Pete Mote
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Hello, I picked this pair up from a cinema theatre from a major semiconductor company. I was looking for ideas on what active/passive xover were used with these. I do have access to Klipsch cornwalls, La Scalas, Khorns.
The 4648A are 4 ohm 2x 15 "bass bins". The horns are 8 ohms 2451H compression drivers. Recommendations on a good active Xover to use?
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2 hours ago, MookieStl said:
I'd make furn of you, but I have 2 pair of La Scala's, 2 pair of Belle's, 2 pair of Heresy's, RB61's and a few others scattered around.
Next on the platter is a pair of Jube's! Then I can RIP.
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28 minutes ago, MookieStl said:
I wake up every morning hoping to find speakers like these sitting in my driveway!
And I don't even have a driveway!
I would say that you are starting to have too many speakers, but that't just nonsense talk around here.
Enjoy!
If this is wrong then I don't ever want to be right! 3 pairs of Scala's, Corn III's California style, Corn 4's, Heresy 4's, Forte 3's and a silly R-28PF for kicks. I've definitely got the Klipsch-19 in a strong way. Stay thirsty my friends.
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Woke up this morning to find this is the front driveway, special delivery from Hope, Arkansas. Who doesn't need a little Hope is this day and age?. KCIV's and KFIII's, in Black Ash and Ebony, respectively. I will be doing a Heresy IV comparison, even though I know the answer already.
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If they would have said glue used by NASA and not Elmer's wood glue it would of comforted me as well. Elsie just doesn't have the marketing power of say NASA namebrand. If the NASA glue can hold up in space there is no doubt that it can hold up to decades of yearly ragers with the LS's at maximum load and movement from inside to out.
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Schu, most excellent on the matched pair. PWK is rolling over in his grave seeing twins split up at birth. Maybe someday they will be reunited. One with cig burns on top and the other with potted plant marking; but no matter they will recognize each other and bond.
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Nice, glad to hear ying/yang made it. Fyi, I found where #2 pair is located(serial no. 0003 and 0004). They are up in Pennsylvania. Asking price $13,999 for the pair.
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18 hours ago, Sonicman said:
Hoooh Ahhhh, you got me Schu Man, no, you are not my confessor.....or PROFESSOR.
And yes, I am looking for answers and to be educated, just not by you.
We all need to be schooled every once in awhile. Get yourself a pair of LaScalas and let the other noise be drowned out by the audio excellence of Klipsch.
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9 minutes ago, Schu said:
I wonder who has #1...
PWK museum.....
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30 minutes ago, Sonicman said:
wdecho, cool, I buy that.
Pete switched them, and he seems happy.
Can I switch gears? Pete, others, what about the low end? What are you finding in the bass bottom? 51hz seems high as I'm coming off a low of 34hz I believe with my speakers. Do you feel a sub is going to be necessary?
Where I have them placed makes a huge difference. I have a couple pairs of 3/4 inch LSI's and I do hear the low end better on the bigger box. Also it really depends on what style of tunes you are listening to. If you are a techno-rapper. Additional Bass is a must with these animals.
Sure I have a couple sunfire BC Subs to give it an extra kick when needed for movies. But the style of music I listen to along with the placement gives me what I need on the low end. If you are looking for a little more on the low end look at some K43 drivers. I roll these out for all my block party's.
You could always look into a pair of cornscalas. The CW's have slightly less sensitivity but get that low end you are looking for while the LS"s have a higher sensitivity with a minimal low end of ~50 Hz. Combine the best of both worlds.
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10 minutes ago, Schu said:
I've been advised... that the annual sales of the modern new La Scala II is probably under 50 units a year, hence my initial comment that I don't see how all seventy 70th's were probably never made... unless they made all 140 book matched speakers in one run and they have been sitting unsold the entire time. I found that some what unlikely because they really don't stock a bunch of the regular units and they are made to order.
Interesting. I checked with a dealer and he has pairs 05 of 70 thru 16 of 70. He has 12 pairs alone. I am not sure of how many Klipsch dealers there are but I suspect there are quite a few . Adorama most likely have(had) 24 through 34 , So they had at least 10 pairs.
70 LaScala pairs of 70th Anniversary's sounds pretty cool. An excellent sales slogan that pulled me in...............
I may be in pursuit of the holy grail 69 of 70 . I'm on the hunt.
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1 minute ago, Sonicman said:
Haha, I'm livin' it because passion is an amazing thing. I wouldn't be guilty of calling myself an audiophile but I have a passion for music.
Hayden Fry once said, "scratch where it itches" Get yourself a pair of La Scalas and let the world(neighborhood) know who's home tonight!
fyi, if you live in a gated community even better, gives you a buffer prior to the fuzz knocking on your door for disorderly house and noise ordinance tixs.
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Don't be sorry, live life like there is no tomorrow and buy a pair of 70th's.
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Because of the early hefty price tag on the 70ths, most were sitting idle. When mine finally made it, all had loads of bird shite and dust on the boxes. All on pallets. No digs or dents on the merchandise. Good thoughts for Schu and his ying-yang arrival. .
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5 minutes ago, Sonicman said:
No Pete, Schu is not calm. He's hyper defensive and worried about being screwed. He's not gonna be. You proved it. He appears to think everyone is out to get him. The deal is legit I believe. Cut him slack? Fugetaboutit.
The beauty of the sound is in the ears of the beholder. If you love the sound, and you love the look, the fact that you got such a great deal should make you love them even more.
