TroyTN

I have a pair of Klipsch RS-3's for about a year now and I was thinking of selling them. I am moving to dvd audio/SACD and want direct radiating surround speakers. These rock and sound great but I think I want to move to a reference series direct speaker. I have RF-7's in the front. I have the original box for the RS-3's,manual, etc..mint condition, black. What is a fair price for these? I see on Ebay these used have sold between $280-$350 used. I guess its a starting point. Any suggestions? Next question..I wonder which bookshelf reference series I should look to buy once I sell my RS-3's? Heck some of the reference series tower speakers sell at the same price as the bookshelf. One would think an tower speaker would blow away a bookshelf at the same price. Any suggestions? thanks Oh ya..I'm running a Denon 5803 for my surround speakers and an Anthem MCA30 amp for the front three RS-7 series speakers. Troy troybish@webtv.net

My room is 15ft wide and I read in a recent Home theater Magazine that the main listening postion should be one third the demension of the room and the front speakers half of that so one sixth. Which means the sitting position at 5 feet and my speakers two and a half off each wall? Does this logic work in your setup? I always assumed one would want to be centered between the 2 front speakers for best stereo effect. I have Klipsch RF-7's for my main speakers. Any suggestions on another way to go at this setup? thanks

With the new Klipsch reference series rolling out does this mean the RF7 is no longer the top model in the line and it has been replaced by the RF35? Or are the new RF series a compliment to the existing reference series? If so I wonder if they will begin to make the RF7's look the same as the RF35's with the woofers solid gold? Thanks

Thanks for all the info... Dean - great info. Pics would be great. I mainly want to absorb high frequency sound. Not so much the lows. My room walls have movie pictures on them, One large window on the rear wall which I installed black curtains which helped a bunch. But I feel there is still way to much high frequency reflections. The room sounds very bright. I want to try a sound absorbing material at the first reflecton points using a mirror on the side walls and possibly the front wall behind the RF7's as well. I have read that if you can clap your hands and get an echo one needs more absorbtion in the room. My clap echo is terrible. I have read others that have installed some sort of sound absorbing material at the first point of reflection had an experiance of night and day sound imaging and depth in their front soundstage. I did a search and found Sonex as the Leader in sound panels. I will check out the other mentioned in this thread. I know Klipsch can be "bright" to some and when I crank my system, It c be bright. I need to deaden my room from reflections I think. I use an Anthem MCA 30 amp with my RF7's. Maybe the amp is not a good match for Klipsch? Anyone heard of Anthem and paired with Klipsch? I love the clarity and depth I get from it. I think it more my room than the amp being to bright. I could be wrong. I will know once I try some absorbers. Thanks again for your input Troy

I want to get some sound absorbers for my side walls and possibly front wall. I have found some RPG Pro foam and Sonex. Does anyone have a recomendation on which would be better for my RF-7's. Are there others available that are effective? The sonex are sold in sheets of 24" x 48" and has options of 500hz and 1000hz absorbive sheets. Which would be better? I have extreme slap echo in my room. Thanks Troy ------------------ Troy...

I have a pair of RF-7's and I have seen several pics of home theater systems here and some of you point your Klipsch straight ahead and some directly at the listening position and others just slightly behind the listening position. So I'm guessing with horn loaded speakers like Klipsch there is no "correct" way to do it to get the best main soundstage? I have read others say there is a certian way to position you main speakers to get the full effect of horn speakers. (please share) Can anyone give me an idea how you have your Klipsch main speakers set up? I sit 10 feet away and the speakers are spaced 9 feet apart. I have moved them closer but I lose that wide soundstage for 2 channel music. Any suggestions on getting the most from these babies and their placement? Thanks ------------------ Troy... This message has been edited by TroyTN on 06-13-2002 at 08:43 AM

Lynnm, So how large did you build your panels and are they hung at ear level and below or just anywhere on the wall at the reflection spot? One on each side wall? Thanks again ------------------ Troy...

I received my Denon 5803 last week with my RF-7 reference all around and wow. I have played with the crossover and I left the RF-7 and RC-7 at large and all the rest at small. The crossover as well was left at 80hz. Of course the RF-7 can ake it at 40hz and 60hz but it just lacks that kick in the chest at 40 and 60 hz from the sub. I for now I am leaving it at 80hz. The overall bass repsonse is better at 80hz. Make sure and set the Main+LFE when the RF-7's are at large. This way it send uniform base to the RF-7's and the sub. I use an M&K350THX sub. Troy

