just4today Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I just bought a used system. I am not at all impressed. There is no midrange to speak of. I can not hear vocals, or dialogue during movies. I am using Realtek intergrated sound and have tried adjusting properties within it`s limited menu. I have it set as default for now and sound is all high and low. Those sounds are awesome but I can`t hear anything inbetween. One thing for sure, there is way too much bass. I have moved it to the floor now and have it set at 10-15% on the pod and it is still overpowering the sat`s to the point I can hardly hear anything else. The satellites are not without their problems. I can barely hear any dialogue in clips or trailers I have watched. Muffled sound is the best I can describe it. Also, if I do increase the volume, the highs go up alot but not the mids. Am I missing something here? I read these are the best available. How and with what do you tune these? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrallite Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Have previous speakers you've owned perform better in the midrange? If so, which speaker were they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just4today Posted February 12, 2010 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 Harmon Kardon HK195. I have used these for years now. Very much cheaper than the 2.1 here and sound way better. Plug them in and enjoy proper tonal balance all day with all media. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrallite Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Either there's something wrong with the 2.1s you bought, or they just aren't the speakers for you. Because those HK195s...well never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just4today Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 I bought the HK`s at the flea market for like $5. I`m just saying at least I could hear dialogue with them. I should not even be considering putting them back in use at this point. And that is the point exactly. Why is the 2.1 unable to do dialogue? I said earlier the speakers sound muffled. I listened again this morning and that is a true best description. Thanks for all insight and experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Clean Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 It might just be that particular set of PM 2.1's, I have onwed a few sets of them and never had a problem with Tone Response, the frequency range on them is very wide and the built in crossovers do a great jobat sending the best frequencys to the correct drivers at the correct levels. now wit that being said, for the $150 brand new price tag for a set of self powered speakers, I don't think you will beat their abilites in that price range anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just4today Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 If I remove a satellite speaker grill all I hear is the tweeter. I have turned up the volume, cover the tweeter with my hand and can not hear any sound from the midrange driver, I lightly touch this driver and can not feel any vibration. I have opened up the speaker and test mid driver with multimeter, seems to be receiving signal as it showed a couple volts AC. It is just not producing any sound, at least not enough to be noticeable. If someone could please remove their grill, cover tweeter and see if the mid is in fact audible. Thank You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Clean Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 lol, yes, very much so, in fact the woofers get a decent amount of movement in them before distortion. It is strange though that it is happenening to both speakers. One i can easily understand, but both means you probably have a circuitry issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrallite Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Open up the satellites and see if the woofers cabling (usually a red wire) is connected to the crossover circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just4today Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 Well, I opened up both speakers. Everything is connected, I do not see any damage. I did notice a cap and coil in there for crossover. This makes me wander how they would sound on a Home receiver, for testing purposes only. This could be bad drivers? If it is within the amp, then must be in the crossover network? Wow, this is getting deep. I thought I got a great deal on these and now I see why. I really want to fix this midrange issue now more than ever. So this system can become the awesome deal it was supposed to be. kind of like - who is laughing now. Thanks everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just4today Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 Immediately after my last post I connected these to a Receiver. Nothing! The mid drivers do not work. Is this the actual speaker or the cap? I`ve replaced caps in other things before, but they were leaking and obviously bad. I`m going to break down the speakers again and keep searching for issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Clean Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hook the driver itself up directly and see if it plays. (unhook it from the circuitry first, lol) but go ahead and touch the speaker wires directly to the terminals on the speaker drivers and see what happens, i they don't play then you know they are bad. in which case a very easy fix by replaceing the drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just4today Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 The end. It is the drivers. How did the previous owner manage to burn up both? Regardless, I now know what the problem is and will begin looking for replacements. I have lots of options here. I could replace satellites, klipsch mid drivers, or find suitable aftermarket replacements. Originally I said lacks midrange - I guess so. The moment that I had a known good driver connected, WOW! I cant wait to hear this system for all it`s worth. Thanks everyone for helping me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Clean Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 no problem at all man, that is what we are here for. If you are looking just for replacement drivers then let me know, I sell them for $17 Each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrallite Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I hope you didn't pay much for those promedias, without working satellites I'm not sure if that sub is worth more than $25-30 by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Clean Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 if the sub wokrs perfectly and is in good shape then i would have no problem paying $50 for one myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just4today Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 Sure has been an interesting day for my computer speakers. I originally just wanted to upgrade. I spent $30 on the first set which was complete. However, as we know will need new middrivers. I`m looking around for some deal on ebay this afternoon and found a much better package. It cost me $25 and 45 minute drive, but I have it all here now. I just went and picked up yet another complete set. It really seems like I was supposed to have this system. Ever have those kind of moments? Anyway, the problem with this particular system is the din cable. One of the pins broke off into the connector on the amp. So, I switched satellites and control pod. I simply am amazed as to how good all this sounds. And I have a complete system in a box, needs mids and din cable repaired. I can`t wait to get back to listening to my new speakers. Klipsch 2.1 for the win. The whole system is so rich, clear, and yet powerful with it`s strong bottom end. I`m sure glad I stuck with it. Someday of course I hope to piece together a decent setup for a home theater. For now at least I will be happy with all media on my PC and know the quality to expect from Klipsch. Well worth the money and time spent. Alot to say here tonight, thanks for everything guys and I will stay in touch about the replacement mids and din cable. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Clean Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Excellent, I can help you with both issues whenever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrallite Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 You could have returned the messed up 2.1s you know. And I'm surprised you didn't notice the mids weren't playing right away. A speaker sounds really weird witha hole between 120hz and 2,200hz.The entire fundamental frequencies of the human voice lie in that range (100 - 900hz) and a good chunk of the harmonics (900 - 8,000hz). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just4today Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 I did know something was wrong that is why I posted here in the first place. I did not realize intially what the problem was, but I did eventually discover it. Thanks Astrallite, I guess we all learned if mid is lacking, then look at the captain obvious. Do the mids even work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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