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  1. Gone? Let me know if you still have them.
  2. Have 2 pair of Kg-4's (stacked/inverted) which I had been running off of my Nakamichi AV10 (120 wpc, putting out +/-20 A). They sounded good, but similar to the Dennon's and Onkyo's, the Naks' (non-Stasis) tend to have a colored sound (that distinctive Japaneese "brightness") when pushed. Recently, I upgraded the crossovers and now drive them with a Harman Kardon HK870 and a PM650, w/ Nak as a preamp only. What a difference! Bass tight & punchier; not as colored, and the mids/highs are ssoooo much smoother! The HK870 is clearly overkill for the Kg-4's, however, I would hightly recommend going with something like the HK730/930. That being said, I just bought a Scott LK-72B integrated tube amp which is on its way to Craig for overhaul and upgrades. I understand that the 4's sound magical with 30 to 40 clean tube watts, but I'll have to defer to one of these guys since I have not first hand knowledge. What I can tell you is that I just hooked up a pair of old Kg-2's to a 160 watt Sonic Frontiers tube power amp which came today for my a/d/s L1590's, and my jaw just hit the floor! So you may want to skip the HK's and go straight for the tubes! But, I can say that because I'm not married.....
  3. tried 2 different carped room of varying size (bedroom and living room). Given that fatigue has occured (15-yrs. ago and currently using different Kg-4s and varying types of SS, I am comfortable with the assumption that my sensitivity is resulting from the speakers. I do understand that Tubes help, and am working on trying to find reasonably priced tube solution. I am not audiophile, but I have done fair amount of research and understand that many out there who love the Klipsch but find have fatigue problems have found greatest success through replacement of eletronics (crossovers) or by installing bi-amping modification, leading to greater flexability regarding high frequency adjustments.
  4. Nak AV-10 is "decent" but SS. Any suggestions as to short-list of reasonably priced used tubes to go after while undertaking the modification project? Possibly one that is ultra layed-back, and has enough power/current to drive 2 pair of Kg-4's, hard?
  5. Nak AV-10 is "decent" but SS. Any suggestions as to short-list of reasonably priced used tubes to go after while undertaking the modification project? Possibly one that is ultra layed-back, and has enough power/current to drive 2 pair of Kg-4's, hard? Thanks
  6. Thread below directed to anyone with experience regarding modification to Kg-4 and/or very similar horn designs - not relating to amplifier compatability Background / Problem (involved but necessary): 1990 - After hearing a friends 1984 Kg-4s, (kind of like first time I ever saw a "true redhead" naked!...but that's another story) I fell in love with, and immediatly purchased several pair, new for $550/ pair for myself and a few friends. Paired mine, as did buddies, with typical mid-fi (Onkyo 105 w./ch. SS amp and Nak tape deck) and loooved them! Problem began when I converted over to CD. A certain mild, and unexplainable discomfort which I had experienced only occasionally with tape set up (fatigue), immediatly became pronounced and frequent. No one else seemed to experience it, so I figured it was a temporary issue, and since I loved the way they sounded (punchy, clear, loud etc.), I just sucked it up. Although not unbearable, discomfort lead me to trade in the Kg-4s for the newly released Forte II's. Since the IIs were i) "new and improved," ii) 3-way, and iii) a big brother to the Kg4s, I figured not only would my "unexplanable discomfort" go away, but I would also have even more of what I love about the Kg 4s due to larger drivers/larger cabinet. WRONG! I tried everything,from EQ's to different SS amps, but the ear fatigue was simply unbearable with the Fortes. (subsequently, found heritages, quartets, cornwalls etc. to have similar, but varying results.) Frustrated, by blank stares from Klipsch salesmen, and unable to find any other speakers (in my price range) that excited me, I sold my entire system due to lack of use, but have held a fondness for Klipsch/Kg-4s ever since. 1995 - Experienced similar problem a few years later when I bought used car w/existing, top of line, $3,500 aftermarket Nakamichi/Alpine system including Nak Tape, Alpine CD, Nak separates/x-overs in front and back, all driven by Alpine pre & Alpine power 4 x 35w/ch power. Clean and very loud but vocal hissing & excessive brightness lead to horrable fatigue similar to Forte IIs, worse than kg 4s. After being told that Jap. speakers are notoriously bright and due my prior fatigue issues w/ Klipsch, I kept scrapped everything but the Nak TD ($750), Alpine CD ($450) and Alpine pre-amp ($400), replacing i) Nak speakers with power hungry a/d/s speakers <(325i's in front and 325i's & SB-12 sub + sub x-over in rear) (2 x $550) + $600 = $1,700)> ii) Alpine power with a/d/s <(6 x 80w/ch a/d/s power amps, bridged) (2 x $1,500 = $3,000)>. Finally, with $6,300 (total value - excluding $500 installation/tweeking), I had a cut up car and an audio system with similar performance to my Kg 4s, Onkyo integrated and Nak Tape ($550 + $650 + $350 = $1,550). While the $6,300/car vs. $1,550/home, or 4x/1x is not apples/apples comparison, it does highlight the value proposition of a successful modification/s to the Klipsch Kg 4. Current Request for Solution: 2005 - After recently having an AV-Receiver (Nakamachi AV-10 (5 x 100w, or 2 x 120w)] dropped in my lap, I spent a few weeks on a speaker crusade. A lot has changes since those days! The modern Klipsch lines are not for me "not up for debate!" (gigantic Hornes notwithstanding) and yet again, I was not impressed with anything below $1,500, excluding the expensive mono's which would be required to drive them "WELL." Supprisingly, came upon a pair of Kg-4's in a local audio store. Incredible! As soon as he fired up the Kg-4's, they made me smile just as they did over 15-yrs. ago! Since they were mint, I did not care one bit about paying $400, (or 75% of retail!) for 15-yr. old, used speakers. As soon as I got home I hooked them up to the AV-10 (not a bad unit) and they sounded great with only the tuner! The problem is that as soon as I added a CD player and cranked them, the ear fatigue kicked in within 45 minutes! I'm not yet ready to give up on the Kg-4's. The next day, I had someone find me 2 additiona pair of Kg-4 on the internet to use as subjects for modifications. I am not an audiophile, nor an engeener, but I understand that there are more than a few guys out there who have experience with Kg-4 and/or horn technology modifications (crossovers, rewiring, cabinet work etc.). I even understand that there are a few solutions available. Not looking to engage in discourse on greater philosophy of optimal audio speaker designe, but looking for practical input. Any well informed or constructive suggestions regarding existing soluitons and/or an appropriate starting point for the Kg-4 would be greatly appreciated. I will have limited access to PC over next 2 weeks, however, I will follow up when able.
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