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the only speakers i've bought from a store were rf3's a few years ago. i purchased them at j&r music world for $500 and paid in cash so they waived tax for me. they also threw in some free speaker wire.
the rest of my speaker/equipment purchases have been from online (used).
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----------------On 6/25/2005 6:59:16 AM jbsl wrote:
How are the speakers aimed at you? In a small room you can have them aimed almost straight forward and then sit at the back of the room. Did you try the risers or did this caulk mod first? Try the riser and facing the speakers straight forward. My risers bring my LS up to 41 and 1/4 inches and it helped alot. Now I want to take 2 foot by 2 foot plywood (1/2 or 3/4 inch) and glue them together to make 1 1/2 or 2 1/2 inch risers I can slide under the LS. This way I can raise the LS up to the height of the KHorns if need be. I think 46-48 inches in my room would be about right. In your room raise the speaker to at least 42-44 inches with the risers.People on the forum hear about how great La Scalas, Khorns, Cornwalls sound but do not realize how many different things affect the sound. Room size, what you have in the room(carpet, hardwood floors, drapes, ruggs, etc), components(if you upgrade to these speakers there is a good chance you will need to upgrade one or more of your components), quality of the recording and others. Tofu your going thru what I went thru the first 6 months I had my speakers along with many other forum members have also so hang in there. How much space between the speakers is there?Xman----------------the speakers are angled in toward my listening position which is in the center of the room against the back wall. i put my lsitening chair as far back as possible.
i have my speakers raised about 3 inches (four 3/4 plywoods underneath each speaker. i didnt have time to build something like yours yet.) the risers shouldn't make a difference in my listening tests because i tried using my computer chair (which can adjust really low) to level my ears with the tweeters. i know how it will sound when i comfortably sit in a normal chair with risers. there's a difference, it's just not mind blowing.
my floors are carpet. other than that theres nothing to absorb reflections. i would like to have my turntable and networks purchased before i implement some kind of room treatments, unless they can be done for ~$100 and not look like a total eye sore.
as for my speaker positioning, i have them as close to the walls as possible (without touching the wall) there is about 2-3 inches of space between the corners of my speakers and the walls (i have the speakers angled in). when i have the speakers aiming straight forward they sound rather.. lacking. this is how i had them configured when i first got them, and needless to say i was extremely dissapointed.
i would think the need for angling speakers would only apply to small rooms, not large rooms, but you claim the opposite.
more confusion...
edit: for those of you who aren't sure what speaker i'm talking about, it is the la scala, not the k-horn.
edit2: could it be possible that i have these toe'd in too much? i have them pretty much aiming directly at my ears.
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----------------On 6/24/2005 10:01:43 PM Dylanl wrote:I noticed a huge difference. My room does however seem reflect HF pretty bad.Craig you also have a tine ear.
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can't be worse than mine..
11x11 room with no absorbtion material aside from the carpet floor
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that rope caulk can get a bit pricey. $7 per 90 foot box! it took a little over 4 boxes to do both horns (so i bought 5)
i only covered them once. i didnt feel like spending another $35 when i could've almost bought the plastic horns for that much.
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well, i notice no difference. perhaps if there is one, it is extremely subtle. i know i did a good job putting the rope caulk on, because it took me a long time. i made sure it had full contact with the horn.
but in the end i do have that warm and tingly feeling that i "upgraded" or "modified" my speaker. i guess that makes up for the $35 hole
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don't they also have horse and squid flavored iced cream?
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----------------On 6/22/2005 5:47:19 PM Cornwalled wrote:Hello,To answer your question, I was listening at a comfortable level, not very loud at all. It sounds like I need a K-55-V, as the M and AA network just aren't designed for each other. I might be willing to take one of the Corns apart to try it out and see what I think.If that solves the problem, is there any market value for a K-55-M? I'm sure someone would want it as a replacement.-Jon----------------
i'm using a metal horn, k55-m, and one of the worst networks for the la scalas (non updated AL). my source sucks (pc av-710 soundcard) and my amp isn't exactly the best either (mc250). i'm using radioshack interconnects and generic 14 guage speaker wire.
the sound coming from my scalas is no where near as bad as you are describing. there must be something terribly wrong with one of your components. are you sure everything is hooked up correctly?
as for the pencil markings, i have some of those too under the cabinet when i remove the access panel to the dog house. i'm pretty sure my scalas are legit though, as they have the certificate stickers on the back.
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would placing some kind of treatment behind the listening position (such as auralex foams) help?
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----------------On 6/22/2005 2:29:23 PM psg wrote:They sound really good at lower volumes if you listen to music appropriate to those volumes (e.g. trio jazz; nothing with a drum).----------------
i have to agree with you here. i find that songs that have bass as a main entity don't sound as good at lower volumes. need to feel that kind of music to enjoy it.
