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On 10/29/2018 at 1:56 PM, Westcoastdrums said:
"Because 58Hz is a heck of a lot deeper then what I thought it would be"
YESOn 11/11/2018 at 9:43 AM, YK Thom said:There is actually surprisingly little bass below 50hz in most music. Below that for the most part (especially if you are listening to rock or country), what you get is sub bass.
People are so used to seeing "20-20,000Hz" everywhere they expect their speakers to go down to 20Hz. And you are correct that *real* musical instruments - string basses, contrabassoons, tubas, timpani, etc. are well in the range that the Heresy reproduces. One notable exception would be a pipe organ. It would be hard pressed for any speaker to reproduce a 32-ft length pipe resonating.
When anyone says the Heresy has weak bass, I just play a well-recorded classical piece with an ff hit on the bass drum and that's that. The first movement of Copland's third symphony or the third movement of a Tchaikovsky 6th would do. It's extremely tight bass with absolutely no boom.
Now if you're a rap/hip-hop fan, those are artificial bass notes created by a synthesizer/drum machine. A computer can generate a waveform of almost any frequency, but they are not natural musical instruments. For that, just get a powerful subwoofer.
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OK, I finally got the NAD. I can't do an A/B/X, but to me it seems to a) provide a better low-end response, and b) tone down the harshness of the mids I was experiencing. I am currently listening with Tone Defeat on, and so far I don't feel the need to increase the bass or use the - gasp Bass Boost - at low volumes. The dynamic range seems fantastic.
So, I'd say this integrated amp is much better suited to the Heresy than the Sony AV receiver (which was less than half the price). I used to be of the "all amps sound the same if not clipping" camp.
My one complaint - the output level seems to top out with the volume at only 12 o'clock, but I can still get 100dB SPL out of the horns on von Karajan's Zarathustra opening. Of course, this is a 50wpc vs. 100wpc Sony.
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15 hours ago, rjp said:
I have the Heresey III and the Schiit Loki bought it for exactly the reason described. I found that while it did nicely attenuate the treble and upper mids, no amount of adjustment could make harshness disappear if it was there in the recording. It would just lack treble and still be harsh. The Klipsch sound that is sometimes called harsh is not too much of any frequency, it is something else in my opinion. I still think the H3 are the best speakers I’ve ever heard, they just sometimes get a little harsh. That’s part of the deal. A piece of tissue paper over mid horn works better than EQ, but I prefer them unaltered with proper placement on floor against a wall. I no longer use the Loki.
Thanks for the input, this helps.
As I listen to more recordings, I'm finding that many recordings of the same work (classical symphonies) sound poor, but some sound fantastic. I guess the Heresy just needs good recordings...
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1 hour ago, garyrc said:
There is no way that 60 dB is "moderately loud" unless something pretty bizarre is affecting perception.
Or unless the SPL meter is my grandma, where anything I play at any volume is "blaring"...well, unless it's Perry Como or Bing Crosby.
Seriously though, I always learn a lot from your posts - thank you for that!
I think with these speakers and a 1W amp, it's just not going to cut it for the OP, unless he/she/they listen to Muzak at elevator levels.
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The real experts will chime in here, but from what I see...
The KG4s apparently have a 94dB sensitivity, which is good but not really great. They are bass reflex, so they're not going to be all that sensitive. So driving with a 1W amp isn't going to give you that much sound especially in something other than a small room.
It really all depends on how loud you like to listen to music. Punching the info into an amp power calculator, at a reasonable listening distance (9 feet) one watt will give you about 78.5dB of SPL, which isn't exactly room shaking.
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54 minutes ago, Rivernuggets said:
All this doesn't matter 'cause you're looking for a modern piece. That NAD will be excellent. 👍
Thanks for the input! I'm going to go for it.
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22 minutes ago, Rivernuggets said:
Nice. Still haven't heard III's yet.
Muddying the waters, but a nice vintage Harman Kardon 730 or 430 would be a great match, too. The prices are up compared to a couple years ago.
Thanks. Vintage on eBay kinda scares me though...plus, using this as a system for video watching, so I need a modern remote control...
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1 hour ago, jimjimbo said:
The NAD sounds good , dump the Sony.
Will do, thanks for the confirmation!
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12 hours ago, Marvel said:
Heresy, II, III?
A simple, low cost mod on the original Heresy will help. The II and III are smoother out of the box.
Bruce
It's a III. I'm not blaming the Heresy; I'm using it (unfortunately) with the exact kind of amp that's heresy to a Heresy - an inexpensive Sony 100wpc SS receiver. So I'm thinking how can I improve the sound without spending big $$$ - Loki, a new NAD 326BEE integrated amp, or...both...?
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Anyone use a Loki tone control with Heresy? I'm not so much interested in boosting the bass as I am in toning down the upper mid/highs harshness on some material at higher volumes. Also looking at a new amp, but curious if anyone has tried this combination...
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10 hours ago, M_Klipsch said:
No, you just need a separate room, a non public area where she doesn’t have to look at them. Worked for me. Actually if my LS-BRs looked like those new ones my wife might even allow them in a “public” area. Nah probably not.
I hear you. The problem is, my house has no "man cave" space and even if it did, I'm not the type to hole up in a room by myself; I like the family room where I can hear the music from the kitchen and dining room as well...can't have everything I suppose...
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You know what's sad? Having the cash for LaScalas but you still can't buy them because the wife disallows it.
I guess the joke goes that "it's time to upgrade the wife"...
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3 minutes ago, Veaux said:
That's because you're not a rapist. Unlike certain Supreme Court Justice's....
And would you say the same about a former President, or does this only apply to Republicans?
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I have a pair of Heresy IIIs driven by a pedestrian Sony 100wpc SS receiver. I'm experiencing the expected harsh mids and upper end. I want to replace the amp but at a reasonable cost.
Will the NAD 316BEE V2 provide improved sonics making it worth the purchase?
Ideally I'd love a SET amp, but out of the price range right now...
Heresy III’s on the way!
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Once I moved from a 100wpc Best Buy Sony receiver to a 50wpc NAD C326BEE (RIP BEE) I found improved bass and a smoother, softer mid/high end I learned to love my Heresy IIIs all over again.