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I traded a pair of CW's for forte II's if that helps you at all.
# 6
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Forte IIs de-throned RF-7s at my house. They also get the nod over my best friend's KLF-30s. Personally, I love 'em!
GM # 5.
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II love my Forte II...........Overall, the Forte II are spooky good (as they say) and are such in all rooms (probably).
If you want an old friend nothing else will do.
Good man #4.
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I wrote to PWK years ago before I traded in my Heresys and asked about Fortes and he wrote back saying he loved them alot as they were in essence Heresys with an extra 1/2 octave at the bottom end. I bought the II'S and never looked back unitl I bought the big boys (KHORNS). Even today you would be pushed to find a better speaker for the money you can get them for.
Cheers
A third good man.
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I was in a pawn shop last week and missed a pair of forte IIs for $200 by 5 hours. The guy in the shop said they just sat there for months with no interest before someone bought them.....drat. I wish he had at least put a cloth over them so I would have missed them. I have been told they are Heresey on steroids.
Are we not men?
We are DEVO.
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F2's .....
Fantastic ..!!!
Good man also.
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Because Forte IIs are great speakers that's why.
Good man.
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Larger speaker = larger sound.
Yes, so true.
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Actually, I think he did it on purpose - see the heavy Q&A section - he's arguing with questioners about reflected sound and resonance; kind of guy that should be here in the forum...
You are kidding, I Hope?
I don't think that the author of this thread would be a positive addition to our forum.
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I am amazed that Accuphase is being recommended over McIntosh, but that is what the consensus seems to indicate.
I guess that I am just stuck on MAC.
As always, ask two people, get two different answers.
It's what makes the world go 'round.
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don't get too cozy on your 6" tall throne of having a better sub than me for long... the paycheck's (and poker winnings) are rollin' in
Go for it master.
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Me have woofaz me move air with da woofaz. Me king of woofaz...me need bigger woofaz to move more air. [:'(]
Room fans can move a lot of air too.
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Mark...
When I start working in my downstairs room (where my "stuff" is going to end up), are you going to come on up here & give me some pointers & bring your measuring stuff?
I'll even put you up for the weekend and most special of all... let you take Chloe for her evening walk (sorry though, she's still gonna sleep with ME! [])
I'm not going to ask the significance of the two martians in your avatar... [:^)]
Is Chloe your dog or your wife?
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Mark...
When I start working in my downstairs room (where my "stuff" is going to end up), are you going to come on up here & give me some pointers & bring your measuring stuff?
I'll even put you up for the weekend
Yes Mark, me too.
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onion, good write-up, lot of infomation...............I believe Dan Hartman went on to become a producer of many disco type albums...Free Ride was a great song too.....
Free Ride good.
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FYI
from ronniemontrose.com
The first time I saw Edgar perform was with his brother Johnny at Fillmore West. Johnny played a hot set, and in the middle of it, out comes Edgar... his presence on sax and Hammond B3 did nothing short of blow the roof off the joint (or at least help Johnny finish the job)!
The next time was when I was doing a small tour with Boz Scaggs as the second guitarist in his band (side note: Boz is a great guitarist!) and we opened for White Trash somewhere in the Midwest. I remember standing on the side of the stage with my mouth hanging open! Heavy, powerful R&B coming from that band!
I didn't actually meet Edgar on that tour, only saw him play, and am not sure if he heard me play that night. But when I got back from that tour, I received a call from a fellow who knew my style of playing would be right, who told me that Edgar's management was looking for a guitarist for what was to become "The Edgar Winter Group."
They wanted to have a rock band as opposed to an R&B band, and needed a "rock guitarist"... His manager, Steve Paul called me in California, and asked if I would be interested in coming to New York to audition. My first response was concern for getting back to California in case it didn't work out! I was sent a round-trip ticket, and don't believe I used the return half...
My previous gigs with Van and Boz were more Blues/R&B based, and even though that was truly Edgar's background, this chapter of my playing would be my first introduction to what we called "Coliseum Rock"...
I recall calling home and stating that I couldn't believe I was having so much fun, and actually getting paid for it!
I used Johnny's amps for the first shows, and had only one guitar - I broke a string during the show, and had to change it between songs... needless to say, I got a spare guitar immediately after that! I had boundless energy on-stage, and people responded to it nightly. There seemed to be a "chemistry" balance between Edgar and myself, and I always enjoyed the musical energy exchange between us. (Keep in mind that I was still trying to learn how to properly play, and hadn't started writing much of anything... at that time, a simple thing like "vibrato" was a challenge!)
The band went through a few drummers in the beginning (Andy Newmark, Rick Marotta, and a couple of others) before we settled on Chuck Ruff - connection: Chuck was in the band "Sawbuck" with me in California.
Bass was handled by Randy Jo Hobbs ("White Trash," "Johnny Winter And") until he had a stroke and couldn't continue. I recall we were backstage literally right before a show we were playing in Texas when it happened to Randy... he was taken to the hospital, and the show was sold out, so Dan Hartman simply picked up the bass and the show went on. An altogether eerie night, to say the least...
