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  1. 10 minutes ago, 314carpenter said:

    o the exact point Maximus89 made above, a timber matched and cosmetically designed center channel and subwoofer would only add to sales without cannibalizing the existing Klipsch Heritage lines. I think it is well past due that Klipsch take their extremely financially safe and passive approach to preserving the Heritage lines as 2 channel specialist and expand to 3.1. at a minimum. At least this one time. I really feel they owe us this one. 20,000 units each to start. What say you "keepers of the sound"?

    According to history, both the Cornwall and Heresy started out as center speakers, so...a heritage center isn't taboo at all to the heritage prestige. Just needs to be horizontal for the modern home.

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  2. On 2/1/2021 at 4:25 PM, Stubb said:

    Are upgrade kits something that's been offered in the past?

    Yes. Heresy II to Heresy III upgrade kit. Not sure how long that was offered. 


    I feel the III to IV upgrade kit is 100% necessary. I remember there were a lot of bummed out new CW III owners as soon as the IV was introduced. That's a lot of money spent only to be told your new expensive speaker is now obsolete.  Same thing now with new FIII owners, but the FIII owners have a real possibility to make the move up via upgrade kit. I believe Klipsch is the kind of company who will do it for their customers, but maybe not announce it and only forum members will really know about it. My guess anyway.

  3. On 2/1/2021 at 4:33 PM, moray james said:

    I would rather listen to the Kapton diaphragm than the ti one and there are plenty of folks who have issues with the ti resonance (thought it dose not really bother me but given the choice I would prefer aluminum over titanium). A larger mid diaphragm would be a good way to lower distortion. Ah well that's what DIY is for.

    My ear was very sensitive to that tweeter. I don't remember what frequency it was, but my ear would  instantly perk or twinge when the freq. played. Got super annoying. I remember 1 other guy who mentioned it and made his III's a 2  way because of it

  4. Throw in another suggestion for the RC-7. If the copper driver mismatched color bothers you, i'm sure there's suitable drop in black 8" drivers. I had an RC-7 that i dropped the drivers from-i forget the RF-7 II's little brother name.


    Got another one for you. If you don't mind a short floor stander, a kg 3.2. Drop in the tweeter from the Forte III. 

    If Klipsch offers parts upgrade kit to Forte IV, you'll have tons of options and possibilities for a timbre matched center with your spare Forte III parts. 

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  5. The K70 G has been used in 2 way pro speakers soooo you could also find a KV4 with the same mid horn as the Forte III minus the mumps and you can screw on the k70g compression driver and you got a timbre match, though you'd have to look at the measurements. I personally did this. I had a single Forte III, took the horn with mumps and k70g and dropped it into the KV4(no photos sorry) and it worked for me, but i don't have golden ears and i had it set up with Chorus II's that had Ti diaphragms for the tweeter and mids, not Forte III.

  6. 8 hours ago, dwilawyer said:

     

    You have a lot of company in that regard, and more than a few were asking about a Chorus III in the Listening Lounge today. 

     

    My understanding on why the Chorus got overlooked is how and where it would fit in the current line up, or rather, that it doesn't currently fit in terms of price, size, specs. Where did the Chorus II fit back in the day? Above what, below what? 

     

     

    The KG, Quartet-Forte-Chorus and Legendary KLF and Epic lines all had their baby, middle brother, big brother and timbre matching center.  I can't imagine that was good business, but it was great for all of us.  These days, with the Forte's entrance into the Heritage lineup, there's no room for a Chorus with the Cornwall IV and there's no room for a Quartet with the Heresy IV. What would sell however, imo, is a heritage matched Center speaker and subwoofer :) The center can now be timbre matched to the HIV, CWIV and now Forte IV so it makes a lot of sense imo. IIRC, there was already a heritage sub in the works that never came to fruition? 

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  7. [mention=58629]Chief bonehead[/mention]   announced that  Part number   #  1067961  is the  Factory replacement woofer  for  the  K-31 - 
    Right but the Cf4 is a k30 neodymium magnet. Is a k31 the same minus the magnet material?

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  8. 59 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:

      Klipsch  Part  #  1067961----available from klipsch Parts -   1 Part Number fits  3 series of Klipsch speakers -Jubilee 2020-  KLF-30  -  EPIC CF-4 

    Is the CF-4 fit just going by the fact that that its been done by mere mortals like us or has Roy come out and said its a suitable replacement? 

    Just curious if its just a physical drop in replacement, or it specs similarly to the original

  9. 1 minute ago, RandyH000 said:

     there are 2   Jubilee speakers -  the 2020    ( older Jubilee )  used  twin 12 inch woofers , so the K31 --- the newer  12 inch woofer that replaced the K31 was used as of 2020  -  that new part number fits the 2020 Jubilee - the KLF-30  and the Epic CF-4 -

     

    as far as the new Jubilee 2021 with a single woofer , I have no idea whether it uses a 12-15- or 18 inch driver ---since the specs sheet has not yet been published -

     

     

     

    AH. Makes sense.  So at least now there's an in production woofer that could fit the KLF-30 and CF-4 with parts being rare to find and nearly impossible to find the CF4 woofers. Not a perfect match for CF-4, but close enough and Klipsch made. Many would be more comfortable with that than using non Klipsch parts.

  10. 10 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:

    Klipsch recently made a newer , ameliorated  version of the K31 ---the woofers are used in the Pro and the Consumer  15k$   Jubilee 2020  ----- that  newer  klipsch  woofer option  can also  be used ,   to the same degree as the CIARE   in the CF-4 since it fits  the KLF-30 -  

    I know the KLF 30 woofers were used in the original Jubilee, duals in the folded horn, but i'm not sure i understand what you're saying. The new 2021 Jubilee that's just recently been introduced, with the ports in the folded horn and uses a single driver, is the updated K31? It only uses a single 12?

