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44 minutes ago, pzannucci said:
Not spliced. It doesn't mean it wasn't manipulated via other means that are not as heavy handed. The lab is in place to study and increase the impact of a virus. if that isn't done by splicing, there must be other means.
I watched a video presentation with a molecular biologist who said there is no way this virus could have mutated on its own in a lab to jump species as quickly as it did. Remember, the lab was working on bioterrorism and was partly funded by us! Fauci was involved with the financial arrangements. To me, he is a politician first and foremost with his own agenda.
The biologist worked with him back in the day, and if her allegations are really true, he is far from being the savior of our country that the media says he is.
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In my opinion we are going to see this scenario played out for coronavirus which may explain why Plaquenil seems to have fallen into “disfavor” :
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I'm concerned about the push for a "fast tracked" vaccine the long term effects of which will not manifest for many years. And, then there's the possibility of getting a potentially organ damaging vaccine acquired condition (I've read articles about vaccine acquired poliomyelitis, for example). There's also still no definitive information about whether having a naturally acquired infection will provide long term immunity. If that's the case, a vaccine won't be of much use anyway.
Given that this virus is already mutating, trying to control exposure to it is almost a lost cause in my opinion. Then there's the influence of non-medical folks like Gates who, in one interview which I watched, suggested that it will be necessary to vaccinate virtually every human on the planet for coronavirus. It makes me wonder if there's another agenda going on which the media doesn't want to talk about.
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Just found a study which makes a strong case for transmission of the virus through the eyes (I have been combing the literature and most have been speculative). If this is really confirmed I imagine that tight fitting goggles, like swimmer’s goggles, will become required when in public. What’s next, full hazmat protection?
https://res.mdpi.com/d_attachment/jcm/jcm-09-01269/article_deploy/jcm-09-01269.pdf
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My wife, a retired Special Ed. teacher, is still in touch with the parents of many of her former students. The issues described in the article are mild compared with what is going on in some families.
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Here’s another reason to be optimistic:
I think another article said there is going to be another vote today to get this pushed through. Between this, and some stuff I’ve been reading about Bill Gates et al, I’m starting to believe more than ever that this entire situation was deliberately created.
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The way those tubes may sound in other equipment is meaningless. You need to try them in your amp, with your speakers, in your room, and, most importantly, with your ears to have any idea how they will sound.
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It is impossible to make a purchase decision based on what others think is best. This is especially true with tube amps. The best advice is to purchase one from a dealer who will allow you to return it if you are not satisfied. Check dealer websites and I’m sure you will find some that offer this.
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While we can’t get enough food, exports continue. What a surprise:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-meat-workers-fall-sick-052127838.html
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21 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:
Okay........ researchers in Hong Kong (aka China) have reported that covid19 is extremely contagious through the ‘eyes’. They compared it in-vitro to other viruses and found covid19 to be 100X more infectious than the bird flu or SARS on scleral tissues. Not sure if, or how this may relate to ‘covid eyes’ as a described symptom for the infection. I presumed ‘covid eyes’ to be an expression of a systemic infection but maybe they’re an expression of an initial contamination point?? They also wonder how many people do get infected via the eyes and not the upper respiratory tract. Which leads to the ultimate question: Will they now suggest wearing protective goggles to compliment the masks?
I cannot find a single recent study in the ophthalmic literature which supports this viewpoint. Active virus has been found in the tears and conjunctiva of a few individuals with systemic infection symptoms. There is no evidence that a person can contract the systemic illness from ocular exposure. Whether "covid eyes" can be transmitted by exposure to the tears of an infected person remains to be seen (obviously, sharing of towels should never be done anyway). But, as with any viral conjunctivitis, one should always be careful. Also, I suspect that some of the presumed cases of "covid eyes" as diagnosed by family doctors (who generally are not well versed in ocular pathology), may actually be cases of EKC (extremely contagious) which can accompany systemic symptoms. We certainly need to expand testing across the board and I strongly urge anyone who develops conjunctivitis symptoms to see an ophthalmologist who is the only type of practitioner who can do the necessary differential diagnosis.
Interestingly (to me), there has not been any evidence that the coronavirus can proliferate in soft contact lenses. But, here also, hand hygiene is extremely important before inserting and removing lenses (as it should be regardless). And, obviously, contact lenses should not be shared (a common practice among young folks).
https://eyewiki.aao.org/Epidemic_Keratoconjunctivitis
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And now there's this:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/07/health/coronavirus-semen-china-health/index.html
It's already known that some viruses can reside in testes and possibly alter DNA:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/09/human-semen-can-host-27-different-viruses
The implications for kids conceived during this time may be frightening.....
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9 hours ago, 000 said:
bring the jobs back from China as fast as you can , stop buying made in China , buy USA MADE , put people to work , or everybody to work , and maybe we will be able to get out of the hole -
Even if corporate greed is eliminated, and some manufacturing is brought back here, who is going to work in the factories? With the current mentality there would not be enough of a work force to even scratch the surface. Food processing workers refusing to come back to work demonstrate why we can’t survive economically.
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In my opinion, we are not far from the realities of the pictures shown here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2255693/Last-pictures-life-iron-curtain-collapse-USSR.html
Add face masks, and 6 foot spacing, and you will get the idea.
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29 minutes ago, sputnik said:
Could we be weakening our virus resistance with our social distancing?
Yes! While out walking I encountered the retired internist I have known for years. Previously, he was putting stock in a vaccine. Now, in view of the virus mutations being documented, he feels that the only way to get some degree of control is to be exposed. I totally agree with this.
