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Two 10" woofers,and yes the sub is 15 years old.The potential buyer should like to see the condition of the sourrounds on the woofers.As foam,compressed or not dries with time and becomes more and more fragile(if it is not rubber).
Dual 10" similar config to REL larger sub.I doubt this sub is at the same level or close,the REL uses a creative loading and VOLT drivers.
Should be a fine music sub for a two channel system.Too often these days all you see is mindless displacement and huge drivers with huge peak to peak travel.
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HOLY CRAP!! This arguement is still bouncing off these four walls? I think we get the point.[:#]
Yes I know ,you know the old saying...When S hits the fan. [:$]
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Oldbuckster,
You can write all to TheEAR(me at home) who is TheWOOFER(me at work). Send all agression to both(ME).
Thank you.
PS Yes WalMart is full of great Made in P.R.C. products,it should be called ChinaMart [
]I cannot tell you how great they are because I did not set foot in a P.R.C. Mart in years. My bad
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Stacking subs that go down in "quality", however unnoticable it may be, is stupid (to some extent).
Dont waste your money and buy a dd-15 or dd-12,
Rather, save it up and buy another dd18 to either stack or put on the opposite side of the room as your present dd18.
Why compromise for looks or potential salivation of the viewer? A pyramid style subwoofer is only a result of an obssessive disorder in the brain, known as ear-a-tosis. It doesnt make any sense, sonically or economically. Any audiophile, with even the smallest bit of class will tell you the same.
When you have the coin, buy another dd18.
By the way - I love the dd-18 SBW, Congratulations.
AncientDudette,
Maybe I have no class,possible.Maybe I have a sickness,a fact. Who cares dude its my money and I like to spend it as I see fit.Do not be jealous.
Calm down Dudette
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China?? Isn't that where Denon is now manufactured??? It's just about sub woofers, right...............
Yes all the lower end Denons,I have had the 5800 series and the 4800 and they were and are made in JAPAN.Thank you very much. All upper class Pioneer are too,my DVAX10 and the flagship receiver is.I can go on and on,but my point is proven.
And your point was???? I meant nothing by that..........
My point is that ONLY lower to mid class gear(Denon,Yamaha you name it) is made in China.Any company that has any self respect left manufactures their top of the line gear at HOME.ALWAYS just to say in a quiet way our best is made with pride in the USA,not across the ocean.
This does in no way imply China has no quality brands and when they are made there they have to be inferior.
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CAS,
First you start and try to pass off victims of war crimes and injustice for bandits and TERRORISTS(read your own damn post again).And now you feel insulted because I called YOU an IGNORANT little man in light of what YOU posted!
You cannot take critics in this case I was harsh,your post deserved it. If you had any real facts you would know better.
Thank you from comming out in the open about Canada,I know who you are now.As bright as a rock in a dark cave. Just because I do not agree with CNN is no way says I diskile the USA,its a great country.It simply has a sewage news system.You because I irritated your little tiny person started to spit on a whole country,CANADA! WOW man,dude its like far out! Go buy a brain,even a discounted one at Brains R Us,trust be you do not need to be a rocket scientist to get that one.
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Congratulations,and welcome to the elite Velodyne subwoofer club,you just have in your hands one of the finest subwoofers made.And designed and manufactured in the USA. [
]Yes the beast looks gorgeous [
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Just because something is made in China does not require that it is of any lesser quality. And one instance of a cosmetic blemish is no indication of a widespread issue, nor is your so-called experience with the computer industry. My comment stemmed from the fact that you instantly blaim China and don't even stop to consider the huge number of other issues it could have been - all of which would have been much more likely and had nothing to do with China. I can't imagine anybody but a narrow-minded wannabe upperclass rich snob writing the way you do - sorry for making an observation. If I am mistaken then I am sorry.
And there is nothing wrong with a company making more money on a product. Surely you would want your employer to pay you more money for the work you do. The people overseas get paid very ransomly relative to their local economies AND the people back here in America get to make more money too. What? Would you prefer they charge more for the exact same product and pay lazy crappy union labor to have it built here? Give me a break.
As far as "DrWho" is concerned - it is a great old british sci-fi and a nickname I picked up from friends in the UK. Nice one.
Good the DOCTOR has answered the call.
There is NOTHING wrong with making the most money you can make,as long as your decisions do not lead your own country to economic ruin. Capitalism is the greatest thing in existance as long as it does not mutate to the cancer known as SAVAGE CAPITALISM.
Yes unions are legalised BURGLARS of our nations(USA and Canada),and I would ABOLISH the greedy union MAFIA. They kill jobs pretending to be at the service of the workers.Their demands are unrealistic and their leaders blind and deaf.Agreed 100%
I see you people act like nothing wrong is going on,you amuse me wildly.face the facts your country is losing jobs that may not come back so to speak for a LOOOONG time.And no do not dream all these people will find other jobs that will provide as well as those who they lost.
EDITED AWAY,too abrassive.
