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Definetly don't limit yourself to purchasing from BB either...sure,
"So all that to say, when you start
implementing different volume levels and different EQ's on each speaker
you end up changing the timbre of each speaker such that it becomes
much more difficult to ignore the distortions. (overlapping dots on the
window if you will). What this means in our playback systems is that
our LR mains should have all identical settings and EQ - symmetrical
placement in the room and all that shnazz."
" I'm not explaining it very
well, but the conclusion is don't use EQ to try and fix the time
response of the system."
So you are saying that if I get something with an auto cal. mic it could
actually make the system sound worse, is that right? I will wait on a receiver
for now since I am also moving it all into my room and want to see how that will
sound. I am still wondering is there is any easy way of adjusting my center
equalizer to match my mains? I am also wondering is there is anything I can do about
the time response? Let's understand that I am not a die-hard audiophile but I
want my stuff to sound good and I am willing to put a little effort into it,
but not many hours and lot's of money for a minimal gain. I will have some
possible set-ups loaded in a few minutes.
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Hmmm..... Let me say a couple of
things first, well actually, i suppose third counting by posts.
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I am a college student mooching off of mom living at home for
know, basically "poor"
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I don't have the equipment, knowledge, budget or
probably the dedication to do significant room adjustments
I have never done any room adjustments so i don't know what to
look for or measure or change in that case. Correct me if i am wrong
but just pulling the speakers out of the box and hooking them up and
setting the speaker level won't do it. Shouldn't i have an equalizer
for each channel so the speakers match. My test tones definitely do
not match. I was hoping an easy fix to this would be an auto cal. mic
instead of spending hours w/ an spl meter and test cd among other
things trying to tune it all by ear.
Let me get you
up to date on the room situation and give a little insight into my
life. It will be in a 14X12 room w/ a sheet rock ceiling and walls, a
small window, carpet, an open walk in closet and a recessed desk . My mom is getting married in a month and my HT is going to
be moved into my room, the 14X12 room. I have to live in this room
for most likely one more year before i go to a different college.
I have to sleep and do my HW in this room. I need it to be
functional, i want it to look good and sound good. I haven't decided
where to put all my stuff, well, any of it, but if anyone wants, i
could make the room in cad or photoshop and put it in this post so
you guys can knock yourselves out with suggested layouts.
First, i want to thank you if you actually read all of that. Now you
know my situation. I am looking for the ability to close my eyes and
feel like i am at the concert; maybe that will happen when i move the
speakers anyway because currently the right side of the system is
against a wall and the left is open for about 15 more feet, basically, it
is on the end of a rectangular room. I am completely open to speaker,
bed, etc.. layout suggestions, just ask me to draw up the room. I
would still like to get the pioneer 816 because of my current
equalizer situation but maybe i should wait on that.
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I was just about to post a new comment when firefox froze, so i will try this again.
I bought an spl meter from radio shack but doesn't that only do speaker level? I am concerned with the equalizer. One reason is that the test tone on the center channel is very harsh in comparison to the rest of them. The yammie also only has an equalizer for the center channel. I am assuming that the pioneer will set the distance, level, and equalizer on each speaker. If there is a way i can do that w/o a new reciever that would be great but since the yammie only has a center EQ than i think i would have to buy a reciever with an EQ for each speaker. Which, again, i am assuming that the pioneer has.
IF all of this is true than the only thing i need to be concerned about is which reciever. I wanted to get one for 300 because i just don't see me benefiting from one more expensive. With a $300 price tag i am left with the pioneer vsx-816-k/s. I could also go with the yamaha 5960 "$500" for their intro. reciever w/ ypoa but i don't think i would benefit from that upgrade, but that is why i am on this forum in the first place. IF this is my only option, would the pioneer do great or would everything sound better with a more expensive reciever?
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I want to get a new reciever to replace my current yamaha htr-5840. The reason i want to do this is because i think my speakers should sound better. I have a synergy III set-up, i know, it's not reference series but i work and BB and don't get discounts on those. The reason i think they don't sound as good as they should is because i have heard how big of a difference an auto cal. mic can make. I don't want to spend alot of money and i don't see any reason to go with an expensive reciever because i don't need the HDMI in/out, multizone, component/HDMI upconvert etc... I also want to stick with the ones BB sells because, well, i get a discount. I really like my current yamaha but it just doesn't have the options I want to cal. my system. Unfortunately the yamaha recievers w/ auto cal. start at 500 i believe. I was thinking of getting the pioneer vsx-816k. It has all the inputs/outputs i need, power i need and their mcacc auto cal. mic.
I was told that the pioneer mcacc doesn't do as good of job as the ypoa, if this i true i would lvoe to know. Also, since the pioneer is rated at .01 distortion it won't sound as good as the yamaha because the yamaha is rated at .07. Any advice on this would be great too.
Basically, i don't want to spend alot, the only reason i want to change recievers is because of the auto cal. feature. If there is a way i can do this w/o getting a new reciever i would love to know. Currently i figure i should just get the pioneer, but i am on this forum because all of you know way more than i do so any advice on this situation on what reciever to buy or if i shouldn't buy one would be very appreciated.
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Has anybody used one of these before? I was wondering if they actually shook stuff, or if it is some gimmick. I have the sub-12 on a cement floor and i never get to feel the bass.
