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Newbie myself. Welcome! Whatever you decide please let us know.
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Assuming you have a phono preamp, whether built in or separate, it is plug and play.
That said, I would check the tracking force, anti-skate and cartridge alignment, but you could probably plug it in and enjoy it for years without checking those. If it appears to have been damaged in shipping, all bets are off.
Sounds complicated.Thanks.
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I don't know much about turn tables. Is this a plug & play? Does anything need adjustment when you get it? Anything to fiddle with?
Possibly looking to get my first TT.
Thanks.
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there is repairing and then there is rebuilding. Components of the vintage of the Marantz in question need to be rebuilt not repaired, it is not the same thing. A rebuild means you replace (with new and the best quality you can afford) all electrolytic capacitors as a minimum. It is also a good plan to replace the film caps as well followed by any other parts that are worth upgrading or which may need replacement (input caps coupling caps feedback caps anything signal path supply bypass caps). Spending money on a repair is just a waste at this point better to do a full rebuild and your repair will happen at the same time, repair first and you are paying twice for parts and labour.Thanks for the info. He was told the marantz didn't work, so it's going to his friend first who will repair it, then we will see how much he wants for it.
Absolutely correct. My example.
I took a Marantz 2500 in for a evaluation locally and the pro told me to replace TWO caps, blow some air to clean up the inside would come to $400-$500. Absurd.
I decided to instead to have the Marantz 100% refurbished meaning approximately 30-40 caps being replaced as well as films, transistor etc for $1200.
Keep in mind this is about an 30-40 hr job vs the first guy maybe 30 min and there is no telling if some part will fail again. Then be charged another couple hundred? No thanks.
Do it right the first time.
On a smaller scale I'm having a Sony STR 7055 completely refurbished right now. Cost about $400 and it'll be good for another 20-30 years. Amortize that and it comes out to a sweet deal.
But first you have to love the sound of the unit and be able to compare it to others in it's league. Apples to apples. Then if you do have it sent in for a full year down & rebuild.
Good luck.
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Molly Johnson
Summertime
One instrument. A singer. Simple.
Excellent cello bass. Sounds absolutely wonderful on the Belle's. Not sure the complaints about bass. Plenty of NATURAL bass here.
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Hey Welcome to the forum. New here myself. Glad to see that the dealer is stepping up. Nice speakers.
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Smart ^^
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Haha. I know exactly where you're coming from. It's difficult to sift through the many options. However I'm fortunate to have come from Mobile Audio and know somewhat what I'm looking for but difficult to quantify. The Crossovers for from ALK look a lot like Focal speakers or any modern-day crossover. I'd really like to go with Pio to keep the comparisons the same as possible.My problem is that when it comes to XO components, I am a 100% believer in whatever was the last article/post I read.
That's why I am a believer in expert opinions because they have already done the R&D. There seems to be no need for me to reinvent the wheel.
The only problem I have with that approach is that the person giving us the wisdom might have a preference for a certain sound and maybe I am looking for something else. For instance I like and know very well what a brass instrument is supposed to sound like, and to get that sound you really have to have a "forward" or "bright" sound. "Smooth" might not be the best sound for me, I dunno.
Speaking for myself I think I am driving myself crazy splitting hairs in sound and chasing windmills.
Eventually I will try ALK and Bob Crites crossovers. Love their build quality.
As for your preference on the sound of brass instruments perhaps if you can afford it go with 2-way bookshelf speakers with the little subwoofer. The Focal speakers with their beryllium tweeter is just absolutely awesome for brass instruments. Thus you can have modern day speakers and vintage while enjoying both.
That'll save you time, expense, aggravation and mental gymnastics of going through three different crossovers.
Besides in trying to obtain "that" sound many will swap out the tweeters, mids and woofers with extreme sloped crossovers then you no longer have the speakers you originally started with. What's the point? They've now become fraken speakers.
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Fortunately mine are not leaking. They look really good & shiny. No rust on the cans.
But I would like to do an A/B comparison with new crossovers.
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Dean pm me if you can...or maybe not. Thanks for the direction on the rebuild. Maybe I can find someone to do it. Appreciate the link.