Congrats
I'll drink to that! Adorama are a band of bumbling idiots. The pain can only be contained by JD and laxatives. I can only have happy thoughts for Schu and his procurement of some very fine high end, limited edition audio speakers.
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I think Schu is pretty calm, especially since he is waiting for these bad boys to come into his possession. There are speakers on the line here, so cut him some slack. As far as your interests of the sonics. The cabinets are designed to spec. We're talkin' 1 inch MDF with Walnut veneers. The crossover for the high, mid and low ranges are tuned at the factory. Accept that these are a badass speaker. The LSII heritage sound great, but these 70th's look and sound so much better IMO. Stay thirsty!
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31 minutes ago, Sonicman said:
So here's a question for you. What is the exact significance of sequential matching serial #'s? Is it because of the book matched veneers? Or, is it a sonic matching of speakers in the lab in Hope, AK? Are there "left" & "right" speakers in the matched pair?
And, if they're not matched, is the value less? And are they sonically inferior?
Book matched wood veneers. The Queensland Walnut leaves are kept in order to provide a mirror image.
" – like turning the pages of a book. This gives each speaker an aesthetically appealing, completely unique appearance of its wood veneer."
The crossovers are identical, Of course the passives used in the circuit have to meet tolerances and would be difficult to detect any differences by ear, but one could put on a scope to verify.
The 70th Anniversary are the last to be made with Queensland Walnut: This complimented with the silver luster cloth make for a spectacular looking speaker.
Left and Right Just to be different I put my left on the right and the right on the left. Doh!
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1 hour ago, Schu said:
I was surprised that it's a separate operation that does the local delivery.
I called tying to confirm Thursday delivery and they said that they all probably call me on Thursday to set up the home delivery after the " long haul trucking company brings them to the local office.
I wonder if I can just pick them up Thursday night at the receiving facility... it's already been 14 days since placing the initial order.
Fairly typical. The Freight company's work with numerous warehouse drop centers. Standard middleman setup. They come on a semi and then they move them to an over the road truck to haul residential. Most neighbors dont like semi's coming in and out. You could but I would let them do the work. Just setup a time and a date and you'll ordering a blooming onion and dropping beats.
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serial numbers to the brain....... Fyi, once mine arrived at Dallas shipping hub they sat for 5 days. So I called the shipping outfit to check status. I'm glad I did. they had the wrong phone number. I found the shipping company TWW more helpful than Adorama.
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22 hours ago, Schu said:
You're so ignorant I can not (and DONT NOT want to) have a conversation with you. You cannot even read the content and comprehend intent and make proper determinations.
Go obsess about someone else because you're about as troublesome and important to me as something stuck to the bottom of my shoe.
You'll be smiling soon with the thunder down under. The way I look at it I had some extra cash under the floor mats of my car... The bright idea of adding a third pair of LS's(70's) to the collection hit me. Now I have more leg room in the car to boot......... By the way they sound great, they look spectacular and they are real.
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22 hours ago, jimjimbo said:
OK, so if I'm not mistaken, when these first came out, the MSRP was $14000.00 per pair.....$6999.00, each....Please correct me if I'm wrong...however, I challenge you to name another speaker company that has sold 70 pairs of $14000.00 speakers in 18 months. Not gonna happen. So then, when sales were slow at that price point, the sharks (Adorama, and others) started circling......and started acquiring, and offering at significant discounts. OK, fine. Now, it's summer 2017/2018, and it's a slow time in the retail business, for everything.... Again, I challenge you to name another speaker company kicking a$$ selling $6000.00 pairs of speakers. Oh, but now, Adorama puts out this grand sale that they can't even guarantee are matched pairs. And they're having issues with figuring out what makes a "set"....Really? And, and.....the (beauty is in the eye of the beholder), beautiful, wonderful Australian walnut is not everyone's cup of tea, nor is the notion that should you (Heaven forbid) want to sell them somewhere down the road, you have to come to the realization that you paid a very significant premium for a cute little plaque or whatever it is, and a special veneer.....Well, good luck with that.
Really! The Adorama sales folks sell hair dryers to high end audio equipment. Their heads are pretty much in the sand. I had to spoon feed them through the entire process. I would have only hoped that my 1.5 month grindfest would have pointed them in the right direction. Keep fighting the good fight Schu, they will get it right.
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23 hours ago, Sonicman said:
Schu, I'm with you.
Don't know when in 2016 they were released, so let's say it was late as December '16. That means in 18 months they haven't sold all 70 pairs of LS 2 AE speakers?? They couldn't sell more than 4 pair per month?? But, they're still not all sold yet. Adorama isn't the only place selling em. If Adorama had about 8 on the floor, and there's half a dozen more closed box units out there, they maybe sold 3 pairs a month !!! Worldwide ???? Where are the Klipsch fans OR is there a bamboozle by Klipsch as they keep cranking em out based on demand?
Would the proud owner/owners of LS 2 Anniversary Edition with ser#'s 0071/0072 and higher please report in......
However, still a helluva deal at less than base unit price no matter the ser# 🤑
I can vouch for 24 of 70. I am also aware of 34 of 70. Great set of performance speakers. The Thunder from down under was just as I expected.
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If price drops within 30 days of invoice, they grant the refund of the difference. Note if you don't specify you want your credit card reimbursed they will attempt to refund you as store credit; Which is fine , if that is what you want. I did not want that.
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JBL 4648H and JBL 2451H Horns cross over active/passive
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My goal is to bring controlled sound. I have a pair of EJ1-X and TL3512 which were pulled from a theatre as well. Which I also do not have an adequate crossover. Not really sure which setup would be best. Based on the specs I have read I have made a choice.