cbr600 Posted November 21, 2001 Share Posted November 21, 2001 Has anyone ever done any A/B comparison with those two? I've been testing MSB DAC for over a week. It does improve the sound but I am wondering tube CD player such as Tjoeb 4000 may be better? I will have chance to listen to Antique Sound Lab Tube integrated AMP MG-SI 15DTS with my RF-7 this weekend. Has anyone tried tube amp with RF7? Thanks ------------------ Klipsch RF7 Klipsch RC7 Klipsch RS7 Denon 3802 Acurus RL11 Acurus A200x3 MSB Link III DAC AQ Slate Spr cables This message has been edited by cbr600 on 11-21-2001 at 12:56 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted November 21, 2001 Share Posted November 21, 2001 unfortunately no, but I would love to hear your impressions ... ------------------ Cornwalls & Klipsch subs; leather couch & feet up; lights out & tubes glowing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600 Posted November 22, 2001 Author Share Posted November 22, 2001 First of all, I never owned or listened to any tube amp before. So the following comment is just my personal opinion. Equipment: Klipsch RF7, 102dB MSB Link III DAC, Basic ASL AMP MG-SI 15DTS, 5WPC triode mode AQ Slate,AR Toslink and MIT interconnect cables I first surprise is the hiss and hum I've been experienced with my current setup (Denon, Acurus)is gone. I am aware of the ground loop issue. I tried to get rid of it one time with ONLY Acurus Rll preamp, A200 amp, a cd player with toslink cable. Hiss and hum was reduced but still there so I decided to live with it. OK, how does it sound? Acurus preamp + Acurus AMP = very clean and detail sound. Unfortunately sounds too cold and bright for my taste. Denon + Acucus AMP = great for movie. Does sounds warmer than Acurus preamp I have but lack of clarity and detail compared to Acurus preamp setup. ASL Tube AMP = I don't know all of those words people use on audioreview.com. All I know is it does sound good. Better than previous two setup. It is definitely warmer than Acurus preamp + amp and has the clarity and detail I appreciate. I thought the bass must be an issue for this little 5W amp. To my second surprise, the bass is actually good. Of course, this is not shake your house kind of bass. For that, I would rather use sub. It does produce less bass compared to acurus 200W AMP. For anyone who likes a lot of bass, this amp probably won't do it. As much as I like RF7 with its clarity and right on your face kind of sound. I always wonder if just if I can make it sounds warmer. Do I finally find the sound I am looking for? I don't know. There is always room for improvement. However, for a 5W integrated tube AMP under $700, I am sure impressed. ------------------ Klipsch RF7 Klipsch RC7 Klipsch RS7 Denon 3802 Acurus RL11 Acurus A200x3 MSB Link III DAC AQ Slate Spr cables This message has been edited by cbr600 on 11-22-2001 at 01:29 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Taylor Posted November 25, 2001 Share Posted November 25, 2001 I have a AH! Njoe Tjoeb 4000, Klipsch Heresy II,Mcintosh MC-225 and a foreplay pre-amp . They all sound great together. The Ah! njoe Tjoeb 4000 has a very clean open musical sound to itself and is a bargain for the under $600. price, sounds like a CDP costing a lot more. I love mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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