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Thanks. That's the thing the tweeters in these Belle's are not fatiguing. I have listened to these for hours on straight without issue. I have the Wharfedale Denton 80th Anniversary model to compare to upstairs and their more than holding their own against them. Truly impressed with these Belle's.
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Not looking for extreme slopes or absolute separation of speakers at this time. I'd like to attempt to get it back to original as possible. Oil filled & go from there. That way it'll give me as close of a baseline as possible then perhaps down the road use extreme slopes or go fully active.
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That's about right in the ballpark. Looks nice. I see that's for parts only.
JENSEN-62343
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2.2uf / 100VAC • 200VDC, Aluminum Foil, Aluminum Case
$42 ea.
JENSEN-64002
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12uf / 100VAC • 200VDC, Aluminum Foil, Aluminum Case, 2.2" D ...
$132 ea
Not sure about the transformer, wires, terminals etc.
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Sigh. Learned a lot in this thread.
https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/49704-what-makes-a-capacitor-sound-better/
Unfortunately the Jensen are to expensive upfront & other caps do just as well. Love to have me some Jensen though.
Thanks for the input.
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I've looked at both ALK & Crites crossovers and have to thank both for their patience & professionalism in answering my emails. For someone who has zero knowledge of crossovers & electronics the questions coming from me can be elementary.
Anyway, has anyone ever replaced the crossovers in a Klipsch with the EXACT same oil & paper cans(?) that are in the AA? Are they still available? I've read somewhere that they make a copper/oil ones for tube fans.
Some of the downside of these is the tolerances can vary wildly with two cans made from the same mfg?
Their expensive.$30+ each?
Hard to find?
The reason I ask is I REALLY like the sound they produce right now and hate to change them too drastically. I'm hesitating to pull the trigger as I've listened to a receiver (Yamaha RX 777) that had every top grade caps from Elna silm II, nichi etc..and was VERY bright sounding.
I don't want this happening on the speakers with metal, mylar or any other caps.
Thanks.
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Still some months out I'll have a Marantz 2500 that I'll report on. Probably be restored by December. Lol.
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Curious what was your impression of them?Sansui 22000 or 33000
But that is a little out of my range
Mark
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Realistic 2100D. I've yet to hook up my Sony str 7055 as it's being recapped. But when it does....
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Not a new Belle owner, have had mine for about 35 years. Mine have the ebony finish which I haven't seen on any others, Was curious if anyone knows how many they built with the ebony finish. They are definitely a great speaker and nice to look at. Also was looking for input on replacement receiver. I have been using a Fischer rs1080, also for about 30 years, but I think it croaked. ?? fix it or replace, dilemma...note serial #s on Belles, 8512929 &8512930. year built?
Wow. Those are beauties. Thanks for sharing:)
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Garyc
Thanks for that bit of info. Yes the Sony STR 7055 does push out 40 watts. Fact is I have my Realistic 2100D right now @125 wpc pushing them and while nice it's not as musical as the Sony. So I'm relieved to see that it will be able too.
Right now though I have sent the Sony 7055 in question to Washington to get a full restore on it. In the meantime I'll throw another Sony I just purchased a 7045 model rated at 40-50 wpc on it.
My plan is to have new crossovers in place by the time the fully restored Sony comes back.
Should be interesting to see how they both interact with new caps.
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I agree. My small Sony STR 7055 has bested the Realistic 2100D & Yamaha RX-777. It's now going up north for a full restoration. Financially it doesn't make sense but being that I'm keeping it for good maybe it'll be worth it. I'm excited about the prospect of pairing these Belle's to a fully restored Sony.
Welcome to the Belle Club. I have used several receivers and amps. I have the Realistic STA2300. Though it's a beast for power and has great SS sound, I like some of my smaller Marantz, Sansui and Harman Kardon for quality.I'm blown away by this speakers efficiency. Did I read 104db correctly? If so then my Sony STR 7055 @ 40 watts can push these speakers without issue. Yikes.
Hopefully restores live up to the hype. If so I have three others to do. Otherwise it'll be the last. Stay tuned.
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Awesome replies guys. Thanks.
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