I was wondering if many of you Klipsch owners use any sound diffusion material in your room to widen your soundstage using Klipsch speakers? If so what do you use? Also I read that one can simply have someone move a small mirror along each side wall until the person sitting in the sweetspot sees the speaker in the mirror and that is where the first sound reflections occur and a sound diffuser should be placed on the wall at ear level and below to better expand the front soundstage. So one would have a sound diffuser on each side wall. I have even read one should cover the entire front wall with some sort of fabric. Does this apply with horn loaded speakers like Klipsch? Anyone do it and notice a huge improvement? Thanks Troy

I was wondering if many of you Klipsch owners use and sound diffusion material in your room to widen your soundstage using Klipsch speakers? If so what do you use? Also I read that one can simply have someone move a small mirror along each side wall until the person sitting in the sweetspot sees the speaker in the mirror and that is where the first sound reflections occur and a sound diffuser should be placed on the wall at ear level and below to better expand the front soundstage. So one would have a sound diffuser on each side wall. I have even read one should cover the entire front wall with some sort of fabric. Does this apply with horn loaded speakers like Klipsch? Anyone do it and notice a huge improvement? Thanks Troy

I have a Denon receiver and Klipsch RF-7s up front and RC-3 in the center. I was thinking of getting a 3-channel amp to run the front three channels. So many people seem to claim getting a separate amp to run the main channels has such as dramatic improvement over a standard receivers amplifiers. My question is what manufacturors make 3-channel amps? It seems parasound made some great 3-channel amps a few years ago and stopped. I was looking at used Parasound amps which sell for $800-$900 bucks when there are nice 5 channel amps for the same price. Why doesn't anyone make decent 3-channel amps anymore? With the advent of DD EX and DTS ES one would think there are several people with decent systems needing to upgrade for the rear center channel. Even the new Aragons on this website only has 2-5-7 channel amps...They used to make Great 3-channel amps.. Troy

For best stereo imaging how do you have your RF-7's? Pointing directly at the listening position? I get better separation pointing them just to the left and right of the listening position. If I point directly at me they do not seem as dynamic. Then again if I had a larger room it might help. My room is only 14' feet wide. RF-7's are 9' apart and I sit 12 feet from them. The manula states to face them forward and slightly tune them inward.. Troy

I will be getting RF-7's soon and I was wondering for those with reference series Klipsch speakers do you toe in our front speakers to the listening position or point thme straight out? which will give the best imaging? I will sit about 14' from the speakers. I assume I could put them about 6' apart and point them straight ou or have them 9' apart and toe them in and have the same effect. How do you have your Klipsch for optimal stereo imaging? ------------------ Troy...

I have the RF-7's and the owners manual suggests the main speakers be a minimum of 24" from the front wall and 24" from the side walls. I have moved them 12" and 24" and I cannot tell much difference. Does anyone have theor Klipsch speakers less then the recommended 24" from both front and side walls? I would think farther apart and pointed directly at the listening position would have better stereo imaging. I think Klipch speakers are better facing directly at the listener.. Your thoughts on the distance from front and side walls and the towing in of the main speakers for stereo imaging.. My speakers are 9' apart and I sit 13 feet from them. If I move them 24" from the side walls per the recommendation They are only 7 feet apart. Thanks. ------------------ Troy... This message has been edited by TroyTN on 08-11-2001 at 10:24 PM

here is a website showing all dvd audio hardware and software: www.digitalaudioguide.com and all dts titles can be found at www.dtstech.com ------------------ Troy...

Dvd audio players can be had for $300. Check out the new Toshiba progressive scan dvd players with dvd audio coming out in September. www.toshiba.com models sd4700 and sd5700. These will be HOT! a top performing dvd player and dvd auido player. A note on the dvd audio discs. All dvd audio discs will play on your existing dvd player but to get true high resolution sound you must have an actual dvd audio player with 5.1 analog outputs and a receiver that accepts an anolog 5.1 input. Whats nice is you can look for dvd audio titles with DTS logo on them which will give you full DTS 5.1 surround sound on your standard dvd player which the dts sound is very close to the high resolution dvd audio track on the same dvd. So you can buy the music discs now and play them on your rrent dvd player in DTS and add a dvd audio player in the future. Of course you must have a dts decoder. So if you buy any dvd audio titles without DTS on them, your standard dvd player will play them in stereo only. Troy ------------------ Troy...

I forgot to mention dvd audio titles are sold at all Best Buys and Sam Goody stores. Best Buy has them in the dvd music disc area. Sam Goody stores have them in a special dvd audio section and growing everyday. Little more spend at Sam Goody. Enjoy... ------------------ Troy...

