banasikdrummer Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I'm fairly new here and have some questions about room dimensionsand speaker placement, as I've heard it can affect the sound qualityjust as much as having low-end materials. I just recently boughtRF-35s, RS-7s (with stands), and an RC-7 and had hoped to have them upand running to replace small speakers that I had. I was readingthrough some other posts in the architecural thread and read somewherethat with small rooms you don't want ot try to squeeze lots of speakersinto it. Since I'm in college, I don't really have the option to have adedicated home theater room, and was planning on tossing all of myspeakers in my bedroom (which is 11'x13.5'). Will having all of thesespeakers in such a small space make the speakers sound significantlyworse than if I had them in, let's say, a living room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Generally speaking, the smaller the room the worse it's going to sound. Does that mean less/smaller speakers are going to sound better than larger speakers in a smaller room? I don't think so. In fact, one could readily argue that increased directivity will reduce the speaker/room interaction and thus avoid many of the detrimental effects of smaller rooms. And the only way to increase directivity is to make the speaker larger...not smaller. (Increased directivity means the speaker sprays sound over a smaller area - picture it as a focusing effect that keeps the sound from bouncing off the side walls of your room). The only time you can claim speakers are too big is when you're forced to sit too close to the speakers such that the sound doesn't have time to meld together. Imagine sitting 1" from the speakers...as you can imagine, you're either going to hear the woofer or the tweeter, but not both at the same time. But as you move further back, you can start to hear both the tweeter and the woofer. Apparently the distance at which the sound gels together can be roughly approximated as 10x the driver spacing. So on the RF-35, you're looking at about 12" or so? That means you need to sit 10 feet back! So any amount closer that you sit, the more fine-tuned your listening and speaker position needs to be. You could probably get away with 6 feet and not notice huge detrimental effects, but it's not going to be ideal. It's been my experience with smaller rooms that the bass response suffers the most....likely because the fundamentals for all the standing waves in the room occur right around the vital 50Hz-100Hz range. So on top of difficult blending between woofer and tweeter, you will need to fight an unnatural tonal balance in the system. Because of this, moving the speakers and listening position around as little as a few inches can yield dramatic changes in the sound - which is why proper placement is considered such a vital aspect of 'tuning a system'. Taking all of this into account, it follows that the best way to optimize the listening experience in your room is to sit as far away from the speakers as possible while trying to find locations that minimize the detrimental effects of standing waves. One way to achieve this is to place the speakers near the front corners of the room and then put the main listening position along the rear wall. While this is generally considered bad audiophile practice, I've found that this is a very good compromise for a very small room. Nulls don't usually build up along the back wall and since you're sitting so close the reflections off the back-wall don't have a huge impact either. The biggest downside is that it is very difficult to maintain stereo symmetry with all the other furniture that needs to be in the room. The nice thing about changing the layout in a room is that it is a free thing to experiment with (as long as you've got plenty of time on your hands). And really, the best way to find the best layout is to experiment and get a feel for how your speakers interact with your room. This would involve walking around and noticing how dramatically the sound changes. Anyways, that's just my take on the situation and I'm sure others will chime in with different experiences and opinions. If it's any encouragement, I've been dragging around Marantz 940's and Klipsch Chorus II's throughout college and have been greatly enjoying the music to which I listen. Afterall, when it's all said and done enjoying the music is all that matters anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banasikdrummer Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 Alright, I forgot to mention this before, but my drumset takes up agood chunk of my room (the farthest points of the drumset make itroughly 8'x9')....so that makes the listening area of my room out to beeither 5.5'x13.5', or 11'x6.75'. The way I have my drums set upnow, my listening space takes on the latter, which seems like it mightbe the better choice, since the RF-35s are supposed to be at least sixfeet apart, and I'm supposed to be (as Dr. Who stated) about ten feetaway. My concern, though, is with the RS-7s. With the set-up I would begoing with now (assuming I can't sweet talk my way into taking overanother room for HT), each RS-7 would be about three feet to eitherside of my head, and no more than a foot behind me. Would that be a badthing or not, since mostly all of the sound is going to be coming fromthe RF-35s and RC-7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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