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Thank for the help. I am going to go with the Klipsch and post some photos when I get them. Now I just need to decide if I want Cabernet or Espresso.

For those speakers I wouldn'y worry too much about speaker wire gauge. 16 AWG will be just fine as long s your aren't making any really long runs. IMO, banana plugs are a good idea because it makes it easier to plug the wires into the binding posts on the back of the AVR. It will also make sure you don't have stray strands short circuiting your ssytem. 1 RCA from the pre-out of the AVR to the "LFE in", it is the white one, on the sub sub is fine. Then turn up the crossover dial ll the way, probably maxes out at aroun 160hz, then run the audessy mic on the AVR, then go throught he manual speaker settings on the AVR and fine-tune the system if needed.

I actually have the same receiver. I have a PS3 hooked up to it which decodes everything and sends it out PCM so I still get all of the new surround formats. Most blu-ray players have an option to either send out bitstream re-encoded, bitstream w/ the new audio formats, or uncompressed PCM.

The Klipsch are far out of the prie range of anything def tech makes. The top of the line def tech speakers are there BP7000 super towers, which are about 6,000 a pair. Companies like Martin Logan, Snell, and Vienna Acoustics have products that could gp toe-to-toe with the Klipsch Palladium (however it is spelled). Stereophile did a full review of the Klipsch and gave it high rankings. As for the Icon V series, audioholics did a review on them and gave them decent rankings. I have been able to setup a number of them and for movies and music they are great, for music I might look to step into a different series. Still, everyone starts somewhere and works there way up overtime and they hear more speakers and figure out what they like. I think the V series is great for people who want big sound and efficient speakers without spending too much.

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I can see (hear) what you are saying abot a blanket over them when compared to the Klipsch. Do you think the icon W series is a litle more mellow than the reference series because of th new horn design?

I joined this forum in 2007, when I bought my first surround sound. It was a Klipsch Synergy system, and I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. But, then I broadened my horizons and listened to some Definitive Technology speakers. I really liked the more mellow sound of them, as the Klipsch had given my ears some fatigue at higher volumes. So, I purchased some BP7006's (which I still think are great speakers...eventhough that may be blasphemy on these forums). Now, I am ready to upgrade again and have my eye on two different systems. I need some direction from the Klipsch experts to guide me here, because I can't audition the speakers. System 1) Definitive Technology. Mains: Mythos STS Center: Mythos 9 Surrounds: Mythos gem = 4,355.00 --This system has built in subs and a sound I know I like from my current speakers System 2) Klipsch. Mains:WF-35 Center: WC-34 Surrounds: WS-24 Sub: WX-500d x2 = 4,876 MSRP I think the klipsch look great, and I am sure the subs would blow the pants off of the def techs. But here is my bigg concern, the taditional Klipsch sound, the bump in the highs, doesn't go over too well with my ears; however, I listened to the WF-34's and they didn't sound harsh at all. I have heard the new horn is a little bit more mellow than the other series, like the reference, which are way too bright for me. So here I am, back at the first brand of speaker I started with wondering if it is time to go back, but I am not nearly as experienced as most of the people on this forum so I need a little advice here. Thanks!

I know monoprice is cheap, but in the cae of wall mounts, you get what you pay for. Take a look at some Sanus mounts, I have had much better experience with them than monoprice mounts. But, I have also never had a TV fall off the wall with any mount.

Great advice! Running CAT6 is the best way to futureproof a system. You could run CAT5e if you wanted, it will do just as good of a job. I would oder bulk CA5e/6 off of monoprice.com and then order some EZ RJ45 ends and the crimper to go with it. Running one HDMI is typically good enough because your receiver should transcaode any signals to HDMI, but two is safer. I would also run some RG6 a.k.a coax, it can be used as a subwoofer cable if you ever need it in the future. That is the one thing I never see people do properly, wire for multiple subwoofers/locations in a room. But, I am also a huge advocate for having 2-4 subs in a HT room. Good luck!

I was just in a Magnolia and listened to the def techs and Klipsch. I personally liked the sound of the def techs better and the sub built in was a nice perk with my space requirements. The Klipsch had the classic horn sound and I ended up pickup up the def techs. I was surprised that I liked the def techs because I have some Klipsch right now that I have liked alot. When I heard the RF-62's I thought they were pretty good, it was what I was used to, but when I heard the def techs liked them alot better. 2 different sounds.

Also, I have no idea if this is still running but I read that if you bought a 50" pioneer 1080p plasma from Magnolia you got a free Pioneer 50" 720p plasma. Not sure if it is still going on though.

There is truth to this. Most 1080p TVs do take the cheap route and double a 540 signal but good ones do not(p. 39 of Home Theater Magazine, November Issue). I also second the point about ignoring the contrast ratio, it isn't measured as a standard. The 1080p TV is going to look the same as a 720 if fed 720 but as soon as you hook them both up to 1080i/p then that 1080p will pull ahead because the 720 will still only be showing that much info but the 1080p will be showing much more. This is only a real issue on bigger TV's, though (Again, check out HT magazine). As far as buying a 60", I would go rear projection because you can get a really big TV for alot less and if you really want a flat panel go Plasma and 720p. If you get a good 720p TV, like a pioneer, you will be set. 1080p is cool and all, but it isn't the end all do all. The 720 sets still look great, just make sure to buy a good TV, check out deinterlacing and bandwidth tests. What is the point of paying extra for a 1080p set that doesn't even convert 1080i signals to 1080p correctly or doesn't get all the info to the screen.

I have the S-2 surround, currently, until i can get into reference. They are about 6' off the ground with 8' celiings in a 12x14 room, 3-4' behind my head and are ponited at me. Do I keep them pointed at me or mount them flush against the wall?

Build a system one piece at a time to get what you want. Surround sound is just the surround aspect of a Home Theater, the Home Theater includes the big TV or projector also. Go to your local Klipsch dealer and check out what they offer. Listen to the different speakers and see what you want. Also, the need to match the speakers to the size and shape of the room. Are you building a HT room or just assing some speakers to a finished room?

I hvae a lowr end Harmony and think it is great. That is a heck of a deal for the 880.