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  1. Droogne
    I've asked about the K69A (is this one cheaper or more expensive?), if I can buy it without driver, or if theyd want to buy the drivers (small chance, but who knows). I've also posted a "for sale" on local second hand sites to see if there is interest in the drivers. Before I buy the K-402 I also need to find me my Xilica of course. I'll also have the REW + UMIK1, so with some guidance I think I can pull it off with the K1132. If I find a 20AT Id definitely buy that one, but Faital says they have been discontinued..
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    Got it! GOT IT! GOOOOOT IT! @Chris A @DizRotus "Hi Maarten, We can offer KPT-402 horn with two different driver. KPT-402-MF mid-bass Tractrix® horn coupled to the Klipsch-1133 2” exit titanium driver from KPT-Jubilee535 speaker or KPT-402-HF Tractrix® horn with K-1132 2” exit titanium compression from KPT-942 speaker." Would you happen to know how good the K1132 is? Better thank the K69? Or if those drivers could be sold? (in that case I could buy the K1132 or 33, sell it, and buy the faital HF200 or 20AT) In any case, now I know where to buy and how much it costs. Financially I can make it if I'm able to sell my LaScala center and pair of Choruses II. This will probably take a while, but I'm hoping I can order it so I have it by end of January/begin february. Exciting times ahead!
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    Hahah youre not the first! I always think my English would be sufficient info (grammar in particular) to know I'm not from the states. But yeah it sucks.. Klipsch prices are through the roof over here (I also profited from this, but hard to find second hand items for the prices I see passing by in US Klipsch facebook groups etc), and it's incredibly hard to find Pro Gear (I'm on a quest to find K-402 horns, but I think it's almost at and end, HOOZAAH!). Prices to ship gear from Crites or the likes are also crazy (shipping is "cheap" for drivers etc, around 70 dollars for a pair, but 21% import is the real pain in the butt)
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    Hahaha nice take on my name (It's funny cause no one is able to spell it when they hear it) Belgium Well, it's not about what system would fit my requirements, but rather if my personal system can manage it Have been looking into some other option which are DIY friendly and which uses some of my drivers/bass bins (to make it financialy possible for our organisation). A K600 would be amazing ofcourse. And LaScala is rated a 121 for one, but when I calculate it should reach 126 @100 watt .. But it doesnt really matter. I calculated it for the drivers seperately (based on advice from a local sound expert), taking into account the sensitivity from our ears for certain frequencies. This gave me decent coverage over 40 meter (also taking into account the possible hearing damage due to too high SPL). Haaving such a pair would be amaaaaaazing! They sure costs like it haha! No way I can afford (or find) them
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    Great, I have a marantz AV receiver with plenty of power and which has analog inputs to supply all the woofers I need then
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    That is one biiiiig horn! Thats an EV cab right? Found some designs which use only half of the bin (height wise) which could make a pretty good center. PS, just want to share the happy news I'm might have found a way to order the K-402 in my area! Took a while, and some extensive emailing, but it's looking good!
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    Aweesome! Would it really matter what kind of quality the SS is? Would a subwoofer (iNuke or the likes) amp be a good fit for example? Or wouldnt it really matter? I could be dead wrong, but isnt power the most important for the woofers?
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    So Xilica with SS on the woofers and tubes on the mid and highs?
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    Are there good 12" Quarter Pie horns (or similar designs) for center speakers? Or does this design require a corner / only work in a LR setup?
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    if youre crossing at 500hz, how do you even place it close enough to the centerline of your bassbin? That's at least 2 times that distance in a stock LaScala? (I'm guessing I'm still misunderstanding).
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    Ive been in Vietnam for a month, and oh god! Such moist air ö I'm guessing it's the same/worse where you live.
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    Would a LaScala stack ameliorate this even further? Oh my mistake, so it's okay if I place the horns 15cm higher. Separation is between the mouth height or the borders of the horn? Again thank you! I dont think I got any questions left for now no I just gotta wait on some good K-402 news!
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    Does this mean the LaScala is better in pattern control? So when the MF and HF are coupled I could get away with a separation of 30cm/1foot from the bass bin (that's 50% of the 500hz crossover point to the bassbin)? So using height channels with horns with a similar dispersion pattern, same drivers and appropriate EQ should get me pretty close right? And I would cross all speakers at a point which I think I can reach with all 11 speakers. Ofcourse it's not perfect, but mounting full blown LaScalas (or K402 MEHs is both expensive and ridiculously difficult) Well I'd be using a setup which is pretty versatile, and not so specifically or exclusively for Atmos alone. Because I would be using regular height channels (not modules) I think I can evolve with future advances in the field. I am aware of the superiority of the 5.1 (in the sense that it makes the most sense and has the most native sources) so I'll be giving the 5.1 the priority for now. Using the heresies as front height channels for now, which is pretty good match with the LaScalas.
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    It might also take my focus away from this forum spending way too much time here haha! At this tempo I'll still be distracted when my exams start in january, cant have that
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    I dont mind derailing this thread, but I dont mind a more appropriate seperate thread either ofcourse. Makes it clearer for everyone!