Earlier, someone said that beans and corn are a good substitute for meat. Around here, beans are very scarce. In addition, I know many who can not tolerate beans even with supplemental digestive enzymes.
It is difficult to imagine that the ramping up of the food shortage is not being done with intent. There are many who believe that what Kissinger suggested back in ‘74 is one of the best ways to control the population. When you are out of work, relying on government financial assistance, and standing on a food line for hours for your daily allotment, you will do whatever you are told to do.
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Allowing food processing plants to shut down completely is analogous to allowing the NYPD or the military to shut down. If you think deaths from the virus are high, wait until there is no food in the stores and rioting and looting takes place across country. I would take my chances with the virus over that anytime.
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Richard, if you can, post a picture of your eyes. I would like to see what they look like. It isn’t unusual for people to get a secondary viral conjunctivitis with systemic viral infections. Of course you did say you tested negative for the current “plague” which makes me wonder if the negative is false. Do they suspect sepsis related to your Crohn's?
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Here is another interesting perspective on the situation :
I generally prefer researching medical issues using non US sources as there as been so much corruption exposed within the CDC and the FDA that it’s difficult for me to believe what they say.
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Is it possible that the decision has been made to reduce the planet’s population now in view of the explosive growth? That was the gist of the NSSM 200 paper. Sadly, we will never know the truth about, or the motivations of, the current mess.
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“Is the US prepared to accept food rationing to help people who can’t/won’t control their population growth?”
”Should the US seek to change its own food consumption patterns toward more efficient uses of protein? “
”Are mandatory population control measures appropriate for the US and/or for others? “
The above from NSSM 200, 1974
Just throwing this out for consideration in view of what’s going on. Please keep any comments about this general and not political.
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Does anyone actually believe that this is the last bioterrorism pathogen which will manage to “escape” a laboratory? We have the capability to generate some which are so virulent that this will seem like a common cold in comparison. This last thought is from a former neighbor who is a molecular biologist.
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More “encouragement “ about the food supply:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-19-meat-shortages-could-195836344.html
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1 hour ago, dwilawyer said:
I'm not seeing any connection at all being made in that article.
"Dr. Fauci did not respond to Newsweek's requests for comment. NIH responded with a statement that said in part: "Most emerging human viruses come from wildlife, and these represent a significant threat to public health and biosecurity in the US and globally, as demonstrated by the SARS epidemic of 2002-03, and the current COVID-19 pandemic.... scientific research indicates that there is no evidence that suggests the virus was created in a laboratory."
There is out right now on Netflix, a documentary about Covid-19 (In top ten US section) that shows the following activity:
"The NIH research consisted of two parts. The first part began in 2014 and involved surveillance of bat coronaviruses, and had a budget of $3.7 million. The program funded Shi Zheng-Li, a virologist at the Wuhan lab, and other researchers to investigate and catalogue bat coronaviruses in the wild. This part of the project was completed in 2019."
Also in that documentary it showed how they classify the virus strains they find in bats (paraphrasing, no big deal, medium risk, and oh man, if this gets out we are going to have a pandemic on out hands and we better start working on a solution now for if/when that happens).
"Three years later, though—in December 2017—the NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began. The NIH established a framework for determining how the research would go forward: scientists have to get approval from a panel of experts, who would decide whether the risks were justified."
@tube fanatic I read that article twice and there is nothing in there that says anything about SARS-CoV-2 being created in a lab other than some unnamed "official" said it was possible. The article doesn't conclude anywhere that SARS-CoV-2 was created in a lab.
It does say that "gain of function" research is controversial because if you have an accident and release a pathogen that has been release after gain of function you could have developed a very deadly pathogen much more deadly, much more difficult to stop. The article also discusses the controversy among scientists in this field about whether the benefits possibly derived from gain of use methods are outweighed by the associated risks.
Travis, I appreciate your perspective. However, I refuse to believe that research involving deadly pathogens is altruistic. In the other thread I posted a link about the number of times medical experimentation using pathogens was conducted by our own people on our own citizens without their knowledge or consent. Anyone interested can look up those references.
I also offer this for consideration:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1326439/
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9 hours ago, Woofers and Tweeters said:
Are we in agreement that is started in the live food market or in a lab?
This is more needed info, too.
According to this article, it was lab created:I can’t get very excited about proposed vaccines as the fast tracking means totally inadequate testing with no concern or knowledge regarding long term effects. I would bet that the manufacturers will be protected by the total liability shield. So when people begin showing all kinds of side effects they will not be able to sue. These side effects will be dismissed as “coincidence” as has been the case with Gardasil which has killed some girls and left others totally disabled.
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I enjoy listening to the phantom center image also. However, I am finding that the single speaker placed in the corner creates such wide dispersion that an illusion of width and depth is created which is even more pleasing to my ears. By changing the listening spot I can create varying acoustic effects which, depending on the recording, can be very enjoyable as well.
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Covid19 redux
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Murphy does a daily coronavirus update. Basically, we are being told that life will never go back to pre-virus status and that getting to “the new normal” is contingent upon a vaccine which is proved to work being available. So, while life may normalize to a significant degree elsewhere, NJ will still be saddled with all kinds of limits. What is really sad is that I live only a short distance from PA and can walk across a number of short bridges to get there. That will certainly cement the demise of all kinds of small businesses here while those across the river thrive once again. It may be time to head west.....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/nj-reveals-multi-stage-coronavirus-reopening-plan-were-in-stage-1-murphy-says/ar-BB14gnoN
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