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So after reading through this thread I wasn't sure which way I was going to go as far as stiffening up the sides of the base bin. These are 1980 industrial LaScalas. As you can see by the pic I painted these cabinets with Duratex. At this point I don't want to add panels to the side it's a lot more work I could make the fins for inside the base bin but according to this thread it creates other issues and then at the end of this thread I read about the trim. I went out and bought this heavy duty piece of 1/8" thick aluminum channel and think it would do a fantastic job stiffening the outer lip Edge of both sides of the bass bin. Question is should I just do the base bin or do the whole Outer Edge of the cabinet. I think it would spiff up the cabinet and add a little detail to just a blend black cabinet but at the same time I'm hoping it would kill any resonance you get from the base bin. Any opinions out there?
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On 4/5/2023 at 8:21 AM, Dneu2011 said:
I have some parts from two pairs of Heresy 1s that have the E-Networks. Great for anyone wanting to build their own cabinets and get most of the parts for Heresy’s or fix their Heresy I’s.
- Four K77 tweeters (all 100% working) - $50 each
- Four K22 woofers (all 100% working) - $80 each
- Two original 2.5 mh inductors from the E network (pulled working) - selling both for $40
- Four screw terminal speaker posts - $10 per pair
I can add pictures of the K22 or the terminals upon request. I have them boxed up and can take out for pictures if needed.
I would love to sell in packages if possible but open to offers. Shipping calculated separately from Houston, TX.
I have an interest in the inductors. will try to PM
On 4/5/2023 at 8:21 AM, Dneu2011 said:I have some parts from two pairs of Heresy 1s that have the E-Networks. Great for anyone wanting to build their own cabinets and get most of the parts for Heresy’s or fix their Heresy I’s.
- Four K77 tweeters (all 100% working) - $50 each
- Four K22 woofers (all 100% working) - $80 each
- Two original 2.5 mh inductors from the E network (pulled working) - selling both for $40
- Four screw terminal speaker posts - $10 per pair
I can add pictures of the K22 or the terminals upon request. I have them boxed up and can take out for pictures if needed.
I would love to sell in packages if possible but open to offers. Shipping calculated separately from Houston, TX.
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Not sure why but two people that were looking for them have not replied. I'm in no rush they're just sitting in my spare room with a bunch of other drivers and speakers all KlipschFinding a CF-woofer is like searching for a needle in a haystack , but 2 woofers , wow
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It makes a beast of a center Channel. LOLNice looking speaker BTW.
Wanted the 2s, but like my 1s.
There will be other lookers.
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I guess he found one already.[mention=83948]doobiesd[/mention]
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I will go with K43 E in my industrials. My 1977 were used in 1 home before I got them and are in great shape so will probably leave the. K33 E square mag. Do you know if those would be the 100 RMS or the newer 150 RMS.you cant fit , cast frame K-43's in a Lascala unless you grind off at a straight angle the k-43 rounded basket , the k-43 cast frame is wider than the walls of the LS dog house .
BTW the woofers on Ebay belonged to [mention=28400]twistedcrankcammer[/mention] so it's in great shape , the last 2 woofers are K-33
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Thanks for the heads up. Looks like they are being auctioned. I'm still debating the new K33 E or the new K43 E. I might place a bid later but most likely will come close to the new product price. I would rather to just buy new so they all match and I know they are perfect sonically. I have gotten some good info in this thread and just want to make the right decision.[mention=71707]Tom Bird[/mention], some vendor on eBay just listed a half dozen K-43s if you are in the market…
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Pm sent.Looking for a replacement. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I can't find my pics of my woofers. I will verify when I get home from vacation.
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Everything is OEM.Sounds like you need to open the doghouse then. I’d get genuine replacements and none of the “generic” replacements. If they had Dayton caps who knows what maybe in the doghouse.
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Already pulled apart and cleaned all connections. I went as far as pulling the horns that had some good discoloration and repainted them. Painted the outside with Duatex because the factory finish was rough and everything stuck to them. Also AA networks had Dayton audio precision caps in there but I swapped them out for JEM performance (Klipsch approved) caps. The only thing I didn't do was replace internal wiring. Don't get me wrong they do sound great and I know I have room acoustic issues that also need to be addressed but being from 1980 and used basically every day close to the ocean just has me wondering if they are a little played out. I know they are pro speakers but that is a long time.
