Maximus89
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I'm thinking Danish oil since I've used it before but not sure if it does anything over a previous finish. I know of Howard's restore a finish but I wanted something to make the cherry grain really pop in the light.
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I love only walnut and I've never found any vintage klipch in walnut. Not complaining. The cherry and oak they do on today's new speakers are gorgeous veneer. The vintage red cherry with barely any wood grain and patterns isn't my that attractive to me but its all about the sound in the end!Congrats! If I had to pick, that'd be the color. Old English lemon oil is a good place to start. Pics when you can, please!
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Just got home with my new v.1 CF4s in beautiful cherry! Anyone got any tips to apply some kind of oil with #0000 steel wool that'll really make the speaker pop while covering small scratches?
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10 minutes ago, 314carpenter said:
o the exact point Maximus89 made above, a timber matched and cosmetically designed center channel and subwoofer would only add to sales without cannibalizing the existing Klipsch Heritage lines. I think it is well past due that Klipsch take their extremely financially safe and passive approach to preserving the Heritage lines as 2 channel specialist and expand to 3.1. at a minimum. At least this one time. I really feel they owe us this one. 20,000 units each to start. What say you "keepers of the sound"?
According to history, both the Cornwall and Heresy started out as center speakers, so...a heritage center isn't taboo at all to the heritage prestige. Just needs to be horizontal for the modern home.
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On 2/1/2021 at 4:25 PM, Stubb said:
Are upgrade kits something that's been offered in the past?
Yes. Heresy II to Heresy III upgrade kit. Not sure how long that was offered.
I feel the III to IV upgrade kit is 100% necessary. I remember there were a lot of bummed out new CW III owners as soon as the IV was introduced. That's a lot of money spent only to be told your new expensive speaker is now obsolete. Same thing now with new FIII owners, but the FIII owners have a real possibility to make the move up via upgrade kit. I believe Klipsch is the kind of company who will do it for their customers, but maybe not announce it and only forum members will really know about it. My guess anyway. -
On 2/1/2021 at 4:33 PM, moray james said:
I would rather listen to the Kapton diaphragm than the ti one and there are plenty of folks who have issues with the ti resonance (thought it dose not really bother me but given the choice I would prefer aluminum over titanium). A larger mid diaphragm would be a good way to lower distortion. Ah well that's what DIY is for.
My ear was very sensitive to that tweeter. I don't remember what frequency it was, but my ear would instantly perk or twinge when the freq. played. Got super annoying. I remember 1 other guy who mentioned it and made his III's a 2 way because of it
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Throw in another suggestion for the RC-7. If the copper driver mismatched color bothers you, i'm sure there's suitable drop in black 8" drivers. I had an RC-7 that i dropped the drivers from-i forget the RF-7 II's little brother name.
Got another one for you. If you don't mind a short floor stander, a kg 3.2. Drop in the tweeter from the Forte III.
If Klipsch offers parts upgrade kit to Forte IV, you'll have tons of options and possibilities for a timbre matched center with your spare Forte III parts.
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The K70 G has been used in 2 way pro speakers soooo you could also find a KV4 with the same mid horn as the Forte III minus the mumps and you can screw on the k70g compression driver and you got a timbre match, though you'd have to look at the measurements. I personally did this. I had a single Forte III, took the horn with mumps and k70g and dropped it into the KV4(no photos sorry) and it worked for me, but i don't have golden ears and i had it set up with Chorus II's that had Ti diaphragms for the tweeter and mids, not Forte III.
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Probably look at a KLF-C7 and add a titanium diaphragm
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If you're scared of tubes, try McIntosh SS or a hybird integrated tube pre amp, with ss power.
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Cory, are those beauties Natural Cherry veneer?
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8 hours ago, dwilawyer said:
You have a lot of company in that regard, and more than a few were asking about a Chorus III in the Listening Lounge today.
My understanding on why the Chorus got overlooked is how and where it would fit in the current line up, or rather, that it doesn't currently fit in terms of price, size, specs. Where did the Chorus II fit back in the day? Above what, below what?
The KG, Quartet-Forte-Chorus and Legendary KLF and Epic lines all had their baby, middle brother, big brother and timbre matching center. I can't imagine that was good business, but it was great for all of us. These days, with the Forte's entrance into the Heritage lineup, there's no room for a Chorus with the Cornwall IV and there's no room for a Quartet with the Heresy IV. What would sell however, imo, is a heritage matched Center speaker and subwoofer
The center can now be timbre matched to the HIV, CWIV and now Forte IV so it makes a lot of sense imo. IIRC, there was already a heritage sub in the works that never came to fruition?
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That looks much nicer than the original. But do aesthetics match sound. Well see!
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Right but the Cf4 is a k30 neodymium magnet. Is a k31 the same minus the magnet material?[mention=58629]Chief bonehead[/mention] announced that Part number # 1067961 is the Factory replacement woofer for the K-31 -
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59 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:
Klipsch Part # 1067961----available from klipsch Parts - 1 Part Number fits 3 series of Klipsch speakers -Jubilee 2020- KLF-30 - EPIC CF-4
Is the CF-4 fit just going by the fact that that its been done by mere mortals like us or has Roy come out and said its a suitable replacement?