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yes it does, but to do that i'd have to use the 5.1 setting. the problem with that is, kernel streaming no longer works that way, and i'll need some kind of plugin for foobar to configure the lfe since these drivers don't seem to have any bass management options.
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----------------On 6/20/2005 7:27:50 PM LarryC wrote:Tofu,How did you get those square brackets (and everything else) to show up in that sample line in your post? All I see when I hit "Quote" are a bunch of codes like amp;#61 that aren't in my HTML book and don't show up like they do in YOUR post! Thanks,Larry----------------
those are unicode values. also a great way to get around censors in various forums
you could either memorize the value for each character (bad idea)
or use some kind of converter (much more efficient).
test
-tofu
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well, i'm not exactly sure what kind of amp i'm using. i took it off an old subwoofer a while back and it doesnt really have any markings. i used it for my shiva and made an enclosure as per adire's specifications. it's doing okay, and that's probably due to my room only being 11x11.
i'm using the high level inputs now. i'm not sure if i'm missing any details or if i'm convincing myself that i am. it's not dramatic enough to tell without switching between configurations a lot which is not something that is easy to do (especially without spades..heh)
i think i'll leave it this way for a while until i feel the need to experiment with it more
edit: in the back of my mind i keep thinking that channel seperation is not the same.. the sound doesnt seem as enveloping. but then again, i think this could just be my mind telling me that sound quality HAD to take a hit in some way.
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that k-horn has been up for a while. is that a wooden horn?
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----------------On 6/20/2005 7:01:11 PM Clipped and Shorn wrote:c&s----------------
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700 cd's ripped in a lossless format on a 400 gig hdd? going to be a tight squeeze.
the average lossless cd is ~500mb in my experience
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----------------On 6/20/2005 12:39:59 PM D-MAN wrote:This is all I could find on it.DM----------------
hmm.. i wonder if flush mounting the tweeter and mid horn make that much of an audible difference.
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im pretty sure he meant 2 feet
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but you seem to be under the impression that the sub's amp powers the speakers when you use the speaker level inputs/outputs. it doesn't. the sub's amp only powers the subwoofer. the speakers are still powered by your main amplifier.----------------
no no.. i know the sub's amp wouldnt be powering the speakers, i just assumed the sub's amp's low quality filtering methods would ruin my sound quality.
wouldnt it be kind of like sending my signal through a really cheaply built crossover? that can't be good for sq
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alternatively, you could use greater and less than signs "<" ">" in place of the brackets. i think the board auto converts them to the brackets automatically.
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----------------On 6/20/2005 2:10:59 AM Erukian wrote:If you don't feel comfortable using the high-level inputs, then do this.Take your main stereo amp, have the 1/8"/RCA y adapter go to your main amp. BIWIRE the amp to your speakers and then to your high-level inputs on the sub. That way your sub can do bass from both channels, the sub doesnt pollute the mains, and the mains get their own happy signal straight from the amp.That really is the cleanest signal path I can think of w/ your setup. Oh, and use NCH Tone Generator, turn off your sub, and use a rat-shack meter or your ears and see where your mains start to fall off in your room. Then set the sub's xover to there. Mine's at 50, the bass isnt boomy but it's really tight and natural when it doesnt majorly overlap on the mains.-Joe----------------
i can run two wires from my amp to the sub and speakers without ruining anything? that would be PERFECT. i was wondering if i could do this, but i figured i might fry the amp or something. thank you very much.
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well i have a temporary solution until i decide to purchase the icbm.
my soundcard seems to output sound to both the wolfson (better dac which is on the rear channels) and the lesser dac (front channels) while in two channel mode.
i'm going to have the better dac connect to the amp, and i'll buy a 3.5mm to mono adapter to connect the lesser to the sub. granted, i can't have my mains roll off at a set frequency this way, but it'll have to do for now.
i'll eventually need the icbm because the kind of pre-amp i will purchase probably won't have a sub out.
edit: http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=274-330 <-- this should do the trick
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wouldnt using the high level inputs/outputs degrade sound quality A LOT? i don't exactly have a high quality amp for my sub, so i'm sure they cut corners in areas like that.
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there isnt a cheaper way to do this? that $250 can go toward a turntable...
i don't exactly need an array of controls. i just want to get a mono signal into my sub without audibly degrading sq
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as of now, i have my setup like this:
now, it seems logical that the way i have this set up, my sub would only reproduce bass from the right channel. this is obviously not desirable.
i'm not sure how i'd go about sending a mono signal to my sub without using a whole bunch of splitters and ultimately degrading sound quality a lot.
my sub has speaker wire inputs/outputs, but i'm guessing using that method, unless it's a high quality sub amp (which it is not), would degrade the quality even further than if i was to use a bunch of rca splitters.
the only thing i can think of is getting a pre-amp with a sub output, but that's not exactly affordable at the moment.
any advice?
thanks in advance
-chris
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maybe he really doesnt hear a difference. placebo can go a long way.