db loss away from the set point on a variable crossover on a sub? probably not considering my sub specs just give me 12db/octave initial, 48db/octave ultimate.

f.e. if i set the cross at 80hz i figure it should be about -10db at 120hz. the tech at vel said though that it would be only about -3db.???

also, where does most LFE really lie? probably varies greatly by mix job, but for movie lfe i assume 60hz down. but what about music/concert lfe. figure that could go higher.

ok the reason is my anal self just hates the idea of cutting off/losing LFE. but also want to lower that vel cross to jive better w/ the klf-30 fronts set to large on music. the classic bass manager's dilemma.

thanks much.

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Klipsch KLF 30 (front), KLF C-7, Cornwall I (rear)

Velodyne HGS-18 sub woofer

Monsterbass 400 sub interconnects & Monster CX-2 biwire & Z-12 cable

Marantz SR-8000 receiver

Sony DVP-C650D cd/dvd player

Sony Trinitron 27" stereo tv

Toshiba hi-fi stereo vcr

Technics dual cassette deck

Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 digital cable box

Boa's Listenin Lounge:

Klipsch RF-3 (front), RC-3, cheap little Technics (rear)

Monster MCX Biwires

Sony STR-DE935 a/v receiver

Kenwood KR-9600 AM/FM stereo receiver (vintage 1975)

Russound AB-2 receiver switch to RF-3

Teac PD-D1200 5-disk cd changer

Technics direct drive turntable

Sega Genesis game player

Sub: None yet

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nevermind, reading one of ray's old posts, doing some research, & actually doing some listening tests, i think i've answered both questions.

my conclusions are that it's not a good idea to use the

sub's crossover if you're attached to the receiver sub out which is also using it's own bass management crossover (usually 80-100hz which again is too high for

most subs & large mains).

& yes lfe does sound better if it's not cut-off also by the sub crossover.

so i'm going back to setting the klf-30 fronts & c-7 to small (& forgoing their extra but interfering bass kick) for 5 channel stereo/music. but for 5.1 sources

using direct mode so all channels are running full out.

sorry for the momentary laspe of reason. or was it a glimmer of hope? cwm39.gif

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Klipsch KLF 30 (front), KLF C-7, Cornwall I (rear)

Velodyne HGS-18 sub woofer

Monsterbass 400 sub interconnects & Monster CX-2 biwire & Z-12 cable

Marantz SR-8000 receiver

Sony DVP-C650D cd/dvd player

Sony Trinitron 27" stereo tv

Toshiba hi-fi stereo vcr

Technics dual cassette deck

Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 digital cable box

Boa's Listenin Lounge:

Klipsch RF-3 (front), RC-3, cheap little Technics (rear)

Monster MCX Biwires

Sony STR-DE935 a/v receiver

Kenwood KR-9600 AM/FM stereo receiver (vintage 1975)

Russound AB-2 receiver switch to RF-3

Teac PD-D1200 5-disk cd changer

Technics direct drive turntable

Sega Genesis game player

Sub: None yet

rock on!

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