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I haven't fiddled with them in a while, been busy building Mogami headphone cables and Deuland DCA16GA interconnects. I bought two L-Pads to give me some adjustment for the LMAHL tweeters but haven't installed them. I can't seem to talk myself into drilling holes in the cabinets to mount them or putting them in the circuit between the tweeter and the crossover. L-Pads are essentially a rheostat and, imho and correct me if I'm wrong, have to introduce some noise into or alter the circuit in some way. Been thinking about taking the LMAHLs out and putting my titanium K-79-Ks back in for a while for a comparison. Honestly, I just don't really know what I want to do. I think being cooped up for nine months hiding from Covid is beginning to wear me down and not how I envisioned retirement.
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25 minutes ago, Woofers and Tweeters said:
I let my LMAHL play for a few days, without listening to them. Since then, I have only enjoyed their sounds.
I've had them in mine for a while now. It's not that I don't like them because I do. They sound very good indeed but they seem to overpower the mids a bit. I've got an inch of foam lining the 2/3 of the cabinet (bare around the ports) and maybe I should remove some of it and let the LMAHLs and the mids resonate a bit. It just seems like the 20s have lost something, could be several things doing it. I've made several gear changes lately.
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23 hours ago, wuzzzer said:
Really? Like from putting it in an oven before you use them?
Do they taste like lasagna after they're baked for three hours? 😁
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I still want to try a couple of Mogamis. My RCA plugs will be here tomorrow, should have them built Tuesday. I've got all BJC in my system and I'm very happy with them but I'll try the Mogamis just to see what they'll do. Can't hurt anything.
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I'm going to build a couple of Mogami 2549 interconnects this week and see if they make a difference.
I'm presently breaking in some 12AX7 and 12AT7 Raytheon USA black plates in the preamp. They sound mellower so far. -
7 hours ago, fred jones said:
that is something you will have to try on your own since you are the one that hears them.
some speakers benefit from toe in and some dont......and you have to make small adjustments, listen and maybe leave it that way for a day or two and then try again.
how are the room treatments ? if no room treatments, i would seriously consider adding some as that can help a lot.
also have to look at equipment.....and cables as that will have an effect on the sound as well.
Dynaco ST70 amp, all Jolida preamp, phono pre, and CD player. BJC cables.
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1 hour ago, Alexander said:
Being that your klf-20s are soooo bright, is the room a very hard one? Void of things like carpet & soft surface furniture?
No, floor is carpeted, soft furniture, framed pictures on the walls, etc.
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Maybe I should try toeing them in a bit more. The way they are now the triangle would come to a point 2 feet behind my listening position. Also, due to the shape of my room the right speaker is about 1.5 feet from the side wall and the left is about 6 feet from the other side wall. They're both 18 inches out from the wall behind them. It's not a room that's very good for stereo, but it is what it is.
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I've got my KLF-20s toed in but I'm wondering if I should have them straight ahead? I recently installed the LMAHL tweeters and they brightened them up quite a bit. Would pointing them straight ahead lessen some of the brightness and shoutiness of the horns? I already have Bob's crossovers with his bandpass for the titanium mid that I put in them. I also wonder if the LMAHL tweeter is a mismatch for the crossover? They sound really good with movies but with music they're more shouty and bright than they were before I put the LMAHLs in. Anyone have any thoughts, opinions, or advice?
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When I put the LMAHL's in my KLF-20's I was in the middle of doing some mods on my Jolida JD9a. I was soldering in some Obbligato caps and changing out four of the BB OPA627ap op amps for LT1028's leaving two BB's in the output position. When I finished everything I put Donald Fagen's Nightfly on the Scout and had a "Holy Crap This Sounds Good" moment. Haven't had one of those in a while. The music just jumped out at me. More detail, better mids, tighter bass, I could finally really hear cymbals that actually sounded like cymbals. I ordered two more Obbligatos for the Jolida JD5T preamp that should be here next week. Can't wait to hear what that 's going to add to the mix. I've got GE 5751 JAN triple micas in the JD9 and I've got another pair of them I'm thinking about putting in the JD5T, while it's apart, in place of the Psvane 12ax7's that are in there now. Really impressed with the overall quality of the LMAHL's , I wasn't expecting such a really nice change. It's not often you actually get what you pay for.
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Got them in and they sound very good indeed. To my ears they're clearer and sweeter than the titaniums, cymbals are much better with more ring and presence. The LMAHL's so far seem to blend a bit better with the titanium mids. Money well spent IMHO.
