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Hello all,

Last week I discovered my 4.1s weren't working (no sound, LED not

lighting up). After scouring the forums and calling Klipcsh a few

times, I found that the 3 main causes are:

1) Bad Fuse

2) R26 dead

3) R12 dead

So, I did the following:

1) Although the fuse was still in tact, I replaced it anyhow. I plug in

the sub, and I can hear the high-pitched "power" sound, the multimeter

shows the fuse is working, and the resistors are hot. Ok it is not the

fuse.

2) After going to several electronic stores that did not carry 56K 1

watt resistors, I ordered some off Ebay. Per the advice of this board,

today I replaced the R26 with the 56K 1 watt resistor, even though the

old one read ~50-51K. Still nothing. Ok it is not R26

3) I have not replaced R12, but I am getting a reading of around 625

(resistor still on the board), so I presume R12 is in good working

condition. Is this safe to assume?

After talking to Klipsch support, they wondered if the cable running

from the control pod to the sub was broken. Well I tested each pin and

every pin works. There is no power coming from the sub.

The only thing I couldn't really test today was whatever is under that

big metal encasing along the bottom of the sub (it connects to the

satellites and the control pod). Does anyone have any suggestions on

what to test next?

Craftsmen, you seem pretty on top of things here, do you have any idea what to try next?

Thanks!

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Hi Mickstafa,

I'm sorry to hear about your issue. I too have a very similar issue with my 4.1s - what you are describing is almost exactly what I have (except that I replaced R12). You have to remember that I replaced the components before anything happened.

On my unit, the +/- voltage coming out of the board has issues, if I connect the white ribbon cables (one of them is input and the other is output) the power coming into the regulators goes close to zero - which tells me that there is short somewhere. I replaced the regulators and the same problem exist. Unfortunately, I don't have enough time right now to address the issue.

What I ended up doing was finding a used PM5.1 sub on Ebay and connecting my sats to it. Works fine.

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Almost any 5.1 amp will do - it will depend on the feature set you want. If you want to go cheap, I would recommend that you check out the local pawn shop as 5.1 amps (or receivers) have been around for years. As for the sub, the same advice goes.

Think of it as shopping for a cheap home theatre rather than computer speakers.

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Mickstafa, the power supply, wich fails to output voltages when any kind of load appears, mostly means these reasons:

-The power supply's primary side has a defected puffer capacitor, wich leads to primary voltage drop down rapidly to a level that the PWM controller of the PSU fails to working.

-The primary switching transistor(s) has problem, one of the half bridge is not functional correctly

-One working resistor of the primary swithces died or changed value due to wear.

-The feedback of the psu is broken up, or incomplete

-Secunder electrolythic capacitor(s) failing

-Secunder rectifier(s) failing

-High frequency decoupling capacitor is broken

If You have knowledge to measure them, try the high current active devices first and their immediate vicinity and go for caps after them.

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