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Of course, not for sale! How could I give up membership in the "MCM Club?"

Yeah, The picture is me and them! I am 6' 1" and the ceiling is ten feet. This is inside my home and even with a livingroom that is 54' x 25' they began to loom large. However my home is built inside a warehouse that is 16,000 sqft with 19' ceiling. They don't look so big out there! I am not really trying to sell them. I like them. They have a great sound! I just wanted to know value for insurance purposes. Sorry I was not more clear and thanks for the offers. Kind regards, Bill Mars PS I thought that I had email notification of reponses, but aparently not. I think I have it now..

Still got them. Still great sound. Any ideas about value? Bill

---------------- On 5/18/2003 4:18:56 AM marksdad wrote: wow. it kind of looks like a bunch of stacked boxes? but where did you get the klipsch labels? your not married are you ---------------- It does look like a stack of boxes. I heard that these were actually band equipment. The wood is covered with a fiberglass veneer and all corners are protected by aluminum angle. Though each speaker has a pair of handles, I do pity the roadies who moved this stuff! Actually I am married and my wife loves these speakers, too. When I played the THX movie intro sound, the walls shook, the blown insuation around the recessed ceiling lights trickled through and Anne said, "Whew, after THAT I think I need a cigarette!" We are converting a warehouse into a home here in Atlanta. The living room is 44x25x10. The "home" part is about 3600 SQFT. The warehouse itself is 16,000 sqft with 18 foot ceiling. The walls are two feet thick and we have no neighbors. With the doors to the house open, the sound carries to all corners of the warehouse. It actually seems to DIMINISH when you get close to the speakers.

---------------- On 5/17/2003 9:44:27 AM easylistener wrote: My god that thing is huge. How does it sound? What are you using to drive those beasts? ---------------- It sounds GREAT! Weird, this is my first Klipsch and they are enormous. Weight at a little over 1200 lbs for the stacked pair! I am right now using a Parasound 6 channel high current amp with 80 WPC at 8 ohms. With the amp wide open I can not input more than about 2 on a scale of 10 from the preamp or be deafened. These speakers are very high efficiency it does not take much wattage to drive them when you get the crossovers working and eq balanced. I have just gotten a Parasound AV-2500u with a 5.1 card, and a Parasound CSE that will give me the two mains, two center surrounds and two rear surounds and a rear subwoofer. I also just got a B&K THX Reference 7250 5 channel with 200 wpc at 8 ohms. Will integrate this into the system as well. Will be running some of the Klipsch MCM speakers on individual channels. Got a couple of Crest FA901s for the subs. WHEW this is turning into a PROJECT! Am right now researching designs for the subwoofers and a center main that will be compatible with the MCM 19000s. Anyone have any suggestions?

---------------- On 5/17/2003 9:22:13 AM m00n wrote: Don't think you can. Only the push of a button by spidyman can. Get it? Spidyman, webmaster? Eh eh? See how I did that? Oh ok.... I know it was lame. Oh damn it's to early on Saturday morning for me as I feel delerious right now. My kids must learn to sleep past 6:30. ---------------- ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Sorry about that

Several people have emailed me about pictures of my speaker stack. I am 6'2" if that gives you an idea about their size. The ceiling is ten feet high. Each cabinet is covered in fiberglas veneer over 3/4 plywood with aluminum angles and corners. Also have handles built into the sides. Some Specs: MSWM Bass W Folded horn Bins -- two each stack Size: 70"w at front x 17"high x 44" deep x32" w at rear Weight: 160 lbs each 6 ohms, 15" K43 Low frequency driver each SPL: @ one watt input = 99db, (av 40 -400Hz) MSSM Conical Horn Low Mids -- One each stack Size: 37"w at front x 14" high x 36.5 deep x 7.25 w at rear Weight: 89Lbs each 12 ohms, 10" k41 upper bass driver SPL: @ one watt input = 100db, (av 350-1200HZ) MSM Upper Mid Horn Size: 37"w at front x 14" high x 36.5 deep x 7.25 w at rear Weight: 93Lbs each 3 ohms, FOUR .7" K55 Compression Drivers for one horn! Horn approx 34" w x 12" H x 33" long, 1.9" throat K47m Manifold SPL: @ one watt input = 100db, (av 800-6000Hz) MTM Tweeter array Size 14"h x 7.5"W x 7.5" Deep Weight: 13 lbs 3 Ohms, FIVE horn-loaded Piezoelectric Tweeters SPL: @ one watt input = 98 db, (av 10,000-18,000Hz) One article I read said that original cost (these were the top options with aluminum and fiberglass) was $12k, but I have seen them for sale much cheaper. Certainly it is a special application setup! The above is from a rumpled badly copied sheet from Klipsch, there is more . . . . . Still want to build a center and subs. Any ideas?

