[Rear speakers]

Thanks Wuzzzer, yes I forgot to mention it's going to be a 5.1.  thanks for providing info for both setups, Gary

[Rear speakers]

Question for rear speaker location for surround sound.

 

What would be in a smaller room (15x15) the optimum height and distance apart from one another for my rear speakers.

Thanks in advance..

[Amp for 5.2]

14 minutes ago, Majestictone said:

Gary,

 

On my X4700, it has 2 sub outs as well as all the other 9 channels and bi-amped for 11 channels. 

Thanks ok that makes sense, thank you!

[Amp for 5.2]

1 hour ago, Majestictone said:

If I believe I'm correct, you don't use a separate power amp to run your subs since they have their own dedicated amplifiers built in already. 

Thanks, that makes sense.

[Amp for 5.2]

1 hour ago, Majestictone said:

Well, it sounds pretty darn good now but then again, I've only had the new receiver and the SVS PB16 Ultra in service since this past weekend. My ears are getting dialed in as well as the settings on my sub to accommodate my viewing area.  I know watching streaming movies vs UHD Blue rays will always sound different and I have yet had the chance to play a movie but plan on doing so this weekend. Since the receiver is "rated for 125W into 2 channels driven" this isn't a true indication on how much power wattage is going to the speakers and manufactures will not give us the true data but I am pretty sure it is not 125 watts into 9 channels and it was true, the chassis of the receiver would be twice the size and 80 lbs. heavier than it is now. 

 

Most of my listening is 80% movies 20% music and I am not watching the movies at reference levels but my thought process would seem to indicate that at reference levels, you would need some power to get the most out of my speakers as I was told on this forum when I purchased my RF5's that I shouldn't wimp on power because these speakers love to be driven and that has been in the head ever since which is why I am thinking that I "need" that extra power. 

Thanks Majestictone, I'm 80/20 the other way so I'm gonna have an emphasis on how good an amp pushes the RF-7lll I have.  I am clueless on what I can use for speakers on a music orientated amp, can most amps accommodate a sub woofer or 2 woofers, can they work with centre channel speakers or is there any advantage to use a centre channel speaker if indeed you can?

Any thoughts on the above us appreciated.

Thanks, Gary

[Amp for 5.2]

29 minutes ago, garyclayton said:

Thanks, I'll look into those ones as well!

I was looking on the back of the Monolith 9X that there are no subwoofer outputs.  How would I go about connecting  2x SLP120 subwoofers since those subs are internally powered?

Thanks, Gary

[Amp for 5.2]

1 hour ago, MercedesBerater said:

@garyclayton   I have four RF7ii's in my theater,  and i'm in the same boat as you.

 

i'm waiting for the Monolith 9X to come in stock... apparently it's a monster and incredible value. 

 

I run four RF7ii's and an RC64ii off a  pioneer VSX823? --    it's MAX 80watt per channel, 2ch driven.

 

it DOES work - but  i have heard that the big towers dip down to like 2.7ohm and i'm sure this cheap receiver i have is leaving a lot on the table.

 

i'm looking to go Marantz AV7706 and a Monolith 9X --- everyone seems to say,  go separates if you can & the RF towers are all power hungry.

Thanks, I'll look into those ones as well!

[Amp for 5.2]

36 minutes ago, MercedesBerater said:

@Majestictone   capacitor life is in the thousands and thousands of hours - often referenced as 30 years.

everything you're looking at *should* be fine.   but new(er) might be less failure/maintenance prone. 

Good points, thank you!

[Amp for 5.2]

37 minutes ago, MercedesBerater said:

@garyclayton   if you are new to the scene -  AudioGon website is a used swapmeet  - sometimes good stuff on there.  and cragislist is still a good option. 

Thank you, I will check it out!

[Amp for 5.2]

44 minutes ago, MC39693 said:

@garyclayton, I've used a Denon x4300h in a room similar size, but with 4 x Heresy and 2 ten inch subs, so you should not have a problem if you buy an 8500!

Where are you in Canada?

Used market is pretty strong in some of our larger cities; Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary (a bit less).

Once you close in on what you want, you could check for a demo or used unit best place is on Canada Audio Mart, buyer beware as always!

 

Full disclosure, I am selling my Denon to go to a vintage receiver which will run front L/R and 2 channel music,  and 3 channel power amp to provide 5.2 channel HT.

 

Best wishes in your search.

 

Thanks MC, I'm in the Vancouver area.  I will check out that site "Canada Audio Mart"

Thanks for your help and good luck with your search.  How much power are you looking for in your 2 channel amp?

