kiddo Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I was planning on a pair of RCR-5s in my vaulted ceiling as I really have no place for regular rear speakers in my large living room. But if they do not have the 'normal' Tractrix horn configuration--can they really match my fronts (RB-35s/RC-35)?? All the wall speakers I have heard cannot begin to compare to normally enclosed speakers--I am disappointed to have to use in-walls in the first place--and at a cost that is greater then my fronts??!! Why the larger price for a lesser product without the enclosure? Options?? I think the retangular version wall speaker by Klipsch has the tractrix horn...???? Help!!! My first stab at HT will be with: Denon AVR 1804 6x90 RB-35s RC-35 Sub (RW-12 or SVS 25-31) RCR-5s (maybe, not sure help now!!) Advice anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 ---------------- On 9/30/2003 9:09:28 AM kiddo wrote: All the wall speakers I have heard cannot begin to compare to normally enclosed speakers--I am disappointed to have to use in-walls in the first place--and at a cost that is greater then my fronts??!! Why the larger price for a lesser product without the enclosure? ---------------- There seems to be quite a few people asking about in-walls and in-ceiling speakers... as I recently replied to a couple of similar questions. I would have to agree with you about built in speakers generally not sounding as good as regular speaker cabinets... but I wasn't aware of the premium they cost. For home theatre, the three main channels produce the bulk of the sound and spending the most money there will give you the greatest paybacks. Freestanding units benefit from good cabinet construction which will be pretty resonant free, and be of exacting interior volume (essential to design for bass reproduction). It will also provide you with some flexibility for placement to avoid any serious in-room cancellations and control primary reflections. Because of placement and orientation, overhead speakers won't be able to create much of a soundstage (rear channel imaging). They probably use dome tweeters for the ceiling units as they will give you wider dispersion versus the more direct nature horns for wall units. Ceiling placement for the rears adds the additional shortcoming of sound effects traveling from the front channels UP to the rears. Given this, I also understand the decorating advantages to making the speakers disappear. If you must go with built in units for your rear HT, I would suggest getting matching (to your main speakers) in-wall units if possible. Ideally I'd go for non-built-ins... but it's easier said than done. Good luck... Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddo Posted September 30, 2003 Author Share Posted September 30, 2003 Good points. I guess price is relative but a pair at the local store is around $750. (the RB35 pair go for $600). It is too bad I caught the HT bug AFTER I designed/built this house. The room is just so big. If I went with another pair of RB35s in the back they would be 15' to the rear of the couch with the fronts 10'. Both front and back would have to be 7-8 feet high.....ahhh I actually prefer their sound with music to that of the RF35s as long as they are with a sub. Although these little units can rock with a sub, I think that 25' is too far apart for optimal sound. I think perhaps I need to go back to the drawing board.... The other issue with the ceiling speakers is that they will fire at an angle (vaulted) ceiling.....ahhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avman Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 the rcr-5's are klipsch's best round speaker, and you can pivot the tweeter toward your listening area. set the rears to 'small' in your digital receiver, and they should do a good job. otoh, bookshelf speakers,even at a distance should sound good as you can set your receiver for rear distance and volume level. you SHOULD be able to negotiate a lower price. avman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddo Posted October 6, 2003 Author Share Posted October 6, 2003 I bought RCR-5s off Orange--they sound great! Really fill the room with clean sound--big improvement over my old 3-way floorstanders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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