Flevoman
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I think everyone is familiar with the history of the La Scala. Mentioning this, however, adds nothing to this topic.
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33 minutes ago, KT88 said:
Wow, Dutch😀👍
I'm sorry 😂, was not paying attention. It's corrected
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I understand your point, but in my case, a different amplifier has significantly reduced a point of annoyance.
If I had waited six months with this, I would still be listening to the same annoyances now.
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1 hour ago, Bhai said:
I have the Cornwall III and the La Scala AL5 (brand new)!
Haha already feeling quite relieved... I totally agree about the super clean bass... And honestly I do struggle many times after spending big money - usually starts out with deep regrets and ultimately settles in pure joy 🤣 So yeah could totally be my mind...
What do you guys think about the amp? Is the one I have okay or should I get a better one? Should I try to get one with an output for a subwoofer?
First of all, congratulations on your new speakers. You made an excellent choice. However, you've already identified a reason why the speakers might not sound optimal yet—they are brand new. Give them 100 hours to break in. It's quite likely that this will make a difference.
Several factors could be at play now:
- They need time to break in.
- It takes time to get used to the different sound (this played a significant role for me).
- You probably haven't experimented much with placement, toe-in, etc. (I had more difficulty finding the right placement for the La Scala than with the Cornwall).
- The amplifier-speaker combination might not be ideal (this was a reason why it didn't sound optimal for me).
- Your own emotions and doubts can influence your perception (I certainly experienced this too).In the first week, I was convinced my Cornwall 4 was slightly better than the La Scala. A few weeks later, with a different amp that matched better, speakers better positioned, accustomed to the La Scala's sound, I retested Cornwall vs La Scala. I immediately noticed how (relatively) tame the Cornwall sounded—less dynamic, less live feel, small kick drum, voices thinner. It was as if I were listening to a much smaller speaker. The Cornwall 4 seemed to disappear better and sounded a bit fresher, but overall, the La Scala was truly the superior speaker.
Give it some time for breaking in. Experiment with speaker placement. If possible, try different amplifiers.
Edit:I forgot to mention, you're accustomed to a much fuller bass, which adds a certain warmth to the music. I experienced this too. The AL-5 simply has a thinner bass. It took me some time to get used to it, but when I connected the CW4 again recently, I found the bass to be excessively present. I immediately missed the dry, quick bass of the La Scala.
So pls get some time to get used to the sound of the lascala.
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Wow, this sounds like my story. I had the Cornwall 4 and upgraded to the La Scala AL-5 a few months ago. I also struggled initially with the La Scala's sound – hearing aspects I liked better, but also some things I didn't liked at all that made me initially think the Cornwall 4 sounded better then the La Scala. The fact that my Cornwalls are soon going to my brother while the La Scalas stay here indicates my perspective has shifted.
May I ask which Cornwall you had before, and which La Scala you have now? Are the speakers entirely new?
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Let's hope the teaser wil be a bigger horn for the lascala
Edit :I now see that I completely misinterpreted your message, which makes my response nonsensical. Oh well, the wish remains valid. 😇
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Using my common sense, I have the idea that, for the reasons I mentioned earlier, it might be possible that the LaScala, with the right horn sub, could sound even better than the Klipschorn. I've only listened to a Klipschorn for 30 minutes, but my initial impression was that it sounded somewhat dull. One reason for this might be that the midhorn cannot be adjusted in terms of radiation direction, and the low end is not directly aimed at the listening position. Well, speculative thoughts on my part 😉
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It's quite likely that I'm asking this question way too early, and it may not be answerable yet. But I'll give it a shot 😉.
The La Scala AL-5 with the horn sub, let's say size 3, will it sound equivalent to the Klipschorn? Or might this combination possibly even sound a bit better than the Klipschorn? Both have the same midhorn and tweeter, but now the mid and high frequencies are at ear level, while the low is projected directly at the listening position, and without the timedelay that the Klipschorn seems to have. Or is this wishful thinking, and the Klipschorn will always sound different (better).
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I have no experience with a subwoofer, and now I'm wondering two things. If I only listen to music on my AL-5, mainly jazz, acoustic music, and occasionally some light pop – but no electronic music with deep bass, movies, etc. – would a horn sub still add enough to the music to justify purchasing it? And what will the horn sub add, only the lower tones that the LaScala cannot reproduce, or will the entire low range sound more full?
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1 hour ago, OO1 said:
by how much ?
Wishfull thinking??.. 3K here in Europe for the medium one, but knowing this won't happen
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4 hours ago, JohnA said:
I think the Medium is not as large as you think. If I remove the 4 VMPS Larger Sub's, I'll have plenty of room for 2 mediums in my 17' x 18' x 10' den. I don't think anyone posted a pic of it. It is about the same size as a La Scala bass horn, though about 6" wider on each side.
Now, if intense refers to $s, we'll have to wait until this summer. Wanna buy a pair of Acurus A250s? 😉
This pic is a little dark, but the Medium subwoofer is about the same height as one of my subs and 5" wider.
Exactly, it is if you place a 3rd lascala in your room.
