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Thanks again, Bill. I'll check out the SR5004/6004 receivers. Any comment about the two THX AV receivers that Marantz offers? Are the names of these two THX AV receivers indicative of their being the only Marantz AV receivers that can play THX recorded movies? For that matter, I don't recollect ever seeing THX movies being offered for sale or for rentals. How much "in vogue" are THX recorded movies for use at home? Is it worth considering THX receivers for HT playback, or would money be better spent on getting upgraded DVD players?

Thanks Bill. I want to remember reading somewhere that the Klipsch company (or Mr. Klipsch) recommended not exceeding 100 watts per channel. Did I read correctly about keeping under 100 watts/channel for Heritage speakers ... and why the 100 waltts threshold? I haven't purchased anything yet for my living room music and HT. So, are the two following points correct? (1) If I got the PM8003 to accommodate SA-CD music ... it will only play two channel SA-CD music ... and will only play 2.0 Home Theater (HT). If I wanted to use the PM8003 fo have 3.0 through 5.1 HT playback, I would have hook the PM8003 to a surround processor. And if I were sticking to Marantz components (oranges to oranges), then to use the PM8003 for surround sound, I would have to buy the only AV processor that Marantz sells: The AV8003 pricetag is $2,600. (2) If I did not buy the PM8003, and bought the SR5004 instead ... I would not need to hook the SR5004 to a surround processor. I could use the SR5004 to play SA-CD music in both 2-channel stereo or multi-channel. And I could watch movies in 3.0 through 5.1 HT playback. If both of the above points are correct, then the savings by going with the SR5004 would be significant, if you want to play both SA-CD music and also 3.0 through 5.1 HT. I guess I would have to ask: What's the catch? Meaning, would there be a significant difference in SA-CD music sound quality ... between the PM8003 two-channel system ... and the SR5004 multi-channel system?

Thanks Olorin. To give an idea of the price range for sound systems, following are the Marantz components that I originally targeted for my living room's hi fi stereo. I chose them from the Marantz "Hi Fi Components" page : (1) SA8003 SA-CD player. (2) PM8003 Integrated amplifier. (3) ST7001 AM/FM Stereo Tuner. Would any of the above three components accommodate 3.0 through 5.1 HT? Here is a link to the Marantz products: < http://us.marantz.com/762.asp >. The Marantz website has one page for hi fi ... and two pages for AV components: (a) AV Receivers and ( AV Separates. What is the purpose of advertising the AV Separates page ... separate from ... the AV Receivers page? If I buy only Heritage speakers (Cornwall and Heresy), which require relatively low watts per channel due to efficiency, then should I only be looking at the Marantz AV Receivers page and disregard the Marantz AV Separates page?

Thanks for the info, dtel. Actually, I figured a way to narrow the search. In the Klipsch search window ... type the following minus the quotation marks: "Cornwall AND sideways". It may make a difference, that when typing the word "and" to upper case the word as "AND". There's good information that can be found about vertical Cornwalls, mirror-vision verticals, the Klipsch logic for stopping the mirror-vision verticals, and the basic understanding that all Cornwall versions can be played upright or on its side. In all the threads that can be found from the above search, it was stressed on the importance of having the horns at ear-level. I apologize for the continuing questions, and still would like to hear input from those who have their Cornwalls on their sides. I will try all geometrical options as you kind responders have advised, but it will be an adventure moving the pair of pine buffets from one side of the house to the other. Nothing that a hot bath won't cure, I suppose. And here's one question, that I've yet to see anyone ask, so can anyone anwer this question or have actually tried it: Would there be any issues in placing Cornwalls ... upside down ... if they are going to be played three feet above the floor ... with the logic of having the horns close to ear level (while sitting)? To play the Devil's advocate, you could get a Cornwall closer (and more centered) to the wall corners than you could if the Cornwalls were on their side, from a table-top that is three feet above the floor.

