Looking at the new Yamaha's. Need a little help.

[peshewah]

As you can see in my signature I have (soon to be) a 5.1 system. I am looking at these two recievers. RX-V463 and RX-V663. http://www.yamaha.com/yec/compare/Detail.html?compitem1=&compitem2=567576&compitem3=567571&CTID=5000300&VNM=LIVE&comp_items=567571&comp_items=567576&B_compare.x=24&B_compare.y=7. I hope the link works. I don't have a fancy flat screen, just an old school TV. The salesman is saying the one that cost more money would be a better deal and sound better, but it has less power. I'm into the sound. My old reciever is giving me trouble. Can you all help me out?

[Bill H.]

For the money you can't go wrong with the RX-V463. Received high ratings. Good Luck and trust your Ears which sounds best.

[htxpert]

The Yamaha RX-V663 is the best bang for your buck mid-fi receiver. The RX-V
663 has many advantages over the 463 and is the more powerful receiver.

The measured advertised WPC
power rating difference is very deceiving because the two receivers were
measured in a different manner. The important specification is the measured
distortion level and dampening factor at 20-20k. Don’t get yourself caught
up in the WPC marketing game; you would need to double the amount of power
output for a net 3dB gain.

Look at the comparison below, besides the 663 being a 7.1 channel receiver I
have highlighted the differences in red. The extra $200 buys you much more when
you compare the two side by side. Leaving all the rest of the feature on the
663 out the fact that it has video up conversion, pure direct, decodes DTS
Master and Dolby True HD internally is worth the extra $200 alone.

RX-V663

RX-V463

PRICE

MSRP

$549.95

$349.95

TECHNOLOGIES

YPAO Automatic System Calibration	•	•
6 Ch Ext Input		•
CINEMA DSP Digital	•	•
SILENT CINEMA and Virtual CINEMA DSP	•	•
Dolby Pro Logic II		•
HDMI	•	•
XM - XM Ready	•	•
Neural Surround	•	•
Made for iPod	•	•
XM HD Surround Sound	•	•
Compressed Music Enhancer	•	•
SCENE – A NEW LEVEL OF OPERATING EASE	•	•
DTS Digital Surround (New)		•
Sirius-Ready	•	•
Bluetooth	•	•
DTS NEO: 6 (New)	•
Dolby Digital Plus	•
Dolby Digital EX	•
DTS HD Master Audio	•
Dolby TRUE HD	•
Digital ToP-ART	•
8 Ch Ext Input	•

SPECIFICATIONS

RMS Output Power (20Hz - 20kHz)	95W x 7
RMS Output Power (1kHz)		105W x 5
Total Power (20Hz - 20kHz)	665W	525W (1kHz)
Dolby TrueHD	•
Dolby Digital EX/ Dolby Pro Logic IIx	• (Plus)	(Dolby Digital / Dolby Pro Logic II)
DTS-HD Master Audio	•
DTS-ES Discrete 6.1	•	(DTS Digital Surround)
DTS 96/24 / DTS Neo:6	•
Pure Direct	•
iPod Compatibility	• (With Optional YDS-10)	• (With Optional YDS-10)
Bluetooth Compatibility	• (With Optional YBA-10)	• (With Optional YBA-10)
Compressed Music Enhancer	•	•
Neural Surround	•	•
XM HD Surround	•	•
Sirius Satellite Radio Ready	•	•
XM Satellite Radio Ready	•	•
HDMI (In/Out)	(2 / 1) Ver. 1.3	(2 / 1)
Component Video (In/Out)	(3 / 1)	(3 / 1)
A/V Inputs (S-Video)	5 (All S-Video)	4
Digital Inputs/Outputs [O: Optical, C: Coaxial]	(O: 3, C: 2)	(O: 2, C: 1)
Front A/V with Digital Input	• (S-Video / Optical)	• (A/V Only)
Front Mini Input for Portables		•
D/A Conversion	192 kHz / 24 bit	192 kHz / 24 bit
Surround Programs	17	8
Time Base Corrector	•
HDMI Up Conversion	•
Component Video Up Conversion	•
S-Video Up Conversion	•
Dialogue Lift	•
YPAO (w/Optimizer Microphone)	•	•
On-Screen Display	•	•
Assignable Power Amp	•
Zone Speaker Terminals	•
Zone 2 Output	• (Audio Only)
Zone Power Switching	• Main/ Zone2 (Front Panel)
+12V Trigger Output	•
IR Ports	•
Speaker A, B or A + B	•	(A,
Selectable Subwoofer Crossover	•	•
Multi-Channel Decoder Inputs	8-Channel	6-Channel
Pre-Out All Channels	•
Learning Remote Capability	Preset	Preset
Product Dimensions (W x H x D)	17-1/8" x 6-3/4" x 15-1/2"	17-1/8" x 5-5/16" x 13-7/8"
Product Weight (lbs.)	26.2	18.7
Shipping Dimensions (W X H X D)	21-13/16" x 10-5/8" x 19-13/16"	20-3/4" x 10-7/16" x 19-13/16"
Shipping Weight (LBS)	32	22

[shinerman]

Bought my wife the RX-V663 for her room............fantastic little receiver

[peshewah]

First of all I want to Thank you for all the help. Will the Yamaha sound pretty good with my 62's.

[oldbuckster]

Check out www.vanns.com .... Yamaha V6663... $549.95 same one at Vann's...... $499.95, Free Shipping, No sales tax .... quick turnaround, what they promise, when they promise it ..................... Check them out, doesn't hurt to look ..... $50.00 is $50.00 more for music ...... EH !!!!!

[htxpert]

First of all I want to thank you for all the help. Will the Yamaha
sound pretty good with my 62's.

Not pretty good > Very good. I am getting ready to pull one and set it up
with 2- RF-83, 1-RC-64, 2-RC-64 and 2 RB-51 (Ex) in my showroom.

How much you wanna bet the RX-V663 will make these speakers sing? I
currently have the Yamaha RX-V3800 driving the system but want some play time
with the 663.

[peshewah]

Cool beans. It all sounds real good. Next Friday when I get paid I'm going to the big city (Springfield Mo) and pick one up. I would love to order one from Vann's and pocket that $50. But I have this picture in my mind of Fed-Ex or UPS drop kicking my reciever to my door step as it rains on it all day while I'm at work. Those people are rougher than a cob. Anyway, if anyone gets anymore info on the 663 good or bad please post it. Thanks guys.

[oldbuckster]

I have this picture in my mind of Fed-Ex or UPS drop kicking my reciever to my door step

That's not what will happen with Vanns ................. Funny, all electronics are delivered to the stores the same way, IN A TRUCK !!!!!!

[iiwiiwhat]

I'm looking at the 663, too, with rf 82's and a yet-to-determined center to begin. Please post how it all turns out.