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I skipped around in this post a little bit so i hope no one has already talked about a guitarist i think is just amazing. I can't give any opinion about hendrix and JP and van hallen since that was all before my time, but for the record i think Trace Bundy is one heck of a guitarist. Then again, i have only been playing for maybe a year and half, so this is just MHO.
I think he is really creative, for ex. adapt
Maybe i like this on the best though, just because he has 5 capos,
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Well, i calibrated everything. i believe i ahve my surround at -3db, my center at -4, and my mains at 0. Thanks agian for all the info, coming in and reading to all the audio advice reminds me what it sounds like being on the recieving end of information, as I sell computers, printers etc.. and usually am telling the info. I bought "Tears of the sun" tongiht so I am exited to see that. Maybe I am the only one, but i hate buying movies i have already watched, I also hate spending more than 10 bucks on a movie. It's being German, we are all really tight with our money, buying these speakers killed me and I wouldn't have w/o getting a good deal.
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Thanks for the info mike. If my speakers,
b-3, c-2, s-2, sub-12 can't go to 105db, then what. Do i just set the volume to 00 then run the test tones and adjust everything to xxdb?
I am slo wondering how much past the db's a speaker can handle you can go before damaging the speakers.
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Is it really necessary to brag about a discount? I know I felt awesome about a new 06' bike i bought for 600, but I felt like crap and regretted the purchase after my friend told me he got it for about 370. The discount is awesome, but it is against Best Buy policy to disclose the price employees pay.
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I personnaly like my subwoofer to blend in with the rest of the system. I have the sub-12 at 1/4 gain and bass at -2db. I think I will set my reciever to 00 at then set all the speakers to 85db. I use the testones to do this right? I also point the spl meter stright up at the ceiling, where is would be sitting at ear lever?
I am also wondering about these cds i have heard so much about, like avia, how basiclally everyone has one kind or another and uses it for just about every kind of tweak. Where can i get one, and what do they really do? Is it just a cd with some sound fx and whatnot,or am I missing the idea completely?
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I finally went down to the rat shack and bought their analog sound level meter. Now i am just not sure what to do with it. I know to play my test tones on my reciever and make them all the same level, right? or is ther more i can do with it? Anyway, i am just wondering how many dbs i want the test tones to be and what the heck is A and C weighing. I sure hope this makes a difference because I hate spending money, it runs in the bllod, German.
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the only corner i could try would be behind the coach, and i have heard the behind you isn't the ideal position. The questions is not having enough bass necessarily, i just wanted to know if it would sound different on wood. Someday i will build a home and have a dedicated HT room. Maybe even, depending upon where i am working some cool hydraulics so the speakers rise and lower. Oh the possibilities.
Maybe i am wrong, would right behind the couch work?
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So, the bass sounds better on cement than wood. The only disadvantage is that on cement you can't feel it.
right?
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The room was definately not designed for a HT, so i assume i am loosing alot of sound to the open side of the room but if i move the subwoofer to the other side of the tv then it just shakes the glass really bad. I resized the pictures so you don't have to scroll for a few mintues to see the whole thing
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Well, hopefully these pictures show up. This should give you an idea of
the room, and hopefully you guys can help me out, and hopefully I don't
have to do anything to radical. Don't laugh to much at the tv and
whatnot, i care much more about the sound and I move off to college in
a year so then i will get a good HD, widescreen tv.
here is one picture
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Well, i hope this is not already posted
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I have my whole setup downstairs on cement flooring w/ carpet. I want to listen to it upstairs to see how the difference from wood to cement effects it. My reciever is in a position where is would not be fun to take and set upstairs. I am satisfied with everything except i want to feel the sub and I can't. Maybe someone could just tell me how big of a difference it would be, rock solid concrete to the 2nd level wood floor of the house.
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scp You said that you watch the woofer. Having a down firing woofer kinda makes it hard, unless i stick my hand under the subwoofer and feel it or tilt the subwoofer on it side. How much should it move anyway?
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I have the synergy sub-12.
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Is ther anyway of safeguarding. I know you can put inline fuses in the speaker wire, is there anything like that for subs. Then again, maybe iam just paranoid. I just get a little worried when the walls creek all around me durring an explosion. I have never had a HT before so i don't really know what kind of performance to expect from a 650-max watt sub.
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I keep my reciever under 0, which i have been adivced to do so i don't cause any clipping. So aslong as I keep it 0 or under, do you think i would ever damage it?
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I have a quick question about damaging subwoofers. I just have it wired straight into the sub port on the back of my reciever. I have the gain set a little below half. The crossover is set at 80Hz and i don't have the bass turned up on the reciever. . With music and some movies the bass gets really loud, i just want to know if i need to worry about turnign it too loud and damaging it. How prone are they to damge, and how do you know if it is too much for the sub to handle.
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I have my house set up on a netowrk with 1 computer upstairs running windows with all my music on it. I have another computer in a cabnet downstairs hooked up to my tv and reciever running linux. I basically use it as a music server. Some of the songs i listen to are really loud at -10 volume, others are not nearly as loud at -10. It is the same deal wth dvds and wahtnot. Is there anything i can do so it will all be a little more even and I don't have to adjust the volume so much when going from song to song.
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hmm..... I see on the web site that the c-3 and s-3 are recomended. On a brochure that i picked up by klipsch from BB it recomended the c-2 and s-2.
what reciever to buy?
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I would lieke to EQ my center to match my mains but i am not sure how. I know how to get to the EQ but adjusting the EQ and getting it to match the mains is a shot in the dark for me.