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If you're still looking the price of the KB-15 bookshelf speakers, like the ones I bought, just dropped to 129.99 on Amazon. KC-25 center is still at 192.00. Ijust had Amazon issue me a partial refund for the KB-15's as the price was higher when I bought them a couple of days ago. I just set them up this evening; KB-15's in front and surround with KC-25 in the center along with my SW-350 sub. I can see where spending more would have gotten me if I had bought more expensive fronts but getting a full house for the price I did, about $450 with the refund, was worth it. They still have plenty of detail, a good soundfield and directionality, and some decent dynamics. Listened to some stereo music, iTunes radio jazz stations and some electronic. The whole system is pretty solid sounding. What I really dig is the ability really hear the, "air" in the recorded material; those higher frequencies that sound like the air in the recording room or on those sensitive mics used to record dialogue on TV shows and film. That level of detail really means something to me. That's where I can see the advantage of putting some extra dollars. As long as you make sure to get something matched I'm sure you'll be very happy. If this helped at all I am please to have been of service!

I've been on the hunt for a while for a HD display for my home theater that is just a monitor; no speakers or tuners of any kind. Just looking for a good HDTV panel with an HDMI input and good controls for display calibration. Does anyone have any experience with finding anything like this? Are they on par, display wise, with their TV cousins or do they sacrifice their visual fidelity for industry? Unfortunately a projector is no option for my usage. Thanks!

Thanks! I actually drew it out that way on paper last night. I'm going to send the sketch to her and ask if we have room for that set up. It would require removing the chair from the room all together, but I'd probably be ok with it. I attached a pic of my sketch, haha. I'm back in Houston now, so I can't do any shifting until I move there in March. By then she'll be used to however it is I'm sure. I'm not sure if this would be ok with one speaker near a corner and the other nowhere near a side wall. See attached. Is it possible to try this: Move the system to the wall on the right of it's position on the sketch so you can use the walls to set them equidistant from the center. Then turn the couches so they form a, "V" facing the tv, creating a triangular seating area. The couches can be moved apart from one another to crate an aisle between them for passage and a low coffee table can be set between them. Another fun idea would be to move the couches closer and build some kind of riser, putting one sofa behind the other and raised like stadium seating.

Ooo, something I can be of value with, having just been in and out of researching this series!! The Synergy system only had one set of bookshelf speakers designed for it in relation to the three separate sizes of floor speakers. They really seemed to to be prioritizing the floor speakers in this line. All of the floor speakers have 1" tweeters, along with one of the 2 sets of surrounds. The bookshelf speakers seem to be meant as part of their own, "smaller" size system with the C-10 and the S-10's; all of which feature the .75" tweeters. The prepackaged system with the B-20's (http://www.klipsch.com/b-20-home-theater-system) comes with the C-10 center. If you're looking into the synergies now, having moved back from thinking about any of the RB series speakers, then you must be in the same boat I found myself in. I ended up settling on a full house of Icon series speakers. They have 1" tweeters, a lower crossover and arguably a more refined aesthetic to them. Prices should be pretty good out there for what you can still find. Do you already have the C-20 or is it something you were looking at? The Icon speakers as I bought them on Amazon may be a little more but you should still be able to get a matched set for a little less than $400.

I saw a video recently detailing the process these Atmos speakers utilize to get the effect and, from what I can gather, it would not be desirable over mounting speakers in the high position or on the ceiling. The Atmos use speakers use iffy filtering and reflections to achieve the effect. It rarely works well over discrete speakers, from what I gather.

Are you saying that, in this context, the crossover system is assuming that a small speaker won't reproduce sound below a certain frequency range so it keeps sending the full range to those speakers along with the LFE and crossover filter signal to the sub? Effectively giving you the full low frequency signal plus LFE channel in the sub while attempting to maximize the small speakers low frequency reach?no I'm saying that when set to small and crossed at say 80hz then full range signal is no longer sent to the small speakers. Only ROUGHLY 80hz and up. Then 80 and below are sent to the subwoofer That sounds more logical to me. I didn't think the other way made sense.

Are you saying that, in this context, the crossover system is assuming that a small speaker won't reproduce sound below a certain frequency range so it keeps sending the full range to those speakers along with the LFE and crossover filter signal to the sub? Effectively giving you the full low frequency signal plus LFE channel in the sub while attempting to maximize the small speakers low frequency reach?

Thanks for your opinions, Scrappy. I am aware of your reputation on this forum as a strong but critical advocate of the products so I appreciate your thoughts. On a tangent, I find it rather disheartening that there seems to be a dearth of critical review on the bookshelf faction of the new Reference line. It's understandable that those who have been in the Klipsch community for a while would know of their heritage and their birth from the Synergy line but for those coming in from the outside it's just strange that it seems no one on a professional review level is looking at them. Everyone has to start from somewhere. Ok, enough of that. It looks like I can get the B-20/C-20 combo for around $370, putting it $120 under the matching Reference line. As I said, there is a slight difference in the size of the tweeter and the Reference lowers the crossover by 425HZ. So they are very close but not quite identical. And those technical quibbles can sometimes be what makes or breaks you. Mostly my issue is that, since the Synergy are older products, I feel compelled to buy all the pieces now whereas with the reference I pay a bit more per speaker but I have the convenience of knowing I can buy the fronts now and hold off on the center for a bit. thanks again for taking the time to listen. I hope I can be of value to this community in the future!

My apologies if this has been covered in one of the other threads but I could not find the information I was searching for. I currently own a set of the Synergy Quintet III speakers with a SW-350 sub. Right now they are placed in a small living room and focused into a roughly 5x5 listening area which is slightly trapezoidal as the surrounds are on either side of a lightly larger than 6ft sofa. We are running the whole thing off of a new Onkyo TX-NR636 receiver and watch a lot of Blu-rays and Netflix via Apple TV, all over HDMI of course. The room is untreated and has book cases, action figure displays, windows and a large opening into the hall and kitchen in the back. It is not ideal for trying to fill he entire room with sound, which is why we have created a focused pocket to sit in. Lately we have been sitting and listening to more music and while I am not displeased with what we get from out little system I am curious to see if I can eek a little more out of our tiny set up. We run all the music in the Stereo listening mode, making the output 2.1 from the receiver. What I feel like I'm missing is a little more HF detail; just a certain crispness on the top of the sound to really make it POP. The Quintets, while detailed, just seem to be missing the air in the room, as it were. I've been reading up on the new Reference line and am well aware of it's pedigree as the replacement for the Synergy line, being almost identical in spec and build save for the slightly larger tweeter. I am wondering if these R-15M's would be a good sonic match for the speakers I currently have for getting a little more out of the front soundstage; slightly wider soundstage and greater detail. As I've said I don't have a lot of space, so getting floor speakers is right out. The RII's and Premieres seem like a lot of overkill for what I have as we are not trying to fill the room from wall to wall, and I want to stay within the Klipsch family as I have been very happy with the performance of my little Quintets. Now I can get some Synergy B-20's and even a new center NIB for less than the Reference and continue to use my Quintet's as surrounds. I'm sure if my QIII's sound, "good" in my space that these will as well. Since the Reference and Synergies are, "virtually" the same speakers is it the opinion of those in the forum that going the Synergy route would be a better option unless/until I can move up into the higher priced lines? Is there any level of upgrade in the Reference series that would make them a better buy in the long run, including eventually replacing the center and surrounds? My wife has been more than supportive of my interest in replacing these speakers, which is refreshing since she will usually fight me on making equipment upgrades when they are not necessary. I would like to repay this support by making a good decision that will reward her faith. Thank you for any help you can provide!