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11 hours ago, mikebse2a3 said:
IMHO it’s best to look at these McIntosh Loudness and “Broadband Design” EQ Tone Controls as (best and most appropriately) used for less than ideal recordings and should be adjusted by ear to taste depending on the recordings.
I find their use very valuable in widening the amount of recordings that I can enjoy through my system.
miketn
Here you can see from the McIntosh MA6200 manual the operation range and suggestions for their use.
thanks for the manual info quite interesting!
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Hello , im starting to experiment with eq and variable loudness control with Klipsch Forte 2. So, just qurious what others have done or do succesfully by using equaliser knobs with their Klipsch. Dont know much about eq setting currves etc and i know that every room and ears are different, however this is how my ma 6200 eq looks like
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Hi, i'm not speaking about Forte placement in general but specifically in corners in a 45degree style and if that works thankss
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Hi,
I want to try placing my Fortes in corners like PWK suggested however i have some questions about this.
First, is a passive radiator speaker suitable for this? For example with the back corners about 8 inches from the rear/ side walls? Second i have good corners only at the short wall ( 18 x 15 room) so im not sure if it is best to be 45 degrees toe in or can you have them a little more open to face the opposite corner diagonally? With some first attempts i really like them that way (!) and wonder if others with Fortes/Chorus have them this way
Thanks.
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Thanks, this makes sense
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Yes the setting and distance are very nice that's why i insist for the optimum at this placement (long wall) and dont want to go back at the short wall set up where i sit further away.
Sound is between the two i believe ... maybe (not sure yet) a little more pressure from the left side wich is the one closer to front-wall
Toe in is not much,roughly at the arms of the sofa.
Also, quite important, the right speaker is in front of a balcony door (thick double glass) covered by a curtain.
i remember reading a reviewer ,Jim Smith i believe, suggesting equal distance from speakers rather than exact wall placement due to the fact that wall contructions are not always perfect. However Fortes with passive Radiatosr are quite sensible to wall distance that why the question
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Hi, speakers about 9 feet apart centers - LP about 12 feet
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Hi,
At my current set up with Klipsch forte ii the wall behind them is not completely parallel so if i place them at the same distance in front of wall say about 10 inches the Left speaker is closer about 2" to the LP.
I can bring them equidistant to the LP by bringing the right speaker a little more out of the wall say 12 inches but given the fact that they have the passive radiator behind is this the right approach? in other words which is more important to be equal? the distance betwenn speaker and wall behind or the distance between listener and speakers?
side wall distances are not the same either but given the directivity of the horns this is not my first concern right now.
thanks and Happy new year to all.
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42 minutes ago, mdm7eb said:
For what it's worth, I went from an McIntosh MX110 and MC240 to an McIntosh C41 and MC152 (vintage tube to modern solid state). I am running Forte IIIs.
I did not notice a huge difference between tube amp vs solid state amp. The differences I observed was better and tighter bass. I am not sure if its the solid state topology driving this or the increase in watts -- 55 to 200+. I came away thinking the Forte's like watts.
Now, on the preamp side, I did notice a big change. I chalk this up to the much lower noise floor of the C41 compared to the MX110. Did I lose some tube magic? Yes. But, what I got back in return was sharper, clearer, mids and highs. However, at very loud volumes, it was not subtle or soft with the solid state vs the tube pre. This might be an artifact of the Forte IIIs themselves?
Both the tube and solid state electronics worked very well with Forte's. Good luck on your journey -- you can't make a wrong choice.
Helpful thanks.
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On 3/22/2022 at 6:44 PM, Schu said:
if you're happy with mac gear, just enjoy. no need for more amplification.
are you 'missing' some additional qualities... that's tough to say because not everyone can hear the differences and if they can, they might not like what they hear.
Agree, I'm happy i have it for 10 years already without changing it. Just hearing things about that tube sound with Klipsch heritage, and also about a fuller sound at lower volumes with a bigger autoformer Mac like mc2100 ,2205 etc
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Thank you, the ..."problem" is that the ma6200 is imho an overall very nice sounding unit that you have to spend some money to maybe achieve an improvement with an extra unit. For now i won't look for a pair of separates (pre - power amp) just one unit to combine with my Mac.
