WOW what a welcome, I didn't expect all this. Thanks I do feel welcome. I am not a big forum kind of guy so I thought I would give it a try. To answer some questions: Marvel sorry I did not bring donuts, Tarheel I can buy the 1st round but I don't drink I save all my $$$$ to buy stuff that I don't need. Yes derrickdj1 it is a $$money pit so the money I would spend on drinking I buy Klipsch lol... USNRET no I don't have a big wallet, but my significant did find our La Scala's in the local paper 25 years ago, so she is onboard with the Klipsch. I will post some more later, my wife and I just got in from the shop. We own a auto shop, it is just us. Just a side note we JAM-OUT most of the day, we have one set of our KP 360's at the shop they are powerd by a Carver TFM-42 and 2 subs. Yes it is true. Good nite all thanks Mark.....