Hello, I'm Steve and I'm ... home theater challenged. Wait a minute ... this is the home theater anonymous meeting, isn't it? I've been planning a simple stereo setup that can also suffice as a two channel home theater (HT) setup. So, I knew I would not have to be very nitpicky when choosing an integrated amplifier, as long as it could play two channels for a pair of L/R speakers. I now see the music & HT setup morphing soon to a L/C/R (3.0) ... with a pair of Cornwall 3's and one Heresy 3. Quite possibly in the not too distant future, I may want to expand to a 5.0 ... with a pair of Cornwall 3's and three Heresy 3's. When targeting for an integrated amplifier, I only had two channel playback in mind. The Marantz PM8003 looks very promising, to be married up with the Marantz SA8003 SACD player, for two channel stereo music. My question is, if I buy the Marantz PM8003 for two channel today ... and decide to engage a center channel for my HT ... would the PM8003 be able to accommodate 3.0 HT setups? For that matter, can the PM8003 handle all the following HT setups: 2.0, 2.1, 3.0, 3.1, 5.0, 5.1? If the PM8003 can handle all the above six HT setups (2.0 thru 5.1), how can you tell that it can handle all these, when reading the PM8003 literature at the following link? < http://us.marantz.com/Products/2570.asp > Steve

Hello. I'm trying to read comments from Klipsch audiophiles, who have Cornwalls that are positioned on their side. Because the desired spot for Cornwalls in my home would be three feet above the floor, it would be reassuring to hear from others who have found it necessary, to place their Cornwalls on their side, so that the mid-range horns are at ear-level (when sitting). The theads about "vertical Cornwalls" are a moot point, as these are no longer made. I tried just doing a search with the word "Cornwall" on the Klipsch forum, but got thousands of hits. How best to conduct a search on the Klipsch forums, to read from those who have experience with Cornwalls that are positioned on their sides? Along with advice about how to search on Cornwalls positioned on their sides, I would appreciate feedback from those who have their Cornwalls on their sides. It would help us to know why you have them on their sides, and the net result to the sound quality. Steve

Hello. Working on an idea to place a pair of Cornwall III speakers on either side of an 18 foot wall. Centered between the speakers is a fireplace that will not be used. For aesthetics and to maximize floor space usage, I'm planning on having the speakers sit (sideways like a "vertical Cornwall") on top of a pair of pine buffets. Here are the dimensions of each buffet: 36" H x 60" W x 19" D. In order to increase the WAF, of replacing our tiny home theater (HT) Bose speakers with the Cornwalls, I was thinking of building an audio/visial cabinet that I can set our 52 inch widescreen television on. The cabinet would flushed against the front of the fireplace. It would need to be low to the ground ... so that the height of the television ... plus the height of the HT cabinet's middle column of (a tri-column cabinet) stays under the fireplace mantle that is 45 inches above the area where the HT cabinet would go. The television is attached to a stand, and considering the size of the television, the footprint of the television is relatively small, so there should be no problem with the television stand being wider than the middle column of a tri-column HT cabinet. The tri-column cabinet can be as wide as 85 inches. To further increase the WAF, I would like to use the same pine material that the buffets were made with. The buffets are built like a tank with 1.75 inch slabs of pine, so it would be nice to build a HT cabinet with 1.75" pine. Then I could stain the cabinet to match the pine buffets. But if the 1.75 inch thickness for an HT cabinet would be counter-productive for any efficiency reasons, such reasoning would be very useful to know. Maximum HT shelving could be possible if I built a tri-column cabinet: The middle column, where the television stand would go, could have just one shelf in order to keep the television below the fireplace mantel. The Left & right columns could have two shelves, as long as the left & right columns remain underneath the left & right edges of the television. I would rather have a simple design, possibly with a bookshelf quality, and to not use glass encasement of the hi fi equipment. My reason being to allow heat dissipation. Another reason is to have the HT cabinet match a possible construction of a large bookshelf for one of the living room walls, that is made of the same pine material as the buffets and HT cabinet. WAF Strategy: Honey, I'll build you a bookshelf if I can have some Cornwalls ... I could describe to a carpenter, the dimensions of the HT components that need to be shelved, so that the carpenter has an idea of how wide, high, deep the shelves need to be. But I'm wondering if there are existing "blueprints" that are available that are more explanatory for the carpenter? Are there websites that give step-by-by procedures, and recommendations to follow, when building HT cabinets? Along with suggested websites, are there building tips that this forum can provide, when building an HT cabinet that will accommodate your stereo and your HT electronic equipment? For example, the cabinet I have in mind will have five cells: Two on the left column, One on the middle column, Two on the right column. Each cell would be dedicated to storing one stereo or HT electronic device such as a tuner, pre-amp, DVD player, turntable. I'm assuming that the sizes of the stereo equipment would not fluctuate that much down the road, but I don't know about size fluctuation for DVD players. Maybe have the middle cell the biggest of the five, for the DVD player? For another example: The cells should be big enough to allow easy access and to make it easy to clean the area, since dust would get into the open-designed cabinet cells. Your building tips for a five-cell ... three column ... HT cabinet would be appreciated. - Steve It would also be a big help to know how deep an open-shelved HT cabinet should be. Wouldn't it be useful, for the cells to be deeper than the electronics, as far as keeping dust off of them? Steve PS: Click the following for discussion on WAF: < http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/136876.aspx >

