Pretior

Thanks for the help, I present the mother of all audio dream crushers, on display at a Tweeter near you: http://www.jsp-industries.com/Pages/introhomethea.html My $400 furniture alternative is "Bachelor Industrial". Hey, its a hard room and ppl got to live there. So, do it in this order: 1) furniture, 2) speakers, 3) electronics. I'm moving on with a spring in my step and a smile on my face to the living room for 2 channel! Electronics plan was HK 525 and Panasonic CP72. I have a budget of $2,500 for speakers and wires. The "lay it sideways" option is good, one dealer told me that the tweeter gets sucked in the direction of the woofer, and it was a bad idea. This is the way its got to be, and I look foreward to trashing hardware. Edit: Looks like no way to turn the horn in the new RB-35, based on pics, the horn is integrated into the front. So, How bad will the ref 5 bookshelves be inside the bookshelf?

Everybody is cleaning out the last Panasonic cp72 units, at around $225, less $30 rebate. Seems like nothing comes close for the money. I'm trying to locate one now, no availability at local stores, that's saying something, considering its Panasonic (wide availability, no dis on panny).

Unfortunately, architectural considerations force this decision. Must be in the top box of an entertainment center (closed on 5 sides, fabric door on 6th side). Interior dimensions of the box are 19"w x 20"d x 13.5"h. Bottom of the box is about 4.5' up from floor. Max distance between outsides of the two speakers is 90". This is a big room, 14'x 25' at 9' high. Because of open space, the front wall is only 8' and no corners anywhere, open loft-like design. 5.1 budget (speakers only) will not exceed $2,500, inc wires. 66% music, 33% HT. Are there sealed or front-ported speakers that will work? Is in-wall the way to go (but in-box, not in-wall)? I imagine there is some decent solution that may be non-Klipsch. *What kind of bookshelf mains?* I know very little, but do suspect a bad situation. Thanks for your help...

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The "Center Chanel Power Arch" sounds good, but needs some cross-bracing? Maybe a 2" strip under the top will do. I'd go all out and even cut 45 degree angles, spraypaint to match Sony. Got to look see what the furniture ppl are doing on the HT forums, don't have to waste precious electronics budget on furniture!

Not perfect, but not bad. Under the TV, 7" above the floor, tear out back of TV stand-replace with black cloth, back of speaker is 20" from wall, tilt front of center up to hit ears with lazer. On to final steps, wires and DVD player.

Figure out what lens with *optical zoom* you need. Digital zoom has limited value. If you want to take wide angle pics, or macros from 3" away, need to know that up front. In 35mm film, I use 28mm and 50mm fixed lenses, mostly the 28. If you need a 28mm digital equivilant, the choices will be narrow .

This isn't gonna work on top, the flat part of the top isn't 3" deep and the TV sticks out so far from the wall. What do you folks use, sticky tape? I'm a minimalist, with just a rack. Was going with RF-3II @ 4 speakers, RC-3, SVS 20-39 PCi, and Denon 2802. Spent months putting this plan together, only to be foiled by logistics. RC-3 specs: DIMENSIONS (H x W x D): 7.9" (20.1cm) x 22.9" (58.2cm) x 9" (22.8cm) WEIGHT: 29 lbs. (13.18kg)

Can I put heavy Klipsch center on top of 36" Sony, because of weight? Put the center speaker on the shelf below the TV? Buy lightweight Bose or Sony center (Sony is so cute, designs a center that fits an odd triangle shape trough on top)?

StrangeDazed, please help! Think I need to create a 5.1 triangle, but the rears will be parked on my head, with the mains 12' away. This might work: left rear 6' away at 2' back, right rear 6' away at 2' back, sub 3' in front, right&left mains 12' in front (abuting the tv). There is no back wall, yet I can't intrude my gear into the adjacent room. I effectively have a huge space of 1, 1.5 and 2.0 stories, but am not looking to fill it, and don't care about the overflow. With the mains flanking the tv, don't need the center? Monitor interferance issues with mains? Maybe get 2 mains without woofers and a massive sub(2.1)? Maybe start with $1,250 of 2.1? 3.1 sounds really stupid now, next we'll be talkin 3.0, saves money. *OK, I'll fess up. I'm Aerosmith, and want to make big obnoxious noise. To keep the peace, got to cloak this dagger in a nice-sounding "Law & Order" tv experience.* Was thinking a 3.1 field of sound around the tv would do the trick, until a reasonable time passes, and then I buy 2 more mains! This incremental approach did not work for a friend, his wife sent the Klipsch center packing! She was absolutely right though, cause his center overpowered his mains... I need totally non-directional stuff? Klipsh might be the wrong place? This message has been edited by Pretior on 09-17-2002 at 01:28 PM

Would like a good start to HT, $1,500 is speakers only. Initial use will be 40% music, 50% TV, 10% dvd. 12'x 18' room with 9' ceiling. The "room" is open to the whole house, there's really only two walls and no corners, but the acoustics seem good. *The front sound stage is only 6' wide, because of pedestrian and tv placement issues, mains need to abut the tv.* Sit 12' from TV, no possibility of speakers on the side, but 12' of room in the back. This room is clearly audible from everywhere in a large open house. Like subwoofers very much. TV sound is horrible. No audio gear worth salvaging. Is the 3.1 idea good for starters? I could start with 2.0 or 3.0, don't like throwing junk away to replace with slightly better junk. I need conversation level TV sound optomized for the "Law & Order" show, plus house-shaking Led Zep cd sound (I like harsh(brilliant?)sounds). *Maybe buy 2.1 promedia for tv and seperate $1,000 speakers for music?* Tower mains, center should fit in cabinet under 36" tv. Could you please post the initial format (2.0, 3.1, 5.1) and speaker model numbers? Can wire thru bsmt and the limited walls. Willing to accept suggestions like "continue to sit at computer with headphones", or "put a bunch of cubes up on the walls". Thanks, Dazed & Confused This message has been edited by Pretior on 09-17-2002 at 01:02 PM

Thanks. I don't know much and the manual is soo weak. I get the feeling I'm dealing with analog, not digital. We'll see if I can game in 3D audio.

Do I config WinXP with "4 speaker" or "5.1 speaker"? I have SB Audigy Gamer card. I heard that the ProMedia 4.1 Supports 5.1 sound.