Let me clarify: horizontal imaging is exceptional. When I heard them where I bought them, the gentleman had a center speaker and I asked if he was playing through it, and he wasn't. A wall of sound, the speakers definitely disappear. In this way, and in almost every other way, the Chorus IIs are far superior to the KG4s. But the depth isn't there. It wasn't there when I tested them, and it's not there in my room. I assumed that the imperfect setup was the reason I wasn't getting the immersion, but I've driven myself crazy moving these things all around my room. I agree with you on the above, which is why I'm hunting for the culprit. I may eventually come to the conclusion that I'm trying to shoehorn a huge speaker into a room that would rather have a pair of Heresys or Quartets and a sub. In the meantime, I'm sticking with them and am now moving on to room treatment and will update the thread if anything changes.