Thanks, everyone, for input about Hi Fi stands. The money monster has eaten some of my home theater savings, so I have more time for planning. One thing I'm wondering on whether it's necessary to plan for, is heat build-up inside the A/V stands. For example, last year, I bought a computer desk that allows you to contain your computer inside a closed cabinet door. I kept my computer contained in my desk for a few months, but had to re-position the computer to just sit on the floor, just beside the desk. The reason for removing the computer from inside the desk, was a lot of heat build-up from the computer mini-tower. The links that everyone provided, to a/v stand websites, are giving me great ideas. My new approach is to find a wide (below 85 inches) and low (below 24 inches) cabinet, where I could set my TV on top of the a/v cabinet, and still have the TV below the fireplace mantel. The fireplace mantel is 45 inches above the base of the fireplace chamber, which the a/v cabinet would be positioned. There are some a/v cabinets that are listed on the websites that everyone provided, where the hi fi components would be contained behind glass doors. Are there any concerns about heat build-up. You'll note, that although the OP is about vertical hi fi stands, all the pasted pictures of vertical stands in this thread are of the open design ... the hi fi components are not "sealed" behind glass on these vertical stands. So, the question, is whether there is any concern about heat build-up ... in 85 inch wide and 24 inch high ... from up to five electronic hi fi components ... if these components are sealed behind glass doors?

Hello. Is there a drawing or snapshot, which includes the measurement in inches or centimeters, of all speakers on the face of Cornwall III speakers (behind the grill)? If so, is it possible to paste the drawing or snapshot in this message? I have a need to check for obstruction in front of the speaker positionings, and it would help me to know the distances of the internal speakers from each other on the face of the Cornwall III speakers, and also the distances of the internal speakers to the perimeter of the face of the Cornwall III speakers. Steve

Those are interesting grills on your speakers, muel. How old are your Cornwalls? Also, any particular reason why you have the bottom of your speakers facing away from the center of the room, instead of facing towards the center of the room? Seeing as how you had to hoist those buggers up the mountain with a scaffold, I don't know if you experimented much with the speaker bottoms ... facing away and then towards ... the center of the room. But perhaps we vertical Cornwall wannabes could benefit from your experience if any. If I moved my pine buffets to the left & right corners of my 18 foot wall, in order to place Cornwalls sideways on them, I would not be able to have the Cornwalls at a 45 degree angle ... see the dimensions of the Cornwalls and the buffets in the OP. I could have them at about a 20 degree angle, but that would mean that the front corners furthest from the room-center would be protruding over the front edge of the buffets. I mention this for two reasons: 1. The Cornwall's rear corners closest to the room-center would be close to the 18 foot wall, and the rear corners furthest from the room-center would be about a foot from the 18 foot wall. Would this suggest to the forum whether the bottom of my Cornwalls should point toward or away from the room-center? 2. I believe that Cornwall recommends Cornwalls to be as close to the corners of the room, to have the most bass-enhancement of the Heritage speakers. If I have my Cornwall speakers three feet above the floor, and toed-in about 20 degrees, should I be considering the need of a subwoofer to be added to the two-channel system? Input to the above questions, and advice from those who have either elevated or sideways-positioned Cornwalls, would be appreciated.