How do your LSI sound compared to the LS? My personal experience with LSI that were in service tend to have loose connectors, loose screws, loose mid drivers, maybe dry gaskets. I’d go through and disassemble and clean everything before replacing drivers. Could be debris in the doghouse. Could be crossover.
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I have 3 industrials as my front stage and 2 1977 regular LS as my rears. It's my front industrials that came out of a funhouse/amusement park that I'm wondering about. Wondering if refresh with new driver and new diaphragms are in order.The link I provided wasn't a recone kit but the full K-43.
Tom, If I were using these at home and you wanted to replace your K-33 woofers, I would stick with the K-33.
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All components of my 3 industrials an 2 1977. LS are working. My concern with my 3 industrials are they came from a funhouse/amusement park and wonder if they aren't as tight as they should be. The sound great but always wonder if newer drivers/replacements would sound tighter/better.if the Voice coil is defective and the cone is intact , the VC can be replaced without replacing the cone
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To be honest. I would try one just for the experience but I would rather buy OEM.3 aftermarket kits , around 63$ each + shipping , you supply the labor + the glue and epoxy
https://reconingspeakers.com/products-page/klipsch-k43e-aftermarket-recone-kit-4-ohm/
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I did click on it but I didn't read the full information. I thought the price was for them to recone it. My mistakeYou should click on the actual link. It’s for the driver, not a recone kit.
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The K33 E sounds much better to me plus I know it's OEM.that's right .........all you can buy are Aftermarket kits + the glue , epoxy costs and shipping are added on top of the price of the kit ,
129$ for a brand new K-33 from klipsch is a bargain ....
https://reconingspeakers.com/products-page/klipsch-k43e-aftermarket-recone-kit-4-ohm/
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Thanks, I didn't know that their was a recone kit for the K43 E. I kept hearing that their are no "Klipsch OEM" kits for alot of the drivers so I lost all hope of that. I have always wondered how good the driver will sound reconed. I would imagine if done correctly and with the OEM it would sound the same.
https://reconingspeakers.com/products-page/original-klipsch-k-43-ep-15-woofer-121535-for-la-scala-industrial-version/
A bit more expense. They may also be the cast frame, which is what the K-43s were in my Klipsch MWM cabinets. They won't fit in a regular LS.
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Thank you for that info. That's what I was wondering RE: the k43 E. Since their is no "klipsch OEM" replacement for it.klipsch used to have 2 woofers , k-33-E 100wpc , K-43 E 150 wpc- The K-33-E had more bass at low volumes than a k-43-E -
the new K-33-E can also handle more power 150 wpc , so it replaces the K-43-E and the older K-33-E
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That's how I roll. "Out of the house" lol of course with some jazz like stuff as well.The K-43 was in the pro LS and in the MWM cabinets. The upper bass is cleaner than the K-33.
K-33 has been rated for 150watts for a long time. I don't know what the K-43 is rated at. Either way, a 25 wpc amp would drive you out of the house.
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Also wasnt looking for something more powerfully just wondering how close in specs.Well, if the newer 33 version is more power handling to the older 33, my question would be, is the newer version more powerful than the 43e.
Depending of course at what characteristics you are after.
Would be neat to see the difference the old 33 and the new one via, a spec sheet for each. Would maybe search for such, if anecdotal is all you have now.
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I have searched for some of rhis info and not found what I was looking for in specs but I'm not great at these searches and don't know all the proper places to look. I will do more when I get back from vacation.Well, if the newer 33 version is more power handling to the older 33, my question would be, is the newer version more powerful than the 43e.
Depending of course at what characteristics you are after.
Would be neat to see the difference the old 33 and the new one via, a spec sheet for each. Would maybe search for such, if anecdotal is all you have now.
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Yes I have the industrial LaScala with the k43 E but it was mentioned in this thread that the newer K33 E has a higher power handling capability. When I looked at Deans link to speaker exchange it says it can replace the k43 E. I was just wondering how close it would be to the k43 E.Thinking 43 was in the LaScala
Pro version [mention=71707]Tom Bird[/mention]Bird...
Doing a search of the archives likely will have a trove of information. Thanks!
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Woofers k22R, k22k and k24.
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