Well, I own both Klipsch ProMedia 4.1s/5.1s so I am pretty familiar with Klipsch products. However, I've never been introduced to the HT lines. I usually frequent the 4.1/5.1 sections of the forum so I've been around. Anyhow, He's more of a set it and forget it kinda person...how unfortunate for me cause I'm the one spending all my money to upgrade the many stereos around the house. Anyhow, about those used speaks doug was talking about; any idea on where to find used pairs of speakers that are in good condition? I was looking on ebay and saw a few Heresy I's. They any good? I'd be willing to get him a sub but I don't think his reciever is new enough that it comes with a sub output, so I'd prolly have to get that too...Or at least break the news to him after I got em - heh. Also, he might be interested in the (distant) future to upgrade to 5.1/6.1 sound...He has become more interested in audio since I upgraded my car, my room, my dorm, and his car stereo last Xmas. So who knows what the future holds. I'm guessin I would be better off with References? Do any of the Klipsch Floorstanding speakers come with horn tweeters, mids and side-firing subs all-in-one? Thanks guys.