Hello. I'll be buying a Marantz SA8003 SACD player, for my living room's home theater & music stereo setup. Both the Marantz PM5003 Integrated Amp, and the Marantz PM8003 Integrated Amp, can be used with the SA8003 SACD player. 1. Anybody familiar with these two Marantz integrated amps, and is there a significant difference in their sound quality? 2. Does the second amp (PM8003) ... having the same number as the SA8003 SACP player ... supposed to indicate that these two are supposed to be purchased together? Originally, I was planning on using a Pair of Heresy III speakers for my two channel (and subwoofer) home theater, and assumed that either of these two Integrated Amps would be fine with the HIII's. However, I'm leaning more and more on getting a pair of Cornwalls for my home theater & music stereo player. 3. How would the Marantz PM5003 and the PM8003 compare, if being used with a pair of Cornwall speakers? Would both of these do justice for a pair of Cornwalls, or should I consider a Marantz "Reference" Integrated Amp? Steve

Please list useful terms that we can list in this thread, so we may learn about audio history and technology. If you list acronyms, please also specify what the acronyms stand for, so the acronyms can be researched. 01-Klipsch … < http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/support/glossary/ > Acoustic … < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic > Analog … < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_recording > Digital … < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_recording > Digital vs Analog … < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_recording_vs._digital_recording > DSD … Direct Streat Digital DTS … Digital Theater System MFSL … Mobile Fidelity WAF … Wife Acceptance Factor

Thanks everyone, for your comments. I googled < Klipsch, "vertical cornwalls" > and got this link: < http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/p/59215/578788.aspx >. This thread gives pretty good information about what I beleive Ave was referring to: the vertical cornwall. Be advised that this thread is about five years old. My eyes are pooped from a long day, but did I read the following two points correctly ... from the above link that I pasted? 1. Cornwalls are not stocked ... they are made when ordered. When you order, you can specify whether you want a "vertical cornwall". 2. When asked if there was a difference in sound quality between the normal Cornwall (and normal Heresy) ... and the "vertical Cornwall" (and vertical Heresy) ... Mr. Klipsch's answer was no. So, if I read the above two points correctly, is it permitted to order your Cornwalls to be built in the "vertical" geometry, so as to have all the internal drivers lower to the surface that the Cornwalls are setting on? And if it is permitted to order your Cornwalls to be built in the "vertical" geometry, is this so much of a standard practice, that Klipsch currently provides lots of vertical Cornwalls to its customers? Please remember the OP's specs: 2-channel system ... speakers at L/R corners of 18 foot wall ... considering having Cornwalls setting on sturdy pine buffets that are three feet high ... primary listening spot is couch that is centered between the speakers and ten feet in front of the 18 foot wall. Would vertical Cornwalls sound better than normal Cornwalls?

Temporary definition, lest I be cast adrift on the ship of 10 links per thread: < http://home.earthlink.net/~joesarno/pictures/BLONDIE2.JPG > I'll clean up future AA directories, if this turns out to be useful to everyone, to minimize thread-size in the directory updates, and so Amy doesn't take me to the wood-shed for excessive links.

Thank you all, for providing input that goes beyond text-book definitions. I'm learning very much from this forum. I would like to contribute, while learning, by buiding on the following "AA" list. If I see acronyms that I either don't know or think would be a good addition to the AA list, I'll add them to the list. I can maintain a Word file of these acronyms & terms, then cut'n'paste an updated list periodically. I'll post this list in the 2-Channel Audio forum, but we can also add acronyms from the other forums such as the Home Theater forum. So, if any audiophiles or newbies have any acronyms you'd like to share, please add them and give your interpretation of them, so I will know where to research the term and provide follow-up links or summarized definitions. Thanks again, RockOn & dtel & Mallette. Acoustic … < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic > Analog … < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_recording > Digital … < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_recording > Digital vs Analog … < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_recording_vs._digital_recording > DSD … Direct Stream Digital DTS … Digital Theatre Systems RIAA … Recording Industry Association of America WAF … Wife Acceptance Factor PS: My wife has approved the above commentary.