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  11. 1 minute ago, RandyH000 said:

    the   K -30-KN  are simply unbeatable --

    They're amazing. Although to be fair to the Ciare, we might hear them better on the cf-4 with the way they're configured in 2 way and more vocal range being played with the woofers. Again, correct me if i am wrong. They'd be playing their lowest frequency up to i think 1.5khz and the tweeter comes in, but they sound like 1 driver which i love

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  12. 41 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:

    the CF-4 ------sounds amazing , which Woofers------do you have  in the CF-4 ?

    I thought so too even with the phone recording. He's got the stock woofers on the cf-4 in the 1st video vs the ciare on the klf 30s in the 2nd video. 

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  13. 7 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:

    so you prefer the CF4  to the KLF-30  --------what's better on the CF-4  ? -----You said Bass , but both use the same woofers ----how about the HF -

    Maybe v3's use the same woofers, but not v.1 and v2.  Different woofers. Someone correct me if i'm wrong.

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  14. Holy Crap. That's awesome.  I should buy 2 pairs of the 10's as backups for my CF-3 v.1 if they sound good. 

    Can't wait to hear your impressions.

    I mentioned earlier how i'm not getting as much low end as i thought.  I finally got some back switching my DAC's ASIO driver to a WASAPI driver, but it's still not as good as i want it to be.  I remember the KLF-30 guys raving about these ciare woofers

    What was the model number so i can look for the same model but 10" please?

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  15. 2 minutes ago, Maximus89 said:

    If i used the k510, i'd likely use a different compression driver with aluminum diaphragm out to 20khz to keep that CF sound i'm getting used to, and i'd have to go active 2 way crossover. I think i'd have to keep the horn on top of the cabinet for lower crossover. I don't know anything about speaker building so i'm not sure if D'Appolito design should be crossed low even if you got the cd to do it?

    I came across this quote 
     

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    "The primary advantage of a concentric driver is avoidance of interference/cancellation between the tweeter and the bigger driver, thereby avoiding nulls and lobes in the vertical polar plane. Symmetry above and below the horizontal plane is likewise achieved, but I think this is of secondary importance. Since the MTM arrangement achieves the symmetry effect but does not avoid the interference/cancellation between the tweeter and the larger driver, it does not really emulate the concentric driver. Interference/cancellation between the tweeter and the larger driver still occurs, although it is different. There are double nulls, one associated with each of the larger drivers, and each is slightly milder than it would be with just a single one of the two larger drivers. (Each of the larger drivers partially fills in the null associated with the other one, but this effect is not strong because cancellation frequency is nearly the same for both of the larger drivers.) And in addition you generally get interference/cancellation between the two larger drivers, and thus nulls and lobes in the vertical polar plane at frequencies below the crossover point. This can't practically be avoided except perhaps by using a "full-range" driver in place of the tweeter so that the crossover point can be much lower than it would be with any normal tweeter. (Full-range drivers are more highly damped, to achieve a broader frequency response, and as such they are poorer in terms of efficiency and sensitivity.)"

    So i supposed i can use a lower crossover point if i got the full range driver to do it. 

  16. 1 minute ago, jjptkd said:

    Yes klf horn for tweeter and 510 for mid this large mid driver is at a whole new level it just sounds so right blends perfectly with the woofer and tweeter although the tweeter level is quite low I can certainly see how a 2-way could be possible and not feel like you're missing anything. 

     

    I'm thinking a ki-396 in a Chorus cabinet would be alright nice to get a little lower extension beyond what the smaller trapezoidal cabinets can offer. 

    If i used the k510, i'd likely use a different compression driver with aluminum diaphragm out to 20khz to keep that CF sound i'm getting used to, and i'd have to go active 2 way crossover. I think i'd have to keep the horn on top of the cabinet for lower crossover. I don't know anything about speaker building so i'm not sure if D'Appolito design should be crossed low even if you got the cd to do it?

  17. I use an MX120 as a preamp so i suppose my synergy is fine. I'm happy with everything except i just can't get my CF-3 (version 1)drivers to wake up even with bridged 320wpc even though i felt i had it before. I might be having an issue with my amp input sensitivity? It's the last thing i haven't tried. Currently have it at 2.5v but McIntosh recommends 1v THX with their pre that came out with the mc7106.

    My question was mostly to give me peace of mind so as to get rid of the upgrade bug or curiosity. I suppose though, Mac holds resale so i could always recoup. I just can't get these CF-3 drivers to impact me at my preferred volumes. I have to go up pretty high to where my ears can't take it in my small room. I feel the 100wpc unbridged to the 320wpc bridged made zero difference whereas the first time i tried, i was blown away.   More experiments to come.  I keep hearing about power conditioners sapping the dynamics of amps, but i've tried the power amp directly in the wall, and not much difference. It and the Pre are on the outlets with no current limiting. 🤷‍♂️ I also switched the DAC into the current limiting outlet and power amp to wall, same lack of bass, but i do feel it was the best for black background.  I'm just trying to get it to where i'm happy without using my RSW15, and have that only as a bonus. I don't want to use the RSW15 to bandaid over this issue, because i know my CF-3's can hit me in the chest on their own. 

    Sorry to derail. I got my autoformer answers. Thanks gents.

  18. Are they that big of a jump compared to their non autoformer amps? I use an MC7106 bridged to 320wpc, but curious what kind of leap i'd make to a traditional mac amp with the autoformer and if even lower 150-200wpc would sound fuller and more authoritative than the non autoformer mac amps bridged to more wpc.

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