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Anyone have schematics for the RF-7 III towers, RC-64 III center, and the RP-250S surrounds?
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These are all mine!
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I am very interested! Shoot me a Pm.
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7 hours ago, glens said:
There's a "Pilgrimage 2018 Photos" thread, but I guess that's not what I was thinking of. I can't find it either, but I know I saw photos or even a video somewhere sometime. Sorry.
wait... this was it, I think
Oh awesome, thanks! That is some nice internal bracing. I'm guessing those cabinets are very inert. Looks to be better bracing than the RF-7 II
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6 hours ago, Deang said:
Only if one has a problem with Mylars and penny junk resistors.
Which I definitely do. I completely upgraded every part of the crossovers in my Klipsch RF-3 II system, the difference is absolutely night and day. Rebuilding crossovers with better parts, from somewhere like Parts Express, really makes a huge difference. The improvement I noticed with the RF-3 II's cannot be overstated, crossover component quality really matters. That's actually my only issue with Klipsch speakers, well, I'd also like a little better internal bracing.
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15 hours ago, glens said:
Are the stock crossovers in an RF7 III in need of an upgrade?
I've seen pictures here on this site, I think it was from the most recent "Pilgramage" thread, of RF7 III boxes being built. I'm pretty sure of that at any rate.
I can't find that thread, can you link me to it?
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On 2/21/2019 at 6:34 PM, Deang said:
I'd still really like to see the actual RF-7 III crossovers. I'd also love to see the internal bracing and bifurcated chambers. I intend to buy RF-7 III's, the RC-64 III, and matching surrounds. I'd love to have someone like you do the crossover upgrades on all of them. Any chance you could do this, or know someone who could?
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Anyone know if there are any crossover network images available yet for the RF-7 III or the RC-64 III?
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Where are people finding these for so cheap?
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I'm also looking for a cheap pair, I don't mind scuffs and dings at all. Anyone where I can find a pair, as well?
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I'd consider adding extra internal bracing, I did that to my RF-3 mk2 towers and they definitely are much more inert and sound better. I also did damping on the driver motors and baskets.
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On 1/20/2018 at 12:55 PM, ODS123 said:
Not speaking for Klipsch but perhaps their view is to simply let people judge their speakers by how they sound and NOT by inferences they draw by viewing blueprints and schematics?
As for your belief that there can never be "too much bracing", I respectfully disagree. Any bracing beyond what is necessary to eliminate audible resonances simply increases manufacturing, weight and shipping shipping costs. ..If it doesn't improve the sound then why bother?? ..My Klipsch Cornwalls clearly don't have an abundance of bracing - knock on the cabinets and you'll hear they sound quite hollow. Still, they sound fabulous - incredibly smooth, no smearing, no strain at any reasonable volume AND not a hint of resonance. So what would have been gained by add'l bracing? They already weigh 100lbs ea.
I understand that a lot of speaker companies (particularly consumer, not so much pro-audio) make a huge deal about eliminating cabinet resonances but how much of this is necessary and how much is marketing hype? ..My Paradigms and Vandersteens had very inert cabinets, yet my new Cornwall III's - which are far more hollow sounding by comparison (when you rap on them w/your knuckles) - sound better in every respect! I think eliminating audible resonances is easily achieved w/ out the use of excessive internal bracing through thoughtful cabinet design, and dampening material inside the cabinet.
I definitely learned something new with this comment, I didn't know that, I always thought more was better with internal bracing. Thank you for the highly informative post.
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On 1/17/2018 at 12:55 PM, dtel said:
I wouldn't if I were them, I am sure someone would complain, copy or at least whine about something. To many braces not enough braces, crossover wire not there favorite and of course capacitors and drivers. Plus I am sure someone would make their own putting there own "much preferred" drivers claiming many breakthroughs.
I wasn't directing this at you Koh, or anyone in particular, it's just the way some people act. It seems you could give some a gold monkey and they would ask why it is not a different shade of gold ?
Sorry I just have a low tolerance for whiny people.
I really don't understand why on Earth we shouldn't be allowed to see the inside of their speakers...? The internals absolutely have a huge impact on performance and help me determine what I buy. I will never ever understand why in the heck i get criticized on this forum for asking this.... WTF?
Seriously, no one would complain about "too much bracing" - great internal bracing with lots of it is always a good thing, as are nice beefy cross over networks with quality caps and resistors.
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On 1/14/2018 at 12:43 PM, Ceptorman said:
They have only been shipping these out for a couple weeks, and only a few on here have them yet. You might have more luck contacting Klipsch about a drawing or plans showing the RF7lll's internals. Not many people want to disassemble their brand new speakers. Good luck.
Great points, I think I'll do that.
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I'm truly amazed that no one seems to care about seeing the internals. Puzzling.
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Any chance of seeing the internal bracing and crossover network?
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Hello, I am very interested in seeing under the hood of the new RF-7 III model. I'd love to see the internal bracing, crossover, and drivers, if possible.
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If you still have these in Dec/Jan I will absolutely buy them.
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Awesome, Premiere Atmos speakers are definitely my next upgrade!!
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The speakers look great Alex.
We genuinely believe Dolby Atmos is the biggest advancement in home cinema since surround sound.That's a pretty huge statement.
I am inclined to believe them. I have heard of people's impressions who have experienced a proper acoustically treated Atmos theater or home theater, and they say it's pretty much the best thing ever in home and commercial cinema audio.
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Yah, yah, I know...Almost all of you have seen most of this already, but we officially posted the product pages, specs, photography and an introductory video.
We genuinely believe Dolby Atmos is the biggest advancement in home cinema since surround sound. It's something you really need to experience to understand (although we try to explain it in our blog haha). It's probably the craziest/most awesome demo I have had in the 3+ years I have worked at Klipsch.
The RP-280FA is a version of the RP-280F floorstanding speaker with Dolby Atmos built-in via an elevation channel. It comes in black and real walnut wood veneers. The RP-450CA is the matching center channel for this system that comes with those same veneer options.
The RP-140SA is actually pretty cool because you can add it to whatever speakers you currently have if you are looking to implement Atmos that way. I actually just picked up a pair during an employee auction for my home theater (RP-260F, RP-450C, RP-250S, R-112SW).
Of course, we still make in-ceiling speakers that deliver the Atmos spec.
I get that some people are skeptical and that's fair...but, as we always say here, just have a listen.
NEW PRODUCTS
RP-280FA: http://www.klipsch.com/rp-280fa
RP-140SA: http://www.klipsch.com/rp-140sa
RP-450CA: http://www.klipsch.com/rp-450ca
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Definitely getting these. I plan on upgrading my speakers next spring, these are definitely my absolute TOP choice. Can't wait to have Atmos in the home!!
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Hmmm, do you find Timbre matching to be an issue? I imagine it would be. :/
Anyone have schematics for RF-7 III, RC-64 III?
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I'm hoping someone can help with figuring how to do crossover network upgrades to the RF-7 III, RC-64 III, and RP-502S?
Does anyone have crossover schematics for any of these?