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I need to buy some rack rails to put my equipment in the side of a closet. Room limitations and a "pump diaphragm" for my well dictate that the rails can not be the better part of floor to ceiling. I have about 4 feet to work with. More then enough room for my current equipment, but I don't know exactly what size rails to buy. I have heard 3 holes in the rack rail = one "Space". Is this correct? Anybody got a good rule of thumb for what a space is AND what that height actually is? I want to be able to calculate spaces I currently need as well as have a few for future growth. Do people typically stack the bottom edge of one piece of equipment on the top of another or do you leave space/half space between components? I have seen shelves for non-rack mount equipment as well as fan inserts and other nice rack stuff, but have not seen any sort of "spacer or face plate" designed to simply block off extra space if the rails are a bit taller then the stacked equipment. Anybody know of such a thing? Thanks, Rich

Hey, thanks for the infojust the sort of thing I was looking for. I am intrigued by the posts I see about creating your own centers, or any speaker for that matter. I have never taken apart a speaker, but am pretty handy, how tough is it? Got any good starter information for somebody wanting to tackle this sort of project? On the surface it looks like you just construct a box to fit your needs and cut the right holes for the various drivers, then stuff the factory parts back in your custom box. I am sure there is a lot more to it. Surely there must be some acoustics and physics involved. I think I would like to eventually get some sort of center placement both above and below my 92 inch screen. Does that in turn mean two speakers or do people typically separate out the highs/mids/lows and effectively end up with one speaker spread over a large area? I am probably not explaining this right, but my limited knowledge tells me that if the center signal is one channel there are issues with two speakers if run in either parallel or series. Obviously someone has cracked this nutdo tell how. Thanks, Rich

That really is a slick setup. All the better that it was cheap and easy. Anybody have any thoughts on how to pull something similar to that off if you don't have access from above? I don't have the ability to go into the attic and drop them down from above because right above my HT (HT is in basement) is my 1st. floor foyer...don't think my wife would be keen on my cutting large holes there to drop them in. I was looking into how I might do it last night. The joists run the right direction to put the speaker between them (16" centers parallel to projection screen) and deep enough to house the speaker in the cavity between joists and below flooring above. The problem I see is that the speaker would have to be mounted before the drywall was put up. In turn the drywall would have to be cut and finished to fit sort of like you do with the installation of a recessed light except the speaker would be hanging down past the drywall. Not impossible, but messy and potential for damage would be there. Also this would make for a more permanent installation with little future access. I was kicking around the idea of some sort of larger face plate if that makes sense. Maybe 6 inches wider then the speakers and spanning an additional joist in front and back. You would install the drywall to the ceiling except in the area of this "face plate" when finished with construction mount the speaker, then put the face plate over the speaker to cover the larger hole having just the speaker pop through. A lot more work, but hopefully the same result. Any other ideas out there on how to pull this off? What are the thoughts on getting MDF or other material to match up nicely with the drywall?

Who has the lowdown on Heresys? I figure since they have been around so long they must all be good. But like so many things I am betting there are some really killer years that the true people in the know search out. You know, like a 1967 427 Corvette a true classic. Obviously some of this is subjective I am sure there are those who like the original Heresys over the H IIs or some other incarnation. I did love the look of those older ones that recently sold on ebay with the original old style boxes and vintage logo on the grill. I remember hearing a pair in a frat house in the mid 80s that must have been 10 years old chronologically and about 50 in abuse yearsbut they sounded incredible. After seeing the posts yesterday with Heresy hanging down from the ceiling and killer all Heritage HT with Heresys on the rear and side I am rethinking my desire for Chorus, Forte II, Chorus up front and Forte IIs in the rear. Why are Heresys so darn plentiful on ebay? Is it because they are a great speaker with a relatively decent size so everybody buys them. If that is true then why do so many get resold. Anybody have Forte IIs in the front with Heresy center and rear and care to comment on that? What about Heresys for sides in a 7.1 setup. How about 7 Hs with a sub? So what is the deal are the newer ones goodbut not as good? Are there any that should be avoided at all costs? Of course I understand that ultimately all that matters is if you, the listener like them or not. Just trying to get some insight on the line as a whole.

I am north of Baltimore in Harford County. Moved to the area recently. Rough location is 1 and 136, if you know the area. I am currently building out my basement for HT, would love to get together and pick the brains of fellow Klipsch lovers. Currently have Forte IIs, Academy, SS-1, a set of bookshelfs (the model escapes me now) and a SW-12. Thanks for the interest, Rich

I see you are in NJ. I am in the Baltimore area. Any chance you can meet me part of the way down on I-95? Do you have the ability to send some pix of the speakers? Thanks, Rich

For years I had my Forte IIs in a wall to wall floor to ceiling custom build cabinet. The bottom height of the unit was based on the Forte. To be clearer, imagine a built in book shelf where the bottom row was about 6 inches higher then a Forte. My TV was centered on the next row and my Academy was on its own shelf above. Finally each Forte had a vertical partition again about 6 inches wider then the speaker on each side. That left a big hole for CDs/Laser Discs below the TV and between the two speakers. The speakers had about a foot behind them to the back of the cabinet. In summary each Forte was in a big box that was 6 inches wider on each side and the top with about a foot of space behind it. It sounded pretty darn good but the base was a bit muddy. I cut almost the entire back of the cabinets behind the speakers except maybe 8 inches on the side/top so when you looked at it from the front or any angle it appeared like that speakers had a full wall of wood behind them, but in fact the air/sound could move easier (at least that is what I convinced my self in my mind, nothing scientific). The large area below the TV and between the speakers was also open to the wall behind the cabinet and I moved all the junk out of there. This sounded great. I think the passive woofer in the back worked better with a little space to breath. I actually think it sounded better then F II's simply a few inches off of a wall totally open.

I am looking to buy a pair of Chorus Is or IIs and a single Forte II (a pair of F II's is not out of the question). I currently have Forte II's in oak so my first choice for the Chorus and would be oak, walnut is great as well. The Forte will be hidden in a cabinet so finish does not matter and scratches are ok as long as they are sonically in good shape. Chours' need to be in pretty decent shape as they will be visible. I live in the Baltimore area so D.C., Philly, NJ, etc. would be ideal. Let me know if you can help, Rich

Thanks for the reply. Do you have your Forte center on it's side or upright? Thanks again, Rich

Hi just stumbled upon this place. Looks like a lot of good info. I am a long time Klipsch owner. I am currently in the process of finishing off a portion of my basement as a dedicated theater. The finished size will be about 13 X 16. I have a pair of Forte IIs and a SW 12. So I am looking to outfit the rest of a 7.1 system. I could steal my Academy from my other system however I am thinking of going with Chorus and a single Forte up front and my Forte IIs in the back with the SW-12 Questions. First any one have a similar set up and care to comment on it? Next since I already have Forte IIs is there any real issue with CI vs IIs? I have read several posts and it looks like in general given the option people would lean toward the IIs because of the base, but I will the SW-12 so base is not a problem. I have not been able to find any conclusive posts that state C I/IIs are really all that different. I do conclude that both are well liked. Finally I dont know much at all about side speakers or what I should be looking for, any thought there? Power for the front/rear will be 2 Carver-TFM 25s with a Carver TFM 15 for the center. I dont have a tuner/preamp as of yet other then my Carver CT-17 which is Dolby Pro logic. I would be interested in any and all thoughts to pull it together. Kicking around the idea of a Sunfire Theater Grand IV.