In closing I will tell you this,I will NEVER pay for a product made in a country where cheap slave like labour is used and pay close to the prices asked for a similar products manufactured here(US,Canada).NEVER
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I, as a business owner, would rather have my production facilities, labor and customer service located abroad. Cheaper in every aspect. I'm not in business to lose money. And I'm not in business to make other people happy. Just my customers.
Call me a Scrooge, but Americans are too worried about political correctness, excessive civil rights and labor unions, all of which cut my bottom line. Screw that.
And it is because people like you that YOUR mighty US of an A economy is sinking down faster than the TITANIC. Face the facts,look at the numbers..IMPORT VS EXPORT,you are a giant hulk on foam legs.Waiting to collapse because of the ME ME ME mentality of a midget and only ME greed.
Look at Japan,they think collectivly,and are a strong nation. Same with Germany,collective thinking first.Smart profit and not fastest blind profit.
Its ME ME ME and ME and MY profits regardless of what impact they will have on fellow country men and women.Good to see your limited view.Texas huh,all things in Texas are bigger...heah they are and fat people are so fat they die of obesity...A DISGRACE.
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iFi VS what? JBL Creature! [
]The iFi by a mile,in sound quality,product materials quality and design. The Creature can only please a creature that is deaf.
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gotta love snob idiocy...
Snob idiocy! Do you even have a clue?
These products made in China will be sold for the SAME amount as the previous products they replace.Not cheaper to YOU the cutomer.
The quality of these products is lesser,since the quality control is lacking(from the obious)scratches on the top control pod.In the case of the brand new(out of the carton)Klipsch sub I inspected.
I sold and assembled/configured more computers/servers you may ever see in your entire life.And the quality control of too many companies operating in China is very MISSING. Taiwan and above all Japan has a near flawless record.Products that are to be sold for a higher amount of money must have strict quality control. You call this snob idiocy! Find arguments not insults,Mr the self proclaimed DOCTOR.
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Also I sawand tested a few quite expensive Chinese speakers,looked gorgeous and performed sub par when compared to direct competition from european countries or american(US/Canada)speakers.
Plus these cost almost as much as products made here,I am not talking overpriced products made here but priced down to Earth.
Compared the JAS Audio Oscar speakers to the Dynaudio Contour S 3.4's,it was a mismatch,the JAS sounded muffled and lacking transparency.So when someone tells me they make it better and cheaper I say Bull S....t.These clowns say so because they have their pathetic business there and they pocket good money from junk sold here at almost the price of local goods.
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Soon America will be made in China at this rate,anyone who is not bothered by all this Made in NOT IN AMERICA stickers is taking too much anti depression medication.
I saw the quality scratches on the subs too,so this should bother the potential buyer.Quality control is obvious...in the pits.
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RT-12d should RETAIL for $1899 if memory serves me well.
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Just saw the RW10 and 12,identical to the first RW series save for the blue display on top and controls. I see these are made in China,the RW12 had a scratch out of the box on the display pod!
I was hoping RT series but they say July,I'll wait. I have a nice warm spor for the RT10 and 12 in the left fron corner now. [
]I hope the RT series are made in the USA.
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No matter how you look at it or listen to.Klipsch steamrolls B0$e in dynamics,timbre,linearity,low distortion and overall sound quality.Lets not even start with built quality and value.
Why start these B0$e VS Klipsch threads? Anyone with a brain,knows for a FACT Klipsch is a mile and a half better than B0$e.
It is like comparing a low end Sony receiver to a full Bryston system consisting of a pre/pro and three 9B SST power amps. [:$]
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Gentleman, keep it civil. Enough with the personal attacks or the forum administrator will be getting an e-mail [:@]
As to the Bryston amps, value is always subjective. I sell the Crown amps, the Behringer amps and the Bryston amps. All three have their subjective values and within the price range, do some pretty nice things. A Crown XTi 1000 is one hell of an amp for $699, but unhook it and put a Bryston 4BSST next to it and there is no question which is the superior product in performance run full range. Does that mean I won't sell the Crown to somebody? Nope, I still think it is one heck of an amp and for somebody who doesn't have the budget or is unwilling to part with $3000 for an amp, I am more than happy to sell it to them. If they want a subwoofer only amp, I will probably recommend it to them because it offers even greater damping factor than the Bryston down deep. As a full range amp, it is not as good.
The Bryston 28BSST amps are not inexpensive by any means of the word, but for the performance they achieve, the build quality and the reliability, they are arguably a good deal. For your $13000, you get an amplifier that is arguably has as little effect on the sound going thru it (other than to make it much bigger) as any other amp on the market, will drive most any concievable load to volumes beyond what most people will ever need in the home or studio without changing sound, and will likely last you the rest of your life (unlike a vast majority of the ultra high priced high end gear that is inexcuably unreliable). For somebody with the means who is looking for the ultimate in full range performance and an end to the search for one amp that does everything well, they are a good deal. The only issue with them is that they are on backorder, having completely sold out the first production run and most of the second run. The good news is most people will not need this much horsepower and like all Bryston amps, they all have nearly identical levels of transparency...the only differences being the amount of power available to drive difficult loads. This means you can purchase a 3BSST or 4BSST, put it in your system, and with the exception of being able to go as loud or have control over the absolute deepest bass notes, the smaller amps will deliver every bit as much performance as the 28BSST.