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Or maybe an early Mc power amp like mc2100/250 with auto formers which give a more tube like flavor
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Hi ,having an ma6200 tha can be used also as preamp or power amp i'm thinking of trying tubes in the chain with my klipsch fortes ii .Which is the best part of my 6200? Is it better to buy a tube power amp ( sound valves st70 for example) or a tube preamp and the ma6200 pre?
Thank you
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I played each speaker at a time and both do resonate at very low bass notes. (The track is TI-DE from KOKOROKO really nice bassy track). However the one i noticed first the distortion resonates maybe a little more. I also saw one or two similar threads about a similar issue with Fortes.
I didnt changed the wiring yet but i checked and tighten the cable connections.
Also i taped the speakers with my fist at the sides and noticed that the most resonant speaker doesnt seem as stiff and rigid (like the wood being lighter) if that means something
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Just noticed that this light sound when i play the bass tones (not the distortion i heard in the track) comes from both speakers maybe i hear the woofer moving air .?
So I played some music -heavy bass tracks loud and im not sure if it is distortion from the woofer or something that maybe resonates at some frequency .the speaker cabinet perhaps? Moreover i heard that another creaking noise was coming from the Tv furniture which is very to another speaker that i have in the living room.
It's getting late so i will try things again tomorrow and report.
Thanks for the replies
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Thanks for the advise Jason.
Just played some frequencies 20 25 30 and the right woofer starts from one volume point to make a very light sound like paper moving quickly? Really dont know how to describe it .When i push lightly the paper or the rubber surround it stops the noise but probably because i prevent the woofer from further movement?
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Hmm seems complicated to me..i want to clarify that i'm not into technical things or fixing electronic things by my owm but i will try to do my best .
In the meanwhile is it safe to play at moderate levels where i dont hear distortion?
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Just did the light push in both speakers and did not discover any difference
If i want to remove the woofer and check the connections should i lay down the speaker on its back?
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I noticed today with my 1995 Forte ii( as was trying some bass tracks )woofer distortion from one speaker. Its like a crackling sound / resonance when strong bass notes are playing. Its like something is not stable.?
i checked and tighten the screws.when i push with my hand and trying to keep firm the woofers cover where the screws are located seems like the crackling goes but distortion still remains. Its not from the amp either cause i changed the speaker position back in the amp. Any ideas?
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Really can't understand how many people believe klipsch speakers are not so good for stereo imaging. Having them almost 10feet apart 1.5 feet from back wall and just a little toe in gives me a very wide and deep soundstage experience larger than the walls.
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On 10/12/2021 at 8:57 AM, parlophone1 said:
I do not see what is exactly your problem from the description.
If the floor is not completely flat and your speakers wobble on it, than you might consider some sort of adjusting feet under your speakers.
Hight adjusting spikes work for me.
If your intention is to raise the speakers and prevent them to wobble, you could build riser that is closed from four sides and the top. Again, adjusting feet could be build in underneath such riser, so you can have both. I have used rubber math under my speakers with mixed results sound wise. They usually muddied the sound.
Maybe you are right about the mixed results. After having them about one month on the cork mat i just added some thick rubber footers about 2 cm under each leg. There is for sure better detail , better defined bass and imaging no question about it. I'm not sure if this is coming from the mid horn being closer to ear level or because of a better grip/ contact making the bass cleaner.
However, i want to try it for a longer period because the sound i suspect might get a little more tiresome- less relaxed
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Late to this but my 881 on Forte ii is wonderfull- a little smoother than my mcintosh ma6200
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Klipsch Forte near or away from the rear wall debate
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Agree its nice to see everyone's prefered style of listening. I'm going with the oldschool way close to the wall ,max 8inches . after this point things start to get a little loose for me. between 6-8 inches there is nice blend with the wall which is satisfying.
After all along with Chorus its the only model that the manual points the maximum distance from wall !!
Also have them near in corner on of which is formed by back wall and vinyl storage as well