Several people have emailed me about pictures of my speaker stack. The bottom bass bins are 70 inches wide. I will post specs later. I am 6'2" if that gives you an idea about their size. The ceiling s ten feet high.

Picture of MX-700

Great stuff abdout the centers in this post. I am in contact with Chris Brunhaver at Adire Audio about building subwoofers and also a "Large Center Channel" for my Klipsch MCM 1900s. They have some good plans and kits. I find him very knowledgeable and hope to arrive at some conclusions soon. He seems to understand the Klipsch speakers and has some good ideas about compatible new drivers and horns. I have been bitten by the DIY bug and am eager to start building. I already have three sheets of Baltic Birch. . . . . I wonder if I can build a subwoofer out of an old refrigerator, guess I could have some cool tunes. :>) Hmmmm Bill ATlanta GA

This is really a slick remote. Just got it and am still tweaking it. Basic programming was less than an hour. Great IR Database and really easy intuitive software. It must be programmed with a computer, but that is so simple. So far it controls everything and very easily done. Good feel, buttons convenient. Got a Pronto TSU 2000 that I never really felt good about. These LCD screens are difficult for my fingers and miss easily. I like a hard button remote, but was getting tired of having to use multiple standard remotes. This HTM MX 700 has a great feel to it. Your fingers just naturally find the buttons. Now all the other remotes are put away and I only have one, the HTM MX-700! I even like the light color so I can find it easily. Will post more as I take some more time tweaking. It even has a small, but very powerful additional remote that comes with it, great for the secondary home or kids AV setup. Very Highly Reccomended. Bill

Does anyone have experience with the LAB12 DIY Folded Horn Sub? http://www.prosoundweb.com/lsp/ http://www.speakerrepair.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=genem&Product_Code=LAB12&Category_Code=K+LAB12 http://home.attbi.com/~ps99/labhorn/ Appears to be a bit demanding to make, but looks like it would put out some serious thump! Now if I just make a mouth extension. . . . . . Anybody got another DIY dual 12 sub they like? Please post info and details. Bill Atlanta GA

---------------- On 4/22/2003 12:21:30 PM trespasser_guy wrote: I will put in my 2 cents worth of info that I have gathered over my short time of wanting to build horn speakers... Search the net for horn theory, and horn loudspeaker design, etc. I found some good sites, but am at school right now, and don't know the URL's. I can post them later, when I get home, if you would like to read more. EDIT: That value that must eb above 2 could also be Qes, or Qts... so, just about anything with a Q. lol I will check when I get home. ---------------- I would like to have some of those links. I want to build a good, big thumping sub. Also some speaker cabinets like the Klipshorn fior an ElectroVoice 15" woofer 14" horn and tweeter horn. I thiank that they would do well in a Klipshorn style cabinet also need to buyild a large center speaker to go with my MCM 1900s. Thanks Bill

---------------- On 4/25/2003 1:08:10 PM Mulman wrote: Hi There, This is my first post on this forum, but your inquiry prompted be to respond with my experience with the Sunfire Ultimate. My first unit hooked up to Klipsch RF7s had a terrible hum. After talking with Sunfire, I exchanged it for another unit that had the same problem. Very frustrated at this point and eliminating all ground-loop possibilities I contacted Sunfire again, who simply said that is a function of the receiver and nothing could be done about it. (I have a very accoustically dead room, and could easily hear the hum from 8 feet away). Further investigation revealed the Ultimate Electronics display had the same hum on a third unit (but you couldnt hear it due to the noisy store atmoshpere) I then exchanged the unit for a Denon 5803 which was dead quiet. So my advise to you is, make sure whoever you buy it from has a good exchange/return policy and see if it will be a good fit for your speakers. My experierence is that it doesnt like high efficiency speakers like Klipsch. Beyond the fatal hum, I loved the unit and wished it would have worked. I still have a favorable impression of Sunfire, but the "Ultimate" wasnt. Feel free to email me if you need any additional info. Thanks, and good hunting. ---------------- NOW I am concerned. I don't want to spend this much money on a hum. haven't ordered it yet. Maybe I shoud wait or go with something that has been out longer. Not that I doubt Mulman's post, but have not heard any other complaints about the Ultimate. Still it does bode poorly that three Sunfires in a row had this problem. I am still in construction (dust and crud do not mix with good amps) of our warehouse home and not yet ready to install any new amp. I have a Pioneer 509 hooked up to the MCM 1900 and can hear some of my favorite music, "Tocatta and Fuge in D minor" by Vanessa Mae and "Techno remix of Chinese National Anthem," by Leon Lai and of course the boogie woogie strains of the incomparable Albert Amons. So I am gonna wait while these new top line av amps settle down a bit and the prices can do nothing but get cheaper. Will be seeing all you fine folks on this forum and reading your posts. Thanks Bill Marsh Atlanta GA