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    Belle listening fatigue

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

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    Well, I haven't adjusted the crossovers by attenuating the midrange, but I honestly don't feel I need to now.....i like to switch my components up every now and then...I noticed the brightness was gone once I hooked up my Scott 340a...i wasn't experiencing any listening fatigue....

     

    I was getting most of my listening fatigue using my scott 299b...

     

    I noticed that the 299b has 2 Mag Low phono inputs....i was noticing the brightness using the Mag Low 2 input....i switched to the Mag Low 1 input, and the brightness isn't nearly as bad...it depends on the recording of the album I'm listening to..

     

    .there was a lot more gain with the Mag Low 2- I only needed to turn the volume to 3 or 4 to achieve the listening levels I like. It really puts the midrange up front and sounds great, but it's just too much after a while....

    with the Mag Low 1 input, I have to turn the volume up to 5 or 6 to get to the same level- the midrange isn't as pronounced, but I can listen for much longer. I do feel that some of the midrange magic is lost though, using this input....

    am I using the right phono input for my scott 299b? I feel like there's a tradeoff going from one input to the other...honestly, why are there two low inputs?

     

     

     

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    Belle listening fatigue

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    Wow, thanks for the replies! I don't plan on purchasing anything really until we get our basement remodeled...my listening area is certainly an issue right now...it's clustered....we're knocking out a wall to open up the basement, which will give my speakers room to breathe and some much needed space... Right now my speakers are almost 7 ft apart horn to horn, theyre both facing straight ahead...i don't have the room to toe them in much...I'm about 12 ft away listening....one good corner...Thats probably one of the main issues right now....i have a subwoofer in the way of my listening area and a recliner as well...my basement will get thicker carpeting on the floors after the remodel...i can't afford much more for soundproofing...ceilings are 8 1/2 feet tall
     
    I will try replacing the washers on the midrange drivers, and make sure the screws and everything are tight and secure with the horns....As far as the drivers, maybe they're in need of replacing? I see Bob crites is selling a new driver A-55g that looks interesting...what kind of changes to to the sound of my speakers would i get upgrading to these drivers? Would it take some of the harshness out? changing to Dean's crossovers from the original ones was a night and day difference...it was an essential upgrade, and money well spent
     
    I have to keep the tweeter horn or midrange horn inside the cabinets because I have cats that hang out on the tops to perch....I will get a hold of you Dean....i can certainly try to adust the crossovers if it's something I can do myself with guidance.......right now, it might be best to dial down the midrange for louder sessions, it's worth a shot....when my wife and I have our baby in January, I'll be listening at lower volumes, so I'll need to be able to bring the midrange back to the way it was originally ...I'm wondering if the fastrac horns would make lower listening sessions less enjoyable....
     
    Marvel and Chris, I'm confused about the digital crossover? Is this difficult to setup, I think this would be too complicated for me....I'd like to keep the Belles looking the same, keeping any horns or upgrades in the cabinets...
     
     

    Belle listening fatigue

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    No, I don't think he did, but I also never asked him to....I'm certainly not very technologically savvy when it comes to my audio hobby, but I do know how I hear....i have a feeling that the genre of music I listen to certainly doesn't make it any easier on my speakers or my ears....I've heard of people knocking down the mids by 3db with their crossovers, but I wouldn't know how to do it myself with mine...i also know that going the fastrac route would cost a pretty penny, but I have equipment to sell if that's the right route for me to go

    Belle listening fatigue

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

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    Well, my klipsch belles are from 1979, and I've had them for over a year now, and they are my main speakers for two channel....i had Cornwall iiis before that, and while I loved them, they always sounded like a Heresy III speaker, in a bigger box, with better bass...they use the same midrange horn, and I always felt the cornwall III had an undersized midrange horn for such a large speaker, and it lacked detail, not only in movies, but in music on vinyl records as well...i honestly preferred my forte Is over the cornwall III in movies and music with that k53 horn....i feel the forte Is size is better suited and balanced for that particular midrange horn....needless to say, I sold my cornwalls iiis to get the belles and I kept the forte Is...i guess i was hoping it would be an upgrade for my listening tastes
     
    The Belles are definitely a different speaker (seriously more detailed and up-front)....i used my scott 340a and 299b, and I've never experienced as much listening fatigue with the cornwall III or forte I's as I do with these belles....i listen to rock, heavy metal, blues, etc....I'm looking at building a tuba horn loaded sub for the belles to get some lower bass later down the road..i recently upgraded the crossovers to type AA with Jupiter Caps from aletheia audio...it certainly made the sound smoother and way more detailed (they're awesome), but I still experience listening fatigue....
     
