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Thank for the help. I am going to go with the Klipsch and post some photos when I get them. Now I just need to decide if I want Cabernet or Espresso.

For those speakers I wouldn'y worry too much about speaker wire gauge. 16 AWG will be just fine as long s your aren't making any really long runs. IMO, banana plugs are a good idea because it makes it easier to plug the wires into the binding posts on the back of the AVR. It will also make sure you don't have stray strands short circuiting your ssytem. 1 RCA from the pre-out of the AVR to the "LFE in", it is the white one, on the sub sub is fine. Then turn up the crossover dial ll the way, probably maxes out at aroun 160hz, then run the audessy mic on the AVR, then go throught he manual speaker settings on the AVR and fine-tune the system if needed.

I actually have the same receiver. I have a PS3 hooked up to it which decodes everything and sends it out PCM so I still get all of the new surround formats. Most blu-ray players have an option to either send out bitstream re-encoded, bitstream w/ the new audio formats, or uncompressed PCM.

The Klipsch are far out of the prie range of anything def tech makes. The top of the line def tech speakers are there BP7000 super towers, which are about 6,000 a pair. Companies like Martin Logan, Snell, and Vienna Acoustics have products that could gp toe-to-toe with the Klipsch Palladium (however it is spelled). Stereophile did a full review of the Klipsch and gave it high rankings. As for the Icon V series, audioholics did a review on them and gave them decent rankings. I have been able to setup a number of them and for movies and music they are great, for music I might look to step into a different series. Still, everyone starts somewhere and works there way up overtime and they hear more speakers and figure out what they like. I think the V series is great for people who want big sound and efficient speakers without spending too much.

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I can see (hear) what you are saying abot a blanket over them when compared to the Klipsch. Do you think the icon W series is a litle more mellow than the reference series because of th new horn design?

I joined this forum in 2007, when I bought my first surround sound. It was a Klipsch Synergy system, and I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. But, then I broadened my horizons and listened to some Definitive Technology speakers. I really liked the more mellow sound of them, as the Klipsch had given my ears some fatigue at higher volumes. So, I purchased some BP7006's (which I still think are great speakers...eventhough that may be blasphemy on these forums). Now, I am ready to upgrade again and have my eye on two different systems. I need some direction from the Klipsch experts to guide me here, because I can't audition the speakers. System 1) Definitive Technology. Mains: Mythos STS Center: Mythos 9 Surrounds: Mythos gem = 4,355.00 --This system has built in subs and a sound I know I like from my current speakers System 2) Klipsch. Mains:WF-35 Center: WC-34 Surrounds: WS-24 Sub: WX-500d x2 = 4,876 MSRP I think the klipsch look great, and I am sure the subs would blow the pants off of the def techs. But here is my bigg concern, the taditional Klipsch sound, the bump in the highs, doesn't go over too well with my ears; however, I listened to the WF-34's and they didn't sound harsh at all. I have heard the new horn is a little bit more mellow than the other series, like the reference, which are way too bright for me. So here I am, back at the first brand of speaker I started with wondering if it is time to go back, but I am not nearly as experienced as most of the people on this forum so I need a little advice here. Thanks!

I know monoprice is cheap, but in the cae of wall mounts, you get what you pay for. Take a look at some Sanus mounts, I have had much better experience with them than monoprice mounts. But, I have also never had a TV fall off the wall with any mount.

Great advice! Running CAT6 is the best way to futureproof a system. You could run CAT5e if you wanted, it will do just as good of a job. I would oder bulk CA5e/6 off of monoprice.com and then order some EZ RJ45 ends and the crimper to go with it. Running one HDMI is typically good enough because your receiver should transcaode any signals to HDMI, but two is safer. I would also run some RG6 a.k.a coax, it can be used as a subwoofer cable if you ever need it in the future. That is the one thing I never see people do properly, wire for multiple subwoofers/locations in a room. But, I am also a huge advocate for having 2-4 subs in a HT room. Good luck!

I was just in a Magnolia and listened to the def techs and Klipsch. I personally liked the sound of the def techs better and the sub built in was a nice perk with my space requirements. The Klipsch had the classic horn sound and I ended up pickup up the def techs. I was surprised that I liked the def techs because I have some Klipsch right now that I have liked alot. When I heard the RF-62's I thought they were pretty good, it was what I was used to, but when I heard the def techs liked them alot better. 2 different sounds.

Also, I have no idea if this is still running but I read that if you bought a 50" pioneer 1080p plasma from Magnolia you got a free Pioneer 50" 720p plasma. Not sure if it is still going on though.

There is truth to this. Most 1080p TVs do take the cheap route and double a 540 signal but good ones do not(p. 39 of Home Theater Magazine, November Issue). I also second the point about ignoring the contrast ratio, it isn't measured as a standard. The 1080p TV is going to look the same as a 720 if fed 720 but as soon as you hook them both up to 1080i/p then that 1080p will pull ahead because the 720 will still only be showing that much info but the 1080p will be showing much more. This is only a real issue on bigger TV's, though (Again, check out HT magazine). As far as buying a 60", I would go rear projection because you can get a really big TV for alot less and if you really want a flat panel go Plasma and 720p. If you get a good 720p TV, like a pioneer, you will be set. 1080p is cool and all, but it isn't the end all do all. The 720 sets still look great, just make sure to buy a good TV, check out deinterlacing and bandwidth tests. What is the point of paying extra for a 1080p set that doesn't even convert 1080i signals to 1080p correctly or doesn't get all the info to the screen.