Dan Hartman was the other guitarist in the band and when we officially became a "four piece" that night, switched over to bass. My memories of Dan are good ones... very "up", talented, enthusiastic, etc... I heard tape demos that Dan had made at his home using a pair of two-track tape recorders bouncing overdubs back and forth that blew my mind! He would use things like cardboard boxes for drums, etc., a prodigy in every sense of the word...
Both Randy and Dan have passed away, and are missed by many...
When we became the "four piece", we went into the studio in New York City to record this album. It spawned the songs, "Frankenstein" and "Free Ride," still staples on classic radio today... I don't think anyone in the entire organization had any idea how huge "Frankenstein" would become... I sure didn't!
We played constantly, on many, many shows of all sizes from 450 people to 450,000 people and eventually, I grew "restless" and felt the need to "stretch out" on my own... Back home to California then, the story continues...
You don't post much but when you do, you have a lot to say.
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Back in the 80's, when I was working with "The Upsetters", a local blues band, the bass player would subtly work in the melody of Frankenstein while walking the bass lines in various blues tunes. Pretty funny. I'm sure this was done a lot in other bands too.
Greg
The Frankenstein melody is pretty neat.
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Somehow I just knew that you would say this.
Why's that? .... or is this what you call another humorous statment?
If I can't or don't understand this fact, then what is wrong with you helping me our and educating me?
Because your responses to things you know nothing about are not stated as questions, they're stated as point blank, one way and argumentative. Or at least that is how they are interpreted.
I am not an antagonist. But I do try to be humorous and make this forum interesting.
You most certainly are, whether you are capable of seeing it or not. Humor?... Which opening statement was that, I think everybody, including myself missed it.
As far as bringing it on................. I would be very careful saying that to a guy named ROC.!!!!!!
[|-)] yea yea yea [|-)], and you just proved my point.
You've been hanging with the snakes too long. (here I go again)
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Somehow I just knew that you would say this.
Why's that? .... or is this what you call another humorous statment?
If I can't or don't understand this fact, then what is wrong with you helping me our and educating me?
Because your responses to things you know nothing about are not stated as questions, they're stated as point blank, one way and argumentative. Or at least that is how they are interpreted.
I am not an antagonist. But I do try to be humorous and make this forum interesting.
You most certainly are, whether you are capable of seeing it or not. Humor?... Which opening statement was that, I think everybody, including myself missed it.
As far as bringing it on................. I would be very careful saying that to a guy named ROC.!!!!!!
[|-)] yea yea yea [|-)], and you just proved my point.
Thank you for all of your comments. You are helping me to see how someone else perceives me.
I am sorry that you feel this way about me. If we met, we might become best friends. Who knows.
I wonder if your opinion is exclusively yours or if others feel this way.
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Just watched Disc 4...some good stuff...Super Bowl show didn't sound like that, when broadcast here, no way......All in All, I'm happy with this DVD Set....Sound is Good,Not the same as Four Flicks..Let's drink to the hard workin' people...[Y]...Worth the money in my book...
Does Four Licks have better or worse sound?
jackson, it's Four Flicks not Four Licks. Your confusion may be because the Stones have a product called Forty Licks.
Four Licks is a very good idea, especially for the Stones. We can only hope.
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DrWho I know that I still owe you a phone call, which I will make soon.
I borrowed a frequency CD and made the following measurements.
The first set of db readings was taken with the subwoofer settings set at my preferences, which is a sub volume setting of 9 out of 10. The second set of db readings is with the sub volume set at 0, as recommended by JL Audio. The test CD was made in 1990 so it was only for stereo not full surround. The subwoofers were activated by the test CD. I have 2 f-113 subs sitting next to my L+R mains. My setting are high because I like a lot of bass. (duh) Readings were taken at my listening position.
Hz My Settings (db) JL Audio Setting (db)
1000 78 76
200 80 83
160 80 83
125 78 80
100 85 84
80 86 86
63 86 83
50 89 87
40 90 87
31.5 92 85
25 98 - 94** 90 - 84**
20 85 77
** = The f-113 has a 25 hz volume control. This number is after lowering the 25 hz volume control
Those are my readings. DrWho, I still would like to rent your measuring equipment. Is this data enough for you to offer an opinion or give me advice. What do you think of these readings relative to getting my room acoustically adjusted and better equalized?
Please advise.
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You can never have too much sub....
Sweet music to my ears.
Sweet sweet music.
....unless you're Roc. He's already got too much [6]
Too much is not enough.
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You can never have too much sub....
Sweet music to my ears.
Sweet sweet music.
....unless you're Roc. He's already got too much [6]
There is no such thing as too much fun.!!!!
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Right on...the King of Subs says....GET THE MOST IMPRESSIVE SUBSONIC MONSTER YOU CAN...
It's kind of like women. Can you ever get enough of them? I doubt it.
Are Forte ll's worth it?
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Bad man # 1, but I do understand your reasoning.