2x the lascala has already a huge impact from my opinion (although I really like the look of the latest lascala)
But it's more about the hight what will give me some problems.
If I will go for the XL version I can't place it between my lascalas. The only place left will be next to the speakers and I don't think this is the best position.
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3 hours ago, OO1 said:
factor in a cabinet + plate amp + DSP 4000$ would not be out of line for the smallest unit ,
If you're correct then it will be around the 6000,- Euros here in Europe.
6k for a sub??... 🙄
Let's wait and see but I hope it will be more affordable
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2 hours ago, JohnA said:
A subwoofer cannot be "airy". Since these are horn loaded, the effective radiating area is the area of the mouth, not the driver. But, also since they are horn loaded, the sound is clean. They don't have that subwoofer sound. They're musical and sound "effortless". We listened to (special) AL-5s with the larger 2 and the pairing was excellent. Having the entire bass range horn loaded stood out as clean, detailed and easier to separate instrument sounds.
If you need to go with the Medium because of size, I'd suggest buying 2 to get the max output up to where I'd want it. The Medium will cover all musical notes and most LFE effects.
I'm leaning toward a Large, but 2 Mediums will fit in my room easier.
Thanks for this input. Getting two medium-sized subs might get quite intense 😳. I can't complain about the size of my living room by Dutch standards, but two Klipsch La Scalas and two of these subs... Oof 😄
But apparently, I may have given the wrong impression. By "airy," I mean ease, effortless... When I listen to the AL-5, I'd describe it as air surrounding the music. The smoothness with which the music is produced. Hence, airy 😉
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1 hour ago, dtel said:
I have no idea, but I will say either the 2 and 3 or 4 size (no names yet) would be enough for about any Heritage speaker unless you normally play at insane levels trying to go deaf but these will help with that also.
The low notes will certainly be there. I have no doubt about that. My concern is more about how they are audible. Does size 2 have the same airy and dynamic sonic characteristics as the AL-5? After all, the AL-5 has a 15-inch woofer, while size 2 has an 8-inch one. Intuitively, I would say that an 8-inch woofer might have sonic differences compared to a 15-inch one, more so than a 12-inch would.
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My heart is drawn to the large version for my AL-5, but my setup will probably only allow the medium one.
I can only hope that the medium + AL-5 will be a good match.
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2 hours ago, Chief bonehead said:
That’s why it’s called a teaser. Hopefully another bonehead class on this teaser and what it means to Klipsch heritage.
Oehhhhh... Can I speculate then please?
Can I?.. Can I??(speculate mode on) I think replaceable tops for the La Scala AL-5 and Khorn that transform them into a two-way system.
Something like what someone did with their La Scalas here in the Netherlands. (speculate mode off)
Two of these tops, please, if I am correct 😇
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2 hours ago, MMurg said:
Thank you 👍🏻
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Sorry, but I have to ask.. CAF??
What does this mean?
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If I'm correct, the demo weekend of the upcoming Heritage hornsubs line should have taken place by now. Why haven't we seen any topics about it here? Come on, fellow Klipsch lovers. Spill the beans!!.. What were your impressions? Deluge us with photos. I'm extremely curious about what's coming.
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Thank you for your explanation. However, the subject of "audible differences in a DAC" can actually be omitted when providing the answer. Because whether there is or isn't an audible difference in a DAC is actually secondary in my question. As I mentioned earlier, the audio signal processed by the external DAC goes through a series of other components and is also passed through a completely differently designed product that is equipped with tubes. So, if converting the audio signal from digital to analog yields 100% the same result as the same process in my streamer, I would still logically expect the sound to be slightly different because it has now traversed a path through cables, different electronics, tubes... one would expect that this would introduce some coloring or alteration to the audio signal. And since I can't hear any difference at all, I am actually quite surprised by this.
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I find these discussions about wattage very interesting and enjoy following them as well. I also have questions about what works better and how different wattages affect the sound. Because I own a Decware Zen Triode (2.3 Watts), I've experienced how little wattage can make the speakers sound quite loud. I always keep the volume knob below 50% maximum. However, I still wonder, what difference will you hear (if any) when comparing two similar amplifiers? Let one amplifier deliver 2 Watts, and the other 50 Watts. Is there no difference in the sound? Nothing at all? Is the only noticeable difference the position of the volume knob?
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1 hour ago, MMurg said:
They are definitely needed for using different amps for HF and LF as many power amps do not have gain controls. All the power amps I own, including the ones I'm using with the Jubilee, do not have any gain control. I personally don't need them because I'm using identical amps for HF and LF, but not everyone will. Unfortunately, the Jubilee manual does not mention this either.
Is it correct that you need two amp to run these speakers?
There is no way to run it with just one amp?
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1 hour ago, Bacek said:
I guess great power comes with great responsibility
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Troubles with the sound of my new La Scalas
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I get the impression that we are overwhelming the OP with all our well-intentioned tips, providing information that doesn't quite align with what he states in his opening post.
"The vocals are not forward and magical as they used to be. The sound stage is great. But it almost feels a bit too clinical and lacks some warmth. And yes the low end of the bass also is bothering me"