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    Ok, so gonna try to rephrase this to see if I get it. With uneven you mean there is a relevant difference between the on and off axis frequency response. With smooth off-axis polar you just mean a good frequency response, not compared to the on-axis response? My center is easily my best speaker (and fore sure the most expensive at the moment) I have not neglected it Normally this applies to tweeter height right? I was thinking about how I was gonna this with my LaScalas, I can easily raise the bins too but would it make a difference if I only place the MF/HF higher (by like 20-30cm?). Also, how would you try to timbre match your height channels in your setup (if you were to do that hypothetically)
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    I'm having 6 LS bins build, so that would be its "mate". Not against building a jub bin in the future though. And yes I'm reading through the MEH thread today. Interesting stuff! That's an interesting take! The height is one of the reasons why I would mate it with a LaScala. Would you place the fronts and rears on the same height as the center? Isn't that too low? Would this also work with a LaScala (not sure how high the LaScala holds pattern)? Even more interesting design! I'm definitely gonna remember that once I get my hands on my K-402s. Again.. height is indeed one the things I did not really like about the Jubilee. The difference with the center would be huge. (when using a tv). Yeah I saw it mentioned in some thread about the K-402, but nothing really justified the cost and amount of drivers. Looks rad though. And about the 3-way, main reason why I was inquiring into the 3-way MEH was because of the fact that the rest of my 11 surround will consist of K77/K55 drivers, and I wanted a close timbre match. But that's quite a moot point, as I'll probably modify them all in the end to be 2-ways with the same (line of) drivers as what I'll be using in the K-402 LCR. But first the K-402. Then I'll start inquiring into K-402 drivers (the faital HF200 is recommended and is very reasonably priced, which makes it possible to put them in all 11 speakers). Then I'll worry about the horns (as the ones I'd be using in the height channels will be very size restricted) to timbre match (as close as possible) the K-402. They would all be actively crossed (the LCR with a Xilica normally, and the heights with something cheaper like a miniDSP HD), and I've read some nice things about timbre matching and EQ in one of your replies about this subject. Maybe I'll try out the MEH horn with the Bassbin along the way, who knows. All in good time. First those damn K-402 horns I would be able to get them pretty soon if I find a European dealer, if I need to buy from the US I'll probably have to save some more first. I'll keep you posted, as I'll probably have a boatload of question when I get them.
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    @Chris A@ClaudeJ1 For arguments sake, would this horn (if the information is correct) be a "match" for the K-402? I already looked up the price, and it's way too much (4500 dollars) so I wont be buying them.(the shipping prices (960dollars from Australia to Belgium, which is more than 2 times the distance from Kentucky, and that for a 33pound horn each) made me realise that the K-402 shipping prices cant be that bad, which is a good thing. yeay!). I got some interesting information though: "Hi Maarten, The horn has a 60 x 80 degree pattern and the great thing about this design is that it not only extends low, but even the vertical is very well behaved, with no sharp changes and nothing in the directivity that gives away crossover points. The vertical maintains 60 degrees down to 600 Hz, below which it begins to widen, increasing to 100 degrees below 300 Hz. The crossover is 350 Hz and below this point the beamwidth widens as any direct radiator will have a wider pattern. Horizontally the 80 degree beamwidth is maintained well below the crossover point, holding up even at 200 Hz." × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Drag files here to attach, or choose files... Max total size 2MB Insert other media Uploaded Images 23897891_1832883560089191_1257489635_n.jpg 81 kb · Done
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    So essentially you made a great design, better? Love ittttt. Is that the reason youre gonna be making more of them? At the price theyre selling the K-402 in the US they "only" 1,75 times my LaScalas.
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    No snow in June would be quite a crisis but oh damn, that sucks! Safety is something we will be focusing on improving his year. And I agree, it not something that should be left unsaid, even it seems the most logical off all.
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    Oh no problem, I wasn't very clear I admit PS those danley speakers look dang awesome! Perfect size with awesome performance (so I read). Perfect center seize too. Bit pricey for me at this point (but oh well, the K-402 is that too)
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    :s , I have been trying to not trip and fall (aka making stupid remarks) but I'm talking about things I know literally nothing about let me rephrase! What does Chris mean with: "If the bass bin polars match the horn/compression driver polars in each axis (horizontally, vertically), then the loudspeaker will sound very good. If there is a mismatch in polars at the crossover frequency then it will sound not as good in-room."
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    It might be good to try out a synergy horn first DIY with something cheap like this Shipping is 2,5 times the actual price though .. Would something from P-Audio (those are very cheap over here)(http://www.paudiothailand.com/pac/index.cfm/products/high-frequency-horns/) or from Autotech be suitable for this little try-out project? PS, back to the subject. Just out of curiosity (I'm becoming more and more convinced that I wont be spending anything more than like 200-300 on horns/pair as a temporary replacement for the K-402). Can you explain the pattern control of the bass bins some more? How do you have to look at their pattern control? Does it have to go down to their lower crossover, or upper? And how do you match it with the HF/MF horn? Pattern control down to their crossover is enough right?
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    Hmm might be easier to try out a synergy with the 2-way HF200 I was gonna try out. That way I could do something like your build. Would it work with PH2380 horn, or is this one to small to support low frequencies?
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    PS you shouldnt be so humble PWK might be thé legend, doesnt take way any bit of the awesomeness of your build!
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