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I figured it was something like that, like Yamaha set it up so I couldn't make my center channel too brassy. Speech sounded okay through it for the most part, but unfortunately there are other sounds that come through the center channel besides the human voice. When a sound went, for example, left, center, right, it always seemed to fade off when it hit the center. It was never a setting on the EQ or the gain. I spent hours making sure they were set as accurately as can be. I went through my manual and menus on the Yamaha at least 5x thinking there was some sort of setting I was missing. Unfortunatley there was NO setting to be had on mine, it was factory preset and I could do nothing to change it (well, except sell it and get my Pioneer). Thats pretty poor engineering in my book. It's left such a bad taste in my mouth I swore I'd never buy another Yamaha again! In the end all that matters is the Klipsch speakers now sound great together and I've got a solid foundation to build an amazing system around!

I finally figured out my problem with a good bit of experimentation. What helped me figure it out was when I set the RC-64 and an RF-83 directly next to one another and hooked up only the tweeter of each. I then hooked up the RC-64 as a right channel and the RF-83 as a center and voila, the RF-83 is now muddy and the RC-64 was bright and crisp! Therefore it was obvioulsy the output of my Yamaha receiver. However, it was purchased brand new and the EQ was set properly. I can only assume it was set from factory that way, why I am not sure. I picked up a Pioneer VSX-1121-K and it sounds AMAZING! Not to mention, there is plenty of adjustment left on the EQ unlike the Yamaha in which all the high frequencies were cranked up and I still wasn't happy with the sound. If any other Yamaha receiver owners are having a similiar problem with your center channel not sounding as crisp as your fronts, perhaps you should upgrade your receiver. You won't believe the difference!!

I finally figured out my problem with a good bit of experimentation. What helped me figure it out was when I set the RC-64 and an RF-83 directly next to one another and hooked up only the tweeter of each. I then hooked up the RC-64 as a right channel and the RF-83 as a center and voila, the RF-83 is now muddy and the RC-64 was bright and crisp! Therefore it was obvioulsy the output of my Yamaha receiver. However, it was purchased brand new and the EQ was set properly. I can only assume it was set from factory that way, why I am not sure. I picked up a Pioneer VSX-1121-K and it sounds AMAZING! Not to mention, there is plenty of adjustment left on the EQ unlike the Yamaha in which all the high frequencies were cranked up and I still wasn't happy with the sound. If any other Yamaha receiver owners are having a similiar problem with your center channel not sounding as crisp as your fronts, perhaps you should upgrade your receiver. You won't believe the difference!!

Bill, I am only currently running the Yamaha RX-V1065 receiver to power all speakers. This has a built in EQ which the all highs of the RC-64 are maxed out to +6 and the RF-83's are only at +3 at the most, and still I have considerably more highs from the 83's.

Hey everyone! I just picked up an RC-64 to accommodate my RF-83's. I noticed a considerable difference in the highs of the two. The RF-83's are extremely crisp and while the RC-64 sounds very good, the higher end highs are not nearly as prominent as they are in the 83's. So far I changed the channel each speaker is on (put an RF-83 as center and RC-64 as a front), and still the RF-83 sounded much crisper. Therefore it's not my amp or the source (I am running a Yamaha RX-V1065). I also went as far as to take each speaker apart and actually swapped the tweeters from one speaker to the next. Same result, the RF-83's were still much crisper. Therefore it's not the tweeter itself. I am also 100% sure the RC-64 tweeter is functioning. I am thinking the difference has to lie in the crossover network. The RF-83's high frequency crossover is listed at 1650 Hz, while the RC-64 is listed as 1150 Hz and 1800 Hz. As a result, I am considering changing crossover network in the RC-64. My question is would putting an RF-83 crossover network in my RC-64 potentially harm it? Would any other crossover be a better fit? Any other suggestions whatsoever are extremely appreciated! Thank you all in advance!!

I'm experiencing a very similiar problem. The RF-83's are extremely crisp and while the RC-64 sounds very good, the higher end highs are not nearly as prominent as they are in the 83's. So far I changed the channel each speaker is on (put an RF-83 as center and RC-64 as a front), and still the RF-83 sounded much crisper. I also went as far as to take each speaker apart and actually swapped the tweeters from one speaker to the next. Same result, the RF-83's were still much crisper. I am thinking the difference has to lie in the crossover network. The RF-83's high frequency crossover is listed at 1650 Hz, while the RC-64 is listed as 1150 Hz and 1800 Hz. Therefore I am considering changing crossovers. My question is would putting an RF-83 crossover network in my RC-64 potentially harm it?

The cheapest Ive found otherwise is a new one ebay, $390 free s&h. There are also a couple used for a bit over $300 that have some cosmetic damage. Seems like holding out for this price to drop is the wise move.

It's up to $499.99 shipped. Still a half price of MSRP. Do we hold out for it to drop to $300 again or pounce on it for $500?