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1 minute ago, RandyH000 said:
there are 2 Jubilee speakers - the 2020 ( older Jubilee ) used twin 12 inch woofers , so the K31 --- the newer 12 inch woofer that replaced the K31 was used as of 2020 - that new part number fits the 2020 Jubilee - the KLF-30 and the Epic CF-4 -
as far as the new Jubilee 2021 with a single woofer , I have no idea whether it uses a 12-15- or 18 inch driver ---since the specs sheet has not yet been published -
AH. Makes sense. So at least now there's an in production woofer that could fit the KLF-30 and CF-4 with parts being rare to find and nearly impossible to find the CF4 woofers. Not a perfect match for CF-4, but close enough and Klipsch made. Many would be more comfortable with that than using non Klipsch parts.
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10 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:
Klipsch recently made a newer , ameliorated version of the K31 ---the woofers are used in the Pro and the Consumer 15k$ Jubilee 2020 ----- that newer klipsch woofer option can also be used , to the same degree as the CIARE in the CF-4 since it fits the KLF-30 -
I know the KLF 30 woofers were used in the original Jubilee, duals in the folded horn, but i'm not sure i understand what you're saying. The new 2021 Jubilee that's just recently been introduced, with the ports in the folded horn and uses a single driver, is the updated K31? It only uses a single 12?
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1 minute ago, RandyH000 said:
the K -30-KN are simply unbeatable --
They're amazing. Although to be fair to the Ciare, we might hear them better on the cf-4 with the way they're configured in 2 way and more vocal range being played with the woofers. Again, correct me if i am wrong. They'd be playing their lowest frequency up to i think 1.5khz and the tweeter comes in, but they sound like 1 driver which i love
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41 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:
the CF-4 ------sounds amazing , which Woofers------do you have in the CF-4 ?
I thought so too even with the phone recording. He's got the stock woofers on the cf-4 in the 1st video vs the ciare on the klf 30s in the 2nd video.
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7 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:
so you prefer the CF4 to the KLF-30 --------what's better on the CF-4 ? -----You said Bass , but both use the same woofers ----how about the HF -
Maybe v3's use the same woofers, but not v.1 and v2. Different woofers. Someone correct me if i'm wrong.
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Holy Crap. That's awesome. I should buy 2 pairs of the 10's as backups for my CF-3 v.1 if they sound good.
Can't wait to hear your impressions.
I mentioned earlier how i'm not getting as much low end as i thought. I finally got some back switching my DAC's ASIO driver to a WASAPI driver, but it's still not as good as i want it to be. I remember the KLF-30 guys raving about these ciare woofers
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30 minutes ago, LORDROOTMAN said:
I want to trade KLF for another pair of CF4
Are those Ciare woofers as good as the forum members who tried them said? Do they fit into the CF-4? Give it a try
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2 minutes ago, Maximus89 said:
If i used the k510, i'd likely use a different compression driver with aluminum diaphragm out to 20khz to keep that CF sound i'm getting used to, and i'd have to go active 2 way crossover. I think i'd have to keep the horn on top of the cabinet for lower crossover. I don't know anything about speaker building so i'm not sure if D'Appolito design should be crossed low even if you got the cd to do it?
I came across this quote
Spoiler"The primary advantage of a concentric driver is avoidance of interference/cancellation between the tweeter and the bigger driver, thereby avoiding nulls and lobes in the vertical polar plane. Symmetry above and below the horizontal plane is likewise achieved, but I think this is of secondary importance. Since the MTM arrangement achieves the symmetry effect but does not avoid the interference/cancellation between the tweeter and the larger driver, it does not really emulate the concentric driver. Interference/cancellation between the tweeter and the larger driver still occurs, although it is different. There are double nulls, one associated with each of the larger drivers, and each is slightly milder than it would be with just a single one of the two larger drivers. (Each of the larger drivers partially fills in the null associated with the other one, but this effect is not strong because cancellation frequency is nearly the same for both of the larger drivers.) And in addition you generally get interference/cancellation between the two larger drivers, and thus nulls and lobes in the vertical polar plane at frequencies below the crossover point. This can't practically be avoided except perhaps by using a "full-range" driver in place of the tweeter so that the crossover point can be much lower than it would be with any normal tweeter. (Full-range drivers are more highly damped, to achieve a broader frequency response, and as such they are poorer in terms of efficiency and sensitivity.)"
So i supposed i can use a lower crossover point if i got the full range driver to do it.
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1 minute ago, jjptkd said:
Yes klf horn for tweeter and 510 for mid this large mid driver is at a whole new level it just sounds so right blends perfectly with the woofer and tweeter although the tweeter level is quite low I can certainly see how a 2-way could be possible and not feel like you're missing anything.
I'm thinking a ki-396 in a Chorus cabinet would be alright nice to get a little lower extension beyond what the smaller trapezoidal cabinets can offer.
If i used the k510, i'd likely use a different compression driver with aluminum diaphragm out to 20khz to keep that CF sound i'm getting used to, and i'd have to go active 2 way crossover. I think i'd have to keep the horn on top of the cabinet for lower crossover. I don't know anything about speaker building so i'm not sure if D'Appolito design should be crossed low even if you got the cd to do it?
The center can now be timbre matched to the HIV, CWIV and now Forte IV so it makes a lot of sense imo. IIRC, there was already a heritage sub in the works that never came to fruition?
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I appreciate the lengthy and detailed post. What I think ill do is apply Danish oil with #0000 steel wool. Maybe 2 applications? Wipe off all excess oil and wait for a few days and then apply a wax finish.
Howard's restore a finish is an option. Will it work before or after Danish oil?
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