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14 hours ago, clairej said:
Gary, I would love your insight on pricing some Klipschorns that my Dad would like to sell. The speaker numbers are 16U074 and 16U075. Maybe they are oak veneer fronts just based on the appearance. 🤷🏻♀️
I don't know.
I priced my k-horns so that I would be happy, the buyer would be happy. I am guessing that my prices are low as the response has been pretty good. That said no one local has come to even look so I must be too high for the folks in Massachusetts. Both pairs that have sold have gone to Brooklyn so they must think that their dollars are smaller than the local people. Your dads 1980 khorns are worth what makes folks happy, I don't know where they are located, what they look like (what is a img.heic ) I did not pay a lot for any of these Khorns at the time in dollars, that said two pairs were on craigslist and one pair from ebay. All were located within 50 miles and the pair I got the least money for, cost the most in terms of dollars. All needed work, some a lot of work and all still need some work but all sounded great.
This pic was taken yesterday, the first time these corners have not had khorns in them for over 10 years.
I love a good rats nest
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Yesterday, Max came by and bought the birch front KD-FR Klipschorns.
That leaves the "wet walnut" veneered K-horns for the time being. Gil has called and stated that he is all in on those and will be by next Saturday to get them. If that changes I will post a further update.
I wish that I had a few more pair as it make me feel good to know that some others will enjoy them and not have to give their first born to listen to some of the best reproducers of sound ever made.
Thanks to all that have read and responded.
Gary
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How funny is that... I would guess that the buyer didn't even hear them in good corners. I guess my sales pitch needs a tune up.
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I saw this and thought that some folks may be interested, it was posted 14 hours ago
https://providence.craigslist.org/ele/d/pawtucket-klipsch-horns/7336225156.html
Sellers email
392fd3977d4530c6b33be7e00853a12c@sale.craigslist.org
I guess if you are in the market, Pawtucket is about an hour away from me so you can see what else is available that is local. For both pairs that I have available for sale, I was quoting prices 10 to 25 percent less. These K-horns in Pawtucket, R.I. look pretty nice but there are some closer pictures which show a bit of veneer chipping. I don't care if you buy the ones in Pawtucket or mine, just trying to help anyone looking for K-horns. I have enjoyed mine for more than ten years and I hope that if someone is looking that they will do the same. I don't know and have not talked to the seller of these K-horns. I have in the past found Lotus Elan cars for those that are looking, I don't sell much but do know a bit and many folks that have Lotus Elans, I just like to help people to have fun doing what I enjoy doing. I don't take money but I do get satisfaction knowing that I have put a smile on some folks faces.
Best of luck and above all else "enjoy yourself"
Gary
I guess this is my idea of a BUMP
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22 hours ago, Pondoro said:
Not a bad plan. I saved a couple of bucks over your plan but your idea keeps the option of going back much more easily.
As you say, a few dollars.
I think a 1/4 sheet of 18 mm Baltic birch "30 x 30" will do so $54
https://www.boulterplywood.com/MultiLayerPlywood_4.htm
prices have gone up, (like double in the last couple years) but so have Heresies and all other heritage speakers. I like building so its not a big thing to do.
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On 6/6/2021 at 9:07 PM, Pondoro said:
More on bracing the back. Once again I remind you that there is no reason to do it in my opinion. But we are tinkerers. If you look at the 12 lowest modes of a panel in my previous post we do not know the exact frequency of any of them, but we know lower modes are easier to excite. To get exact frequencies we would need to know stiffness data for the plywood and I'll bet it is difficult to get. We would need to make assumptions about the stiffness of the screwed edges. People who design speakers for a living know this stuff, if they have analyzed and tested a lot of speakers. The other way to approach vibration is to "kill them all" (all the modes). Here is a picture of the braces I added to the back of my Heresy speakers. Each brace is 3/4" thick and 1" in depth. They are not perfectly symmetric on purpose. If you compare them to the modes pictured above they interfere with all of them. They interfere the least with 2,3 and 3,1. They interfere a lot with the entire top row and the first mode in row 2 (2,1). So they do attack the lowest modes. I braced the back of one speaker and then reassembled the speaker and tapped it. I tapped the unmodified back. The resonance of the braced back was a definitely higher, but not twice as high. This test only tells what happens when I tap the board, not what a speaker does. I played music, I could not tell one speaker from the other. I modified the second speaker. The wood came from my scrap bin, but I could have used it in a different project so it was not "free." I used glue and drywall screws. Total cost was maybe $2. I do not even know if total cost was $2 per speaker or total, it doesn't matter. Like I said, I could not hear any difference. If you tap the sides of your Heresy you will note that they are a lot stiffer than the back. I would not bother to stiffen the sides. There is no easy way to stiffen the motor board without using a lot of wood (as seen in the picture provided by someone else, who actually did it). I saw pictures of some larger speakers that Klipsch made using the same drivers. If I was desperate to improve my Heresy's I would build larger enclosures, copying whatever Klipsch did. I say this as a woodworker, there are other "Super Heresy" ideas that involve the electronics. But if all I had was a table saw and some plywood I would upsize he cabinets and make the motor board thicker, or make the back really thick (like 1.5") and run braces from the now really stiff back to the motor board. With the current price of plywood it may be better to just buy used Cornwalls.