I have many dts cd's and dvd audio discs. I mainly buy all mine at www.dvdplanet.com (there is a dvd audio link on the home page) and www.amazon.com just added a dvd audio section this month! I have all types of music and the tops for dts surround sound would be these: 1. Steely Dan - Two against nature 2. Steve Stevens - Flamingo a go go (Bill Idols guitar player. This is an all electric guitar cd) 3. Toy Matinee - Toy Matinee 4. Brian Wilsons - Imagination (from the Beach Boys. great sound with a variety of musical instruments. My wife loves this cd) 5.Any of the Stings cd's Eagles - Hell freezes over It looks like DTS is moving all of its DTS cd's to DTS dvd audio. So when you order a dvd audio that has DTS on it you can play it on any dvd player. These truely rock my Klipsch and You will enjoy them again and again. Try and of the dvd audio titles I have listed. They will amaze you on sound. ------------------ Troy...

I think I will keep with my rs-3's for my surrounds. Looks better and I have the Denon 5800 and I had both the rs-3's and fortes in the rears one on surround channel A and the other on B and switched between the two and I prefer the rs-3's over the direct radiating fortes. Mainly because the rs-3's are 7' off the ground and the fortes tweeters are just above the couch. A much better surround field with the rs-3's high up on the back walls. I do have a second pair of rs-3's on the side wall surrounds. On the dvd audio/SACD. A great place to buy dvd audio music is www.dvdplanet.com and any tower records store or shop them on the net www.towerrecords.com Some top notch rockin surround sound dvd audio is Steely Dan's Two against nature and Steve Stevens Flamingo a go go. These also have full 5.1 dts tracks on them that plays on every dvd player. Even if you do not have dvd audio, gets these dvd audio discs to play on your standard dvd player and be amazed... ------------------ Troy...

I recently bought some RF-7s for my mains replacing my Forte II's which are for sale just sitting unused. Anyway I thought I would try putting my Forte's in the rear. Sounds pretty good. I currently have rs-3's for rears. I listen to alot of sacd and dvd audio so I'm thinking of a pair of rf-3's for the rear. Have to sell the Fortes, wife wants all black speakers. That was the deal. I can get all new speakers if I sell the Fortes. So my question is does anyone had rf-3s or non wdst speakers for rears and how do you like it? Any opinions on staying with rs-3's for rears or getting rf-3's for my rears? It seems the majority of people have rs-3's for rears over larger speakers. Loks like I will have a pair of black rs-3s for sale and my Fortes. Thanks in advance or your input. Troy

I have a new pair of RF-7's coming this week and I was thinking of moving my Forte II's to the rears so I would have full range rears. What have you used to bring larger speakers off the rear floor? It seems with a standard couch like mine if I just set the Forte's on the floor the horns would be below ear level. I was wondering how you display your large surround speakers. I'm sure some of you have larger speakers in the rear than the Fortes are. I currently have a pair of rs-3's high up on the back wall. I am anxious to see if I will like having Fortes in the rear over the rs-3's. 1. How high do you suggest bringing my forte's off the floor and use what? 2. Do you feel rs-3's or the Fortes in the rear will be a better setup? I have the Denon 5800 and listen to tons of DTS cd's, dvd audio and SACD. I appreciate any input. ------------------ Troy...

I was thinking of upgrading my Forte II's to either the rf-5 or rf-7's. Or would this be a down grade? Has anyone heard and compared the rf-5 and rf-7's..I really wonder if there is much sonic difference. I plan to hook them up to my Denon 5800 and run them at the small speaker settng so the low end frequency response difference between them would not matter. I just wonder if the rf-7's would have a more open sound to it with the larger horn. I would really appreciate anyones input on selling my Fortes and moving to either the rf-5 or rf7. Oh I do have the rc-3 for my center and rs-3's for my rears. Thanks in advance ------------------ Troy...

I have Klipsch reference all around and I was thinking of a powered sub. Has anyone had, or compared Klipsch powered subs to the M&K subs in the same price range? I'm curious what you preferred and why. Also wheres a good place to buy Klipch powered subs on the net? Thanks Troy

Thanks for all the input. I'm leaning towards the RF-7's. Now I just need to find a great price on the net. $1500 is the lowest I could find so far. I also need to sell my Forte II's. My guess is locally since it probably costs $100 each to ship these things.. Troy

I was thinking of getting new speakers and leaning towards the new Klipsch Reference series RF-7's tower speakers. I plan to get dvd audio and or Sony SACD in the future and I noticed no one makes speakers that cover the frequency range of these formats (except Sony). I have the Denon 5800 which has DACS capable of passing the full range of dvd audio/sacd but all speakers except Sony brand are limted in the upper frequency range. What are your thoughts on this? I have read these new high resolution formats can cause amps to get hot and ruin speakers due to the higher frequencies and 99% of current products out there cannot handle or pass through these full frequencies.. Can someone share with me if they are having any issues in their systems using one of these new formats or is this not an issue at all? I'm getting the upgrade bug. I have a nice oak pair of Forte II's I need to sell. Thanks, ------------------ Troy...