Gary

[Amp for 5.2]

23 minutes ago, Majestictone said:

Hey Gary,

 

Let me rephrase it, while the X4700 is perfect, I wanted more power to drive the speakers by adding an amplifier to the X4700. I am not sure if the amp would add a color character to the sound output such as bright, warm, middy in tone or am I such a newb that I have no idea what I am talking about ?..🤪 Also with what amps I have looking at, they seem to be 15-20 yrs old and would buy such an older amp would cause issues with caps and resistors leaking down the road? (Acurus A125 - Sunfire Cinema - Adcom GFA7000 - B&K Reference 200-5 Rotel RBM1075) or would I be better off with a New Outlaw 5000 ?

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So you're 4700 is 125 watts, how much wattage are you thinking you need for your speakers?

Gary

[Amp for 5.2]

1 hour ago, Majestictone said:

Kind of looking to do the same here but in 5.1 config, currently running RF5's, RS3's RC7, SVS PB16 Ultra, powered by Denon X4700 but looking to some more dynamics to my set up. I understand that certain amps may be too bright for the Klipsch's and looking @ 5 channel amp around the $600 to $800 range. 

Majestictone are you thinking the 4700 us too bright for your system?  Second question, what exactly does that reference mean in relation to what your looking for in an amp?

Thanks, Gary

[Amp for 5.2]

9 hours ago, Ceptorman said:

Hey Gary...sounds like you're more of a 2 channel guy....me too. How about separates, a pre/amp combo? Those RF7llls are power hungry. 

There are many variables, but your budget will tell you where to look. Will you listen to vinyl, CDs, stream? Room treatments can help a lot also, separate listening room?

Is buying used an option? I believe there's a pretty healthy after market in many areas of Canada, you can save a lot. 

Hi Ceptorman, thanks again for your expert advice.  I would be listening to vinyl, CD's, and streaming.  I can get a real good deal on a new Denon 8500 ($3000 cdn) ($2400 US).  It's rated 150 watt in Stereo do you think that would be enough to get the most out of the RF-7lll speakers?  If it is enough then I would be able to just have this one amp for all my needs..if I were to go this route if I understand this correctly the SLP12's or SLP15's have their own built in amps so in stereo I would hear the towers and the amps?

Is there any reason or is it possible to bring the centre channel into the music scenario?

Sorry for all the questions as I am a beginner on all this and appreciate listening to advise from people with your experience and knowledge.

Thank you Ceptorman, Gary

[Amp for 5.2]

Hi all, I have the RF7lll towers.  Want to add the RC64lll centre, also the RP600m, and 2 subs not sure if it will be 12s or15s.  The room is 300 sq ft and listening to music is my main desire.  Can you all recommend an Amp that will work for this 5.2 and give me the power to drive the RF7lll's.

Thanks all, Gary

[Surround speaker 5.2]

ToThanks Ceptorman and Amstaff, I am in the Vancouver BC area, I purchased my speakers from a company in Maple Ridge ( Vancouver suberb) called Haney Sound and Appliances.

I tried to get car at Klipsch to get their recommendations however was unable to get anyone by phone or email. I really appreciate your help.  Ceptorman, those recommendations sound excellent I will be checking them out.  My main use will be to listen to music over movies however I will be doing both.  Any recommendations you might have for an amp for these speakers as a 5.2 system?

Thanks again, Gary

[Surround speaker 5.2]

I want to build a 5.2 surround system built around my recently purchased

RF-7lll speakers.  Can you fellow Klipsch speaker lovers recommend the Klipsch matches to these towers.  The room is about 300 sq ft.  So I need a recommendation for the centre channel, 2 rear speakers and 2 subwoofers that match up with the RF-7's.

Thanks all, Gary

[Gary]

Thank you, at this time I'm gonna hang onto it.

[Gary]

Thanks for your advice, much appreciated.

[Gary]

That's good to know, this amp us RMS 120 @8 and 130@4 so I should be safe! 

thanks for your help Oicu812

[Gary]

TigerwoodsKhorn, I won't have them to loud for sure.  So the clipping noise is audible so that's a good thing, I'll be sure to listen for it as the unit warms up.

Thanks

[Gary]

I am anxious to give it a try Ceptorman, thank you.

[Gary]

Thanks for the clipping visualization Oicu812, so basically underpowered amps will destroy your speakers if you're asking too much of them.  Any recommendations on an amp for the RF7-lll that would be just to power them for CD's, records, and streamed music?  Also if I decided to go surround as well would you recommend a 2 amp system or is there an AVR that would do a good job for both applications.

Thanks, Gary

[Gary]

Thanks Ceptorman I will give it a try, still have to purchase the wiring.  Speakers just arrived yesterday..

[Gary]

Wuzzzer I was thinking the same, a lot of the medium to lower priced surround amps don't seem to have much wattage.  My old amp was very powerful and expensive in its day so I'm sure it will offer decent power at 120@8 and 130@4.

[Gary]

Thanks for your advice, unfortunately I don't have anyone that I can go to trial various amps.

 

With underpowering as long as I'm not blasting the speakers would I be safe to assume that I shouldn't have to worry about clipping?