I plan on bracing a pair of Heresy speakers, but I plan on cutting new half inch plywood backs to brace and leave the originals as they were made so that I don't change/destroy what Klipsch designed. Plywood is still relatively cheap, you can also use a piece of 3/4 and let it stick out the back to stiffen the back too, then use a 1/4 inch round over bit so soften the edges and then use the original backs for transfer the holes for the screws (use longer screws or counter bore for the original ones). just a thought...
Gary
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I've been away on and off for a week, It has been tough to give folks a window to come and listen. I should be around starting this upcoming Sunday and I hope to show the two pair that are left then. I will then decide if the last pair is available or not (if a pair is sold) at that time. I took a couple pictures this morning of the lacquered birch front k-horns (KD-FR on the tag label).
Gary
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On 6/3/2021 at 9:05 AM, Bulkogi said:
Those are beautiful, Gary! I'll do the same! By the way, are your risers also in Oak, but stained darker? Mine are birch and I'm thinking of staining the risers a dark chocolate for the contrast.
This topic has the gist of what I did but is a more recent build. The risers are made of Brazilian cherry (left over flooring from a friends new house). I have never used stain, I use wood that I like the color of, its tough to scrape through the stain if its not there to show the scrape, dig or gouge.
The risers are not (NOT) the ones in the picture I posted here but they are built in the same manor. I tried to use the same taper cutting jig but it was damaged beyond use so I built another.
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After I finished sanding and spraying a couple coats of urethane I papered and taped off the exterior of both cabinets so that the only thing exposed was the motorboard ( there was already overspray on the interior of the cab from the factory) and used a can of spray black lacquer.
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I spent some time on Sunday afternoon setting up the birch front K-horns (the ones on the moving dollies in the above photo) so that they can be auditioned. I still need to do some work but the sound wont change.
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Laurie called this morning and we had a nice chat. From our conversation, these speakers were his late brothers. It seems that when his brother found something that he liked, he made sure that he had a spare or two, maybe more. I can relate to that line of reasoning. From his description of these speakers, it is something that if you want some nice unmolested original Klipsch products get in touch with him. Laurie sounded genuine and not a trash-talker. This observation is from a 10 minute phone call, I may not get it all right but I rarely get it all wrong. Call him yourself if you don't believe me. I have his number...
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The pair of fir raw (photo above) left yesterday. So one gone and one or two to go. I have given prices over the phone, I think they are fair and the first buyer did too. The other folks I have spoken with seem to think that my prices are reasonable. If any of you want a price call me and I'll give you them, I kind of think, it keeps the tire kickers out of the air. In the last year and a half, I have not seen many K-horns on the market, I look mostly in the New England, New York, New Jersey area. There seems to be a pent up demand and inflation also seems to be on the rise. It is likely that I'll be selling the Corn Clone bass bin cabinets and heresy's but for now I need some space back. My tinnitus seems to be worse and the way I listen to music does not help it.
Gary
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So far have had 3 calls and Chris is coming up from NYC to look at the Raw fir KC-FR Khorns (the picture posted above). Adam was also interested but has issues with size and placement. John called at 4:30 yesterday afternoon and said he would like to take a look but didn't like todays weather so may be able to make it next Sunday. The third pair may have to go too if there is enough interest.
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Just put these on craigslist, maybe it belongs in for sale but I think it will get better exposure here. Two of three pairs are going to leave my house. I can help with delivery with in reason or much more money if further than 50 miles. I still have too much stuff so with the coming of summer more will go.
https://boston.craigslist.org/sob/ele/d/scituate-klipsch-klipschorn/7336924682.html
The ad on craigslist expired and the mail to renew the ad is lost some place in google mail land. This is unfortunate as I still have two pairs left.
Anyhow if you are interested in looking at them give me a call at 781 206-0129
Thanks to all
Gary
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22 hours ago, Woofers and Tweeters said:
The Belle's are stacked inverted on ported Peavey MB-1 cabinets (currently loaded with EVM15's), I have too much stuff so some sacrifices are made.