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My only concern is whether they'll blend well with my mids. I've got the oem , can't remember the part #, Klipsch titanium diaphragms in the mids. I talked to Bob about the crossovers before I bought the mids and he advised me to let him build a bandpass add on for the new crossovers to compensate for the titanium mids. He told me these were the first crossovers for KLF-20's that he had built with the bandpass. I'm confident that they'll be OK because if anybody knows Klipsch it's Bob Crites. As I mentioned earlier I've never been satisfied with the tweeters and I've always believed that they are overwhelmed by the mids and are the biggest weakness in the 20's. The 20's to my ears sound better and smoother with movies than they do with music. Cymbals sound very recessed and gritty on two channel music so hopefully Dave's units will rectify this. That's just my personal opinion and I'm looking forward to hearing the LMAHL's.
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It's done, I went for it and ordered them a few minutes ago.
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I'm going to order a pair tomorrow.
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Thanks. I've never liked the tweeters in my 20's. Even with titanium diaphragms I can barely hear them and they sound shrill and gritty.
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Anybody using these tweeters with the KLF-20? My KLF's have Crites titanium diaphragms in the K-79-K's presently. I also have the Klipsch titanium mids and Crites crossovers with the bandpass addition for the mid. Would I have to modify the crossovers to use the DaveA LMAHL tweeters? Will the LMAHL's blend well with the titanium mids? I've never been completely satisfied with the tweeter response from the KLF-20 even with the titanium diaphragms. They sound a bit shrill, brittle, and recessed to my old ears. Would the LMAHL's be an improvement or just a sideways move over what I have now?
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To my ears the RS 3's sound better than the KSF-S5's. The titanium tweeters in the RS 3's deliver more detail and the woofer has better bass. The extra 3dB of sensitivity made a difference in the overall balance with the rest of my speakers. I'm happy with them.
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Can't use another set of towers, room's too small.
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Which of these surround speakers would be a better match with my KLF-20's? I'm using an Emotiva XPA-3 (200 rms x 3) for the fronts with a KV-4 center, and an Emotiva XPA-200 (150 rms x 2) for the rear surrounds which are presently the KSF-S5's. The KSF's sound a bit underpowered vs the fronts and I'm curious if the 2 or 3 dB better efficiency of the RS 3's would be worth it. I'd love to have a pair of RS 7's but they're rare and the ones I've seen are usually way overpriced and in bad shape. I'm open to any suggestions anyone might have as to alternative surrounds to match my gear.
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I am so tired of audio reviews. When I read a car review, I can understand what they are saying. When I read a hotel review, I understand what the reviewer is saying is good or bad about the particular site. When I read a resturaunt review, I either get hungrier or decide to start a diet. But when I read an audio review,it reminds me of the children's story about the Emperor who had no clothes.
Here are lines from the last review I read.
More dynamic at the macro level and about the same as you scale down to the micro level.
Imaging is similar in density and edge definition (i.e. very good) but with a little less layering.
A nice sense of natural flesh and blood solidity comes through.
The acoustic around the images is less charged by the music.
The texture (grain size of noise) is a bit larger and more noticeable and in the plane of the music but only rarely intrusive.
There is a nice sense of air and space
Gives less of a 'they are here' perspective and more of a 'you are there' sense to the music
A little less continuous -- a little larger grained -- but still very liquid and flowing and still making the music come across as connected from moment to moment to be musically compelling.
WTF?
What a load of crap! Does it sound good or not?
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Never owned the 10's but I do own the KLF-20's. I used a pair of 5.5's for 15 years eventually modding them with Crites crossovers, titanium diaphragms and some inner cabinet work which was a big improvement. Did pretty much the same mods to the 20's which, IMHO, made them a much better sounding speaker than the 5.5's. I sold the 5.5's to a friend who is now enjoying them as I did. If you haven't tried any of Bob Crites titanium diaphragms and crossovers in your 5.5's do so.
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I've had mine for three plus years and love it. Tried several sets of tubes with it and finally settled on Electro Harmonix 12AX7 Gold Pins. Quiet operation and nice smooth detailed sound. Comments about the remote are accurate, it's very heavy and one could probably brain a home invader with it.
Regards, Sam-
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I have not heard the upgraded Crites x-overs/titanium tweeters and midranges. however I did consider them before I purchased the RF7ii. but I got such a good deal and the cherry wood grain looks so good, and I had the money. I just could not stop myself.
As far as sound, the 20's sound great but the 7ii will play louder, cleaner and better imaging (bigger sound stage). If it's any indication of whether I still like the 20's I have not sold them, and will not. I will always find a use for them. just like my old crown amps.
A set of Bob's crossovers also makes a big difference in smoothness and detail for the 20's. Does Bob sell titanium diaphragms for the mids now? I had to get mine from Klipsch. They're the same diaphragm a more recent speaker uses but I can't remember which one. Anyway, the only way I could get Klipsch Service to sell them to me was that I had to tell them I had that speaker and had blown them up. Whatever it takes.
What happened to my new speakers???
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Could this possibly be a reaction between the copper and fumes from whatever wood you're burning in your stove? Copper is a very reactive material.