By the way...for those who have owned Bryston in the past...if you haven't heard the SST series amps, Bryston finally nailed it. I've even had some pretty hardcore tubeophiles try them out and begrudgingly admit that they really liked what they heard.
SoundBroker,
Some will never understand the need for a 13-$14000 pair of amps,these people do not have the speakers and room to take advantage of these products. What the Bryston 28B SST will be is true world beaters,besting most much more expensive power amps.
Trying to sell a $13000 pair of amps to a crowd that buys $500-1000 amps is like forcing a Ferrari to a Hyundai customer.Will not create more sales.
The customer who buys these powerful monoblocks owns larger and less efficient speakers that often present a more difficult load to the amp.
Oh yes and besides some say all those who spend so much on audio and amps must be compensating for something. [
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Pork Chops,
Today I will be TheWOOFER,again to your delight. I see you changed your avatar to one featuring a $499 Crown you own,with a gorgeous plastic faceplate and real blue LED's!I am almost envious,almost.WOW a $499 amp but wow someone pinch me,please.
Since you find Klipsch RSW subs so inferior(and you had two low end Earthquake subbies,rippoff versions of Sunfire...but with a much reduced performance),YOU should find another forum,if you can read this is a KLIPSCH SUB FORUM.
I am not going to take any orders for a newbie like you mister.No matter what.
Matters not what you say or think my Dynaudo Contour speakers are two full quality steps above your boomboxes.Dynaudio is used in studios the world over,and Dynaudio's know how surpasses pretty much all the competition.
I do not spit on Klipsch,unlike you.I own many Klipsch speakers and recommend Klipsch to people.You,you say the RSW subs are INFERIOR! What do you own,so far from what I saw very little and nothing to write home about.I can find gear better than yours on the street,come garbage pickup day.
Now take your best shot Chopsy
No shots taken at other members,and nothing against Crown.As Duke said they make great amps and for the price GREAT amps. Just pulling the chain of Chopsy here.
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no one needs the krell amps or the 4 RF-7 you have, or the dynaudio you have, getting my drift?
Its all about wants and me wants it!
Only have one Krell,four SimAudio,one Bryston,two ATI and that is all.
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TheWOOFER account is no longer hijacked by my clown coworker who likes to get into pointless arguments.And yes my password is so bizzare for TheEAR use TheWOOFER at work.
Now back to,woofers.TCsound is great for the industry as it pushes standards forward and forces the lazy competition to redesign and improve thier own products. [
]In reality who here needs these mad displacement woofers? Who will fully utilize them? Nobody save for a few people who want to fill very large spaces with deep bass.
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Jay,
TC Sounds is aserious company,and I am quite sure the top of the line woofer will have top of the line performance.The 3KW RMS rating is only the thermal rating of the voice coils,this could be used for short periods in a very small cabinet where back pressure is higher and when reaching excursion limits of the driver.400 ounce magnets !!! You will leave purple spots on CRT's over 2 meters away [
] And with this woofer a Crown K2 bridged mono will provide mucho power to drive even ineficient designs that can handle the power.
Cannot wait to see the full specs of these $800 plus woofers from TC Sounds,should send the competition packing. [
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I can't seem to find any specs for the watchdog subwoofer, but at $10k I'm sure there are plenty of alternatives that will leave it in the dust.
The SVS PB2-Ultra is one that will match and best the Watch Dog,match its depth,sub bass quality and best it in output.For how much? Under $2500!
And in DIY you can save a bit off the $2500.Or spend $2500 and get two sick TC Sounds 15" woofers and buy a powerful amp for sub duty.
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Wilson Watch Dog you say,sure you pay 85% for the cabinet and the name.The 12" woofer is very impressive,has around 3inches of cone travel.May best a TV12,but there is only so much you can do with a single 12" woofer.
Get a TC Sounds LMS5400 woofer 15 or18",an outboard Crown K2 amp,a Rane parametric EQ,build your braced to the max cabinet.You have beaten the Watch Dog with absolute ease.Now will it sound better than the Watch Dog,this all depends of your skill integrating the woofer/amp/EQ and cabinet as one.
I saw and heard the Wilson,one mighty sub.But the price is inflated greatly by the name and finish and materials used for the cabinet.Not worth $11000 to me.Sell one for $6000 and its a very competitive sub,when facing $5-6K competition.
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Did I ever hear of these guys? YOU BET
WOW check out these insane woofers,now DIY looks like a must. [
] Way to go TC Sounds,the LMS5400 looks from specs like it will be a total animal.Very interesting,buy two LMS5400 series 18" woofers,then a high power Crown with plenty O juice and damping.Build a box and slaughter any comercial sub made for home use. [
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Soon we will see even more fat people who look like FAT whales on FAT legs.
Can I MAXIMISE my burger sir?