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I didn't read the whole thread, but before you buy check out the online authorized dealers found here. I just bought a 7.1 system and contacted each of them that had what I was looking for to find the best deal. What I found beat the prices on amazon by far. After doing that, see if there are any local dealers anywhere near you to see if they are willing to price match or even beat the price. My local dealer came down about $900 from when they first quoted me after I found way better deals online. They didn't even charge me tax so they could beat the online dealer's price. So basically my advice is, shop around, your wallet will thank you. I even upgraded some of the speakers I was getting because since I found a way better price, I could afford to. I got the system in my sig (minus the onkyo) for $3135, and that looks like about your budget. I got quoted online for $3180. I also got quoted the same package with the SW-115 for $3000.
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Watching TRON now, and I have to agree it sounds pretty good.
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That looks pretty sweet. If I didn't already have a harmony, I'd look more into this. I'll have to remember it tho for when I get my bedroom set up down the road. Might make it so I get more use out of the iPad =^P
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Ah ok, removing the post makes sense. I didn't read that far in the manual since I wasn't bi-amping =^P
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^^^Most of everything that I read says to use PCM to get the lossless signals if present on the BD. Using bitstream you don't get the menu sounds and all that either. I dunno, it's a bit confusing, but if you set it to PCM you can check in the menu on the PS3 to see what is being output so basically all your AVR is doing is sending it to the the proper speakers. From what I've read, I'm keeping it linear PCM. The only benefit I saw of using bitstream was that you can see the format on the AVR.
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This seems to be the definitive answer I was looking for and explains why my AVR just defaults to multichannel: With the PS3 specifically, this is how it breaks down...
If the PS3 setting is set to "Linear" it will decode the lossless audio (Hi-Def audio which is 6 times more detailed than ANY AUDIO TRACK on ANY DVD) and send it out as a PCM signal (Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD MA, everything!). Now, if you have an HDMI cable running that signal, all is good. You will get the lossless audio no porblems so long as your receiver can handle multichannel PCM. If you are using an optical cable, the cable can only handle the PCM signal as a 2.0 stereo signal. Therefore, since the PS3 is sending the lossless audio as PCM, the cable will downmix the signal to 2.0 stereo.
If the PS3 setting is set to "Bitstream" it will not decode anything. It will try to send the signal as is to the receiver so that the receiver can do the work. If an HDMI cable is used, there will be problems. The PS3 cannot bitstream LOSSLESS audio via HDMI cable. It will play the lossless core tracks as their lossy DVD counterparts (Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS 5.1). Likewise, an optical cable will do the same thing... UNLESS THE AUDIO TRACK SELECTED ON THE DISC IS A LINEAR PCM TRACK. Again, that PCM signal will be downmixed to a 2.0 stereo signal.
So, bottom line is, with the PS3 set the audio output to "Linear" when using an HDMI cable. Set it to "Bitstream" when using an optical cable.
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Yep, just checked and it was set to linear PCM. Doing some reading on another forum, it seems if you set it to linear PCM, the player does the decoding so it just passes through the AVR, which is why it just goes to multichannel on my AVR. If you set it to bitstream, the AVR does the decoding which is where you see the other formats show up on the AVR screen. Here is the link to the forum, seems there are a few different opinions: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=24132
It looks like if you have a 7.1 set up, linear PCM is the way to go. I'm getting very confused reading that thread tho, it seems every post says one or the other with no real definitive answers...
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^^^I know there are some youtube videos for that. I guess I'll have to double check my settings to see if I have it on bitstream.
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I was thinking that the multichannel setting was playing whatever was coming from the source. I have an onkyo 706, and any time I turn on the PS3, this is the setting it picks. I usually never change it because I am to understand all those other settings simulate the surround in some way. So I guess I've been doing it correctly, makes senese why it sounds the best.
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I didn't read all the replies, so someone may have already mentioned this...I *just* bought some reference speakers and I highly recommend contacting each of the authorized dealers listed on this site to see what you can get on a package deal. I really think you can knock some serious money off of that price you got there. You may even knock enough off the price to justify going with the larger speakers. With the money I saved, I was able to get everything I wanted and I still spent less than I was expecting to. Do some shopping around, seriously...
p.s. The best price I found was thru audioholics as far as the online dealers. Then my local dealer was willing to beat the price and not even charge me tax so I think I did pretty well on the whole package. I almost paid an extra $900 until I decided to shop around a bit...You may not see these big of savings, but I bought a 7.1 system...
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Whenever I watch a bluray, I usually pick the audio output on the disc, and then whatever the receiver defaults to, which is normally multichannel, is what I usually stick with. Do you have a preferred setting when it comes to watching movies? I played around with them today and there were a couple that sounded pretty good (PLIIx, etc), but I usually end up going back to multichannel because that's what I'm used to. Any suggestions?
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I would say anything from Lucasfilm should be good sound too. They get down on Skywalker Ranch with the audio.
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^^^It's actually quite clear in the manual. It says top row, but you are right, it shouldn't matter either way...
But if you bi-amp, does that just mean you are pushing more power to the whole speaker? I thought the point of bi-amping was to separate the power so lows and highs gets it's own power, but that's not really possible with the bridge strap...eh, I suppose I just answered my own question.
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Owners manual says top row, so that's what I went with...
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Strange...I thought it was Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start.
Baaaaaaaaaahahahhaaahahahaa =^D Awesome.
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Still waiting on mine. It should be here early next week. I found it locally for $600, so I would say in that price range, I'm getting a pretty good sub...
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I know, right? I could have sworn the speaker was working, but I guess it wasn't. I called Onkyo and they had me test the speaker with the white noise, which I didn't think of doing before. The first speaker was the only one not working so it stopped audyssey right away. I messed with the connection and it fired right up. Silly me...
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Ha, it looks like you are in the AVS klipsch thread too. I'm djsoular on there. I'm glad you like it, I can't wait to get mine.
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Awesome. Let me know how it goes =^)
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Crisis averted...I guess I didn't have the speaker wire in right...*der*
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I just tried to run Audyssey on a new speaker setup. The speakers play when the microphone isn't plugged in, but no sound comes out when I try to run the setup. Any ideas what could be wrong? I just ran the setup a couple months ago on a different set of speakers and everything worked fine...I don't get it...
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That's supposed to show up tomorrow from netflix, woohoo.
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Maaaaan I bet that sounds awesome...Anybody know how much kidneys are going for on the black market these days??? =^o
Home Theater Ponderings: 5.1 Receiver, Speakers, Wireless Rear & Woofer
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Re-read my last post, I made an edit to it at the end. So far I am loving my system. It's not all completely set up yet as I still have to get the surrounds mounted to the walls, but I gotta say even tho it's not set up right yet, it still sounds awesome. I'm hearing things in movies that I've never heard before. I can definitely recommend my system. I still need to get everything dialed in, and my SW-115 is still in the mail, but once I get it all set up I'm sure I'm going to love it even more.