VegasShawn

The biggest problem of Best Buy starting to sell Klipsch speakers is the "ego-factor". Some people take a great deal of pride in NOT buying things from places like Best Buy. It gives the purchaser a certain sense of "pride" when someone comes over to your house and you have a set of speakers you had to go to a "high-end" store to purchase. It makes some people feel that they have indeed bought a quality item that's not "available to the masses". It implies that the owner actually spent time to shop around for speakers instead of just picking whatever sounded the best from Best Buy. Now, when someone comes to you house, "Hey, are those the same speakers they sell at Best Buy??! Those sound AWESOME!" "No, these are the ones you can't get at Best Buy. Best Buy sells an inferior version of the Klipsch line." Now, you're the a-hole that's too good to buy Klipsch at Best Buy and you had to spend the extra money for who-knows-what. Also, you have made the person who asked you about the speakers feel like and idiot "How DARE you imply that *I* bought speakers from BEST BUY"

I guess my RP-3's aren't old enough to be needing upgrades?? I thought the name of this forum was 'UPGRADING' older speakers? Should it be called 'FIXING AND/OR REPLACING' older speakers'? The main reason I wanted to look into the possibility of upgrading the subwoofer driver was because it does seem to bottom out pretty easily at the levels that I normally listen to. At what point is upgrading OK? Wouldn't thinking about changing the subwoofer driver to something more modern be considered upgrading?

Since I have my RP-3s apart from having to send my amplifiers back to Klipsch for replacement..... I was wondering if I could upgrade the 10" subwoofer in each of them? I am thinking of getting a seperate subwoofer. Would it be possible to go replace my woofers with the ones from the RF-7 speakers? I am thinking this might make the speakers, as a whole, more 'musical' since the need for really low bass could be handled by my seperate subwoofer now? Am I crazy for thinking this? Would the 10" woofer from the RF7's be a good match? Another idea I had would be to take the driver from an RSW-10 subwoofer and upgrade that way. Thanks in advance for any ideas. This message has been edited by VegasShawn on 03-09-2002 at 01:15 PM

Yes, the pre-out for the front speakers....

I understand what you are saying. Really. I'm not trying to argue. Here is the problem a little more clearly: PROBLEM: If I use the clips on my right speaker, it doesn't matter what I do with any other inputs, my receiver turns itself off. If I ONLY use the speaker wire with the clips installed, my receiver turns itself off. If if DON'T use the clips, everything is fine, but I need to use the additional LINE-IN functionality for the subwoofer to work, since my speaker wire is connected ONLY to the HI input.

Well, here is my problem. This is the ONLY way I could get one of my speakers to work at all! If I JUST used the speakers wires with the clips ON, with nothing plugged into either the line-in or sub-in is when I got the problems. Here is what the manual says about my setup (This is the official manual from the Klipsch website): "LINE IN This input is only used to drive the powered subwoofer portion of your RP-3 or RP-5. Using this connection will generally result in improved clarity and definition in the bass. This input should be con-nected to a non-filtered (full range) subwoofer or main channel pre-amp output on your electronics. Note: If you use a mono subwoofer output to feed both left and right subwoofers, any stereo bass infor-mation will be reproduced as a mono signal. When using this input, remove the gold metal coupling straps that join the two pairs of binding posts and connect your speaker cable only to the HIGH IN speaker terminals. The LINE IN input must not be your only connection to the speaker. This input can also be used in conjunction with the LFE input described below." "LFE IN (optional) This input is used with the newest 5.1 (six channel) surround sound systems. The LFE channel contains bass effects information that is different than the bass signals present in the other channels to enhance the soundtracks impact. The LFE IN input on the RP-3 and RP-5 requires a low pass filtered signal (high frequencies removed) from your electronics subwoofer or LFE output. Do not connect this input to a full range (unfiltered) pre-amp output. The peak level of this signal can be up to 10 decibels louder than main channel bass signals, so caution should be exercised when connecting to this output and initially adjusting the BASS CONTOUR control. The LFE IN must not be the only connection to the speaker. The SPEAKER IN and LINE IN connections are the primary hookups. The LFE IN is compatible with either line level or speaker level connections." SO, according to the Klipsch Manual, this should be perfect, right? According to the manual, the LINE-IN is "filtered" internally in the speaker. I guess that is why it says you can use "or main channel pre-amp output on your electronics." and "The LINE IN input must not be your only connection to the speaker." This message has been edited by VegasShawn on 09-18-2001 at 12:19 PM