Gary
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The MWM will roll off nearer to 500 (possibly lower), I'm a heathen and just let my center roll off on it's own. I Only use one of the Heresy speakers in the photo, and is used in the center channel, Volume is set lower than the MWM. The other Heresy and the H700's are just there as storage space is always tight. I sure some one will be along to answer your question that is better informed than me, I am just in this hobby for fun of it...
Gary
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9 hours ago, Staples said:
I'm the seller. These are not decorators. They are standard Cornwall I. I just don't have the grills on in the pics.
I stand corrected, I guess I should have noticed the motorboard is recessed
As for the heresy, I messed up - it happened to be in the same directory that I copied the other photos to.
I'll get my coat...
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No water stains but these were spattered with some kind of oil (maybe bacon fat). Anyhow, they are now presentable and after trying some cheap no name type of caps I ended up re-soldering the original caps (never remover them) and they sound pretty nice, they may sound better with new, but that can wait for a while.
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https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/ele/d/salem-1984-klipsch-cornwall-and-veneer/7266681229.html
They still show up from time to time locally. Sold mine for $800 and mine were CWL - I'm not in the market anymore
The ad from craigslist...
1984 Klipsch Cornwall I and veneer - $750 (Salem, MA)
There are multi-items to this listing which I prefer to try to sell together for maximum value for both you and me. Cash only, pick-up by you but I will help get it into your vehicle. This are available to try out in a backroom of the house with a separate entrance. Mask required.
To summarize what I write below, this listing is for:
1) 1984 Cornwall I speakers with cabinets that are in fair condition but need a few more wood filler repairs to make them a good base for veneering
2) Figured Walnut Veneer sufficient to cover the speakers and already cut for to create a waterfall, bookmatched look
3) New linen grill cloth
4) Crossovers rebuilt with Crites caps
5) Old grill cloth which is still in pretty good shape but the frames are not
6) If it sweetens the deal, then a 4/5 full gallon of heatlock glue for attaching the veneer
7) I can also give you the old riser stands, but they are very beat up and definitely should be replaced vs repaired. However, you can use them for sizing the new ones. New stands would be very easy to build from stock solid wood.
A few years ago I purchased a beat up pair of 1984 Klipsch Cornwall I, painted black. I've stripped the black paint on the outside and have made most, but not all repairs to the dinged up edges and corners with wood putty. A couple of places need more attention.
I repaired the crossovers using the Crites crossover kit. This was necessary due to problems and the speakers sound great and they are set up in backroom so you can try them out. So, original parts for the tweeter, mid-range, and woofer, but rebuilt crossovers.
I purchased several sheets of figured walnut veneer with the intent of making this look similar to a new set of Cornwall III with the Black Walnut. I'm included a picture of the veneer and another of where I was trying to go with this.
I also purchased some lambswool linen fabric to replace the grill fabric and I was going to make new grill frames as the old ones are weak or damaged near the ports at the bottom. I only have one grill badge as shown in one of the pictures.
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I knew the day was coming when I brought the FH-1's into the living room. I guess yesterday I must have bumped into the FH-1 that flanks the entry into the kitchen. I guess I could have gotten some help but I didn't want to wait or bother anyone so it was back to plan A
The risers don't look right - Oh Well...
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My Friend was rummaging around in his uncle's attic and came across this issue of QST
There a couple of nice articles, one on building a 300w input transmitter and the other antenna's
The back cover
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Spring clamps used to secure glue blocks to the cab while the glue dries.
I dug into the fancy plywood for this cab. The cherry ribbon stripe mahogany was on the inner door of the Silvertone hifi I found on the side of the road back in February. I left the factory lacquered finish in place, I didn't even sand with 600 paper I just shot a coat of satin lacquer right over the old and it looks pretty good.
Lacquer still wet.
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This is the middle draw, the blind dovetails didn't work out for this one and I had to rabbit the ends of 2 of the sides.
I used 3 two-inch spring clamps per glue block.
Yesterday was a nice day so the spray gun came out, it was near 70 degrees and real windy, no runs and no bugs, what could be better?
This cab ended up at just under a cubic foot, the one above was closer to one and a third, both on the small side but that's as big as the parts allowed.
Klipschorns south of Boston, Massachusetts
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I believe that would eliminate most of the frequencies above 600 hertz.
That said, I am thinking of selling the mahogany ported big box speakers, I made 4 and am only using 2 at this time. The box volume and port shelf are quite similar to the Cornwall and there are K33 woofers installed.