    I listen to a lot of vinyl with the Belles, at just over 85db, and I swap between two turntables....my main turntable is a rega rp3, fitted with a dynavector 10X5 MC cartridge...it sounded incredibly detailed and rocked with the cornwall iiis...with the belles and its new crossovers, it's still too bright, yet exceptionally detailed....with my second turntable, it's my dad's Bang &Olufsen Beogram 4002, which uses a MM cartridge....i really like it as I don't experience the listening fatigue or harshness as bad, but it's definitely not as detailed as the dynavector on my rp3....
    I'm wondering if getting Dave's fastrac midrange horns for my Belles would fix the listening fatigue I experience with my dynavector 10 X 5...i would like to keep the detail intact with my belles without experiencing listening fatigue with my belles at louder volumes...
     
     
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    Price of marantz 8b

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    Maybe I could look at something that uses el34 tubes or kt88...i just don't have the opportunity to listen to a bunch of different amps and receivers where I live, so I'm stuck having to read about everything in forums...there's little said about the newer tube amps, and a lot about vintage...that's what peaked my curiosity on the marantz...

    Price of marantz 8b

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    Hey guys, I absolutely love my scott 340a and it will always be in my main setup...i also have a Scott 299c restored by craig that I use on my klipsch fortes...i like to swap that with my marantz 2275 just for fun and a different sound with solid state...i essentially have restored vintage gear and I love every bit of it and am totally satisfied....

    I guess I like to try different things, and I'm still new to tubes...yes, I feel that the marantz 8b is going to be too much money for me in the long run, especially if I pay what most sellers are asking, and getting a restoration done and finding a preamp....i like the idea of finding something integrated, rather than seperates, because I'm running out of room in my audio room

    I'm just curious what people think is comparable to the marantz 8b, whether old or new...maybe I can start looking at some of the newer tube gear...i guess i just love that vintage look :)

    Price of marantz 8b

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

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    I have yet to hear a marantz 8b, which is why I'm hesitant to pay the premium price...all I know is that I love my scott 340a with my belles :) and that makes me want to check out other flavors of tube gear

    Thing you have to realize is stepping into a 8b is not a singular endeavor. The 8b's actual performance will be hugely effected by what you use to drive/control it...it requires some type of preamplifier. It also will not fair well with passive it needs a real preamplifier..once you go there you have to find one that plays well with the 8b..IMHO the only real reason to buy an 8b is if you can get a deal on one...other wise you going to spend some serious cash just to try something...not everyone is as lucky as Thebes!

    Hey Craig, thank you very much for the response...yeah, getting a nice preamp that pairs well is going to be the kicker for me, and I'll probably have to look for a more affordable option....if I purchased the model 8b, I was going to use the preamp section of my marantz 2275 receiver, that I had completely restored by Paul hovenga...it's not meant to be a dedicated preamp, so I'm not sure if it would suffice as a solution, until I get the money for a nice preamp....I'm guessing I would need a tube preamp? Solid state may not be an ideal match I'm thinking....

    Oh, I wanted to say thanks for restoring my 340a! I absolutely love it...my first dip into tubes

    Price of marantz 8b

    in 2-Channel Home Audio

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    Ive been looking at getting one of these for a while now to use with my Belles....i was wondering what a good price would be for one in a decent condition?...i can always get my own tubes...i just don't want to overpay without knowing what these tube amps go for $$$....i plan on getting it restored if I purchase one...thanks,

    Chad

    M1HPA, Marantz sr8002, and B&k 6 channel amp prices reduced again

    in Garage Sale

    Posted · Edited by hcnelly

    Marantz sr8002 with all the original packaging in great shape $350 + shipping + PayPal

    B&K reference 200.2 great condition Sold!

    B&K 6 channel at 125 watts per channel great condition $400 + shipping + paypal

    I can post pics if anyone is interested in these items....i can also give the specifics on those b&k amps....i just have to get the owners manuals...everything listed is boxed up

    M1HPA, Marantz sr8002, and B&k 6 channel amp prices reduced again

    in Garage Sale

    Posted · Edited by hcnelly

    Sold!

    The serial number of this speaker is on the box and I took a picture of it. Unfortunately, it didn't come with the sticker on the back of the speaker with the serial number. I wasn't happy with that when I got the speaker, about 4 years ago, but it's a Heresy III for sure. All the insides are great and the speaker sounds identical to an A Stock Heresy III.

    The riser it came with is the correct walnut veneer. I used it in the pictures side by side so you can see the difference in color. The speaker's veneer is definitely different so it's easy to see why it was B Stock. I also tried to get close ups of the scratches due to my cat. Let me know if you have any questions

    Chad

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