Here is a pic to help explain what I am talking about. According to the Klipsch manual, both the LFE-IN and LINE-IN control the only the powered subwoofer. SO, in this case, I am setting my speakers in my receiver to LARGE. By doing this, my recevier will NOT send any signal through the SUB line that is NOT LFE-Related, like from DVD or whatever. SO, I take the clips off and use the speaker wire on the HIGH terminals. I do this because this is the way the manual states to do it. The LFE should only get used for 5.1 applications like DD or DTS when I play a DVD, or with DD on my Satellite. I just want to make sure that this hookup is ok and that noone sees a problem with it.

Yeah, you gotta get the DVD version of the music. I haven't heard the CD, but the DVD in DTS is pretty amazing.

Yup, did all that! It's just the one speaker that is causing the problem. I did try to hook my speaker wires to just the LOW input terminals and go no sound whatsoever from the speaker, but the receiver did not turn itself off! Sounds like there is something going on inside of the speaker that I can't see. Maybe something got wired up wrong by accident behind the terminals..? It sounds like maybe someone got their positive and negatives mixed up with the back of the terminals and their wiring maybe

Yeah, checked everything over and over again.. I probably went through this 20 times. It didn't matter if the speaker was set to ON/AUTO/OFF, my receiver just kept clipping itself off. All I did was unhook my SF1's, and hook up the RP3's. Really didn't do anything on the receveir at all. Oh well, it's working fine the way I have it, just seems funny though.

I wired my speakers up like this, because I had a problem with using the clips with my Yamaha RX-V1000 (Another post in troubleshooting...ANYWAYS) This is what I did, and it sounds just fine. Just want to make sure it's ok. Yamaha RXV-1000 Receiver. Front Speakers set to Large (Does NOT use SUB-OUT when set to this.) Speaker wire hooked to "HIGH" speaker level input, clips removed between high and low speaker inputs. LINE-OUT to LINE-IN on RP'3s for low frequency, NON-LFE music like CD's, etc. SUB-OUT to SUB-IN using a monster cable Y-Connector. This in theory only gets used when I play a DVD since I have LFE set to my subwoofer in the receiver. According to my Yamaha manual, if you set your front speakers to SMALL, anything under 70hz gets sent through the subwoofer output, but if you set them to LARGE, it will just send everything through the mains. So what I end up with is this: CD Music - Highs through speaker wire and lows through line-input DVD w/LFE - Highs through speaker wire, NON-LFE low frequencies through line-input and LFE signals to SUB-Input. Anyone see any problems with this?

I picked up a pair of RP-3's on clearance today and am having a problem with one of the speakers. Since the RP3's have dual speaker-level inputs for b-wiring, they come with these clips to span between the terminals if you are NOT bi-wiring. Anyways, with one of the speakers, everytime I turned on my receiver, it would turn itself off again. From what I understand, my Yamaha does this to protect itself from getting screwed up. I didn't have this problem with my SF-1's. Now, if I take the clips off and just use my speaker wire on the "HIGH" speaker level inputs, everything works fine.. Could there be a problem with the terminals on my speaker? I was able to solve the problem by using the line-out on my Yamaha to the line-in on the RP3's to handle the low frequencies, and then using the regular speaker wire on the "High" speaker level input. That seems to work just fine. This is a method of hooking them up that is described in the manual anyways. It just seems weird to me that I cannot hook the speakers up more 'conventionally'. It's really weird.. Sometimes it would work for 5-10 seconds, other times if would just turn itself off immediately after turning on.