I have the S-2 surround, currently, until i can get into reference. They are about 6' off the ground with 8' celiings in a 12x14 room, 3-4' behind my head and are ponited at me. Do I keep them pointed at me or mount them flush against the wall?

Build a system one piece at a time to get what you want. Surround sound is just the surround aspect of a Home Theater, the Home Theater includes the big TV or projector also. Go to your local Klipsch dealer and check out what they offer. Listen to the different speakers and see what you want. Also, the need to match the speakers to the size and shape of the room. Are you building a HT room or just assing some speakers to a finished room?

I hvae a lowr end Harmony and think it is great. That is a heck of a deal for the 880.

I forgot to add, if you are looking to spend around a grand for a reciever you may look at a pre/pro and amp set-up. It is not hard to find a good 2 channel amp for the mains and use the reciever for the rest of the speakers until you can afford more amps. If you go this route you can save money on a reciever by buying one that has good pre-outs and maybe less power. Rotel and Sunfire are two companies that make good amps, check Ebay.

As already posted, the incredibles has great separation, the Pod Racing in Episode I is phenominal in almost every aspect and Saving Private Ryan is great too. The part Ireally like about Saving Private Ryan is how Spielburg uses dynamics to draw in the viewer where Tom Hanks is momentarily deaf from explosions, good speakers make all the difference with these movies.

Maybe buy the Oppo w/o the SACD playback for DVD's and buy a 5 disc sony CD changer for CD's.

Good advice & let me add, if you like & enjoy your speakers you're likely to own them years longer than electronics so I would buy the best spks I could afford now & add better electronics when money allows. btw used electronics can be a great value. Used electronics can be great, check out harmanaudio.com. They carry refurb or cosmetically damaged HK gear for half price. The HTR-6090 is a great reciever; though, the HMDI upscaling, HDMI(480p) Up-conversion and YPAO are great features. BTW: The Yamaha would work great with either the Reference or Synergy, the Reference is not more 'delicate.' Also, I may be wrong, but Ithink all the reference stuff is made in the good old USA.

I own all Klipsch and have my center sitting right on top of my CRT TV and have not noticed any noise from it. I have no idea. Some of the others should chime in sometime that know much more than me.

You could blow you speakers if you crank it way too loud, stay below 0 on the volume as a general rule of thumb. The Quintents can take quite a beating for their size and I would not worry about harming them with the crossover set as it is. If you hear any distortion or see that the cones are moving alot then up the crossover or turn it down. I wouldn't worry; through, just don't get too ridiculously loud and enjoy your new system. BTW: The yammie is rated at 105 but that is a bloated rating.

the receiver works fine with the speakers and Iwould play around with the crossover and see what you like. IMHO I would recommend between 100 andHz 120Hz. By the way, how do you like the set-up?

They are definitately maxed out. If you buy a 720p TV now, and feed it anything in HD it is going to look as good as it can. If you have a 1080p TV and feed it a 720P signal, the TV has overhead room for a 1080i/p signl. 720p. For example, if you look at a 1080p and a 720p TV on 720 content you won't be able to tell a difference. But as soon as you switch to say a PS3 the 1080p TV will look better because it is capale of higher resolutions while the 720p will look the same because it was alrady feed the max signal it can take. As for TV's/ You can pickup a 56" JVC 1080p for 2,000or a 50" 720p sony for 1500. There used to be a big price difference, but recently they have come alot closer.

720p is great, but 1080p is better. 1 million pixels or 2 million. If I were to look all day long at a slew of 720 and 1080 resolution TV's that are fed 720, there will be no difference, sure. But as soon as an HD-DVD player or Blue Ray is attached, or even this new VMD competitor there is a difference given the TV is big enough. The problems I have with buying a 720 TV now is that 1) you already have the TV maxed out and 2) I want to use the TV as a computer monitor so 1080 is nice. Nowadays there is maybe a 300-500 dollar difference to step into a 1080 TV from a 720 in most cases so it isn't a ridiculous amount more. With all that said, I am still cheap and would buy the 720 and be happy with it.

I think it is only fair to test speakers as a system. It sounds like you have a really good ear. If you want speakers that have a smaller footprint but sound good I would chekout some Definitive Technology Bipolar Supertowers. These are great speakers because they are relatively small and the L/C/R speakers would all have a sub so nulls and peaks would be minimal. Unfortunately, they are about much less sensitive than a comprably priced Klipsch. If you like the Klipsch sound, though, then yes, you are going to need a subwoofer to hit the lows. Not all subwoofers have to be huge. Alot of companies make some 8" subs with 1 powered, 2 radiating drivers that might give you some more space and could be used in conjunction with, say, a Klipsch RF-62 system that would not overpower a 42" plasma.