twhite

I was curious about what would happen, yesterday I took the ciruit out of the reference 7 center and stuck it in the RF3ii. In the end I found the sound less appealing. The base was much deeper and just as sharp, nice improvement. But, the Midrange was lower pitched, like having a slightly deeper voice. And the treble was distant. It's like the mid-highs and highs needed to be louder, in order to compensate for the increase base. I was pleased that the high's were much calmer, and the vocals seem smoother. But overall it was lacking... Everything is back to normal.. Troy

I just did a heritage search in atlanta. The near dealer for this line is in Macon, GA. Over 100 miles away from my home (on the north side of Atlanta). Very interesting???? A city this large with no Heritage dealers. Several RF's although.... Troy

I am very new to this site, stereo equipment and even computer postings,,, so there is nothing I can give to help this forum. I am here to learn. To allow others to help me. To build a system from nothing. In the short time many people have been absolutely wonderful. I have seen friends helping friends. Adults helping children. And strangers (like me) spoken to with respect. When words are written for the purpose of harm, I leave the forum. If it continues, any one worth having will slowly fade away. Disagree like men. With RESPECT and REFLECTION. Troy

Interesting? I found this looking for something else. http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:BGfeu-647WQJ:www.oldhifi.com/gearpage.html+hh+scott+222c&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 It reads: "KLIPSCHORN. This is the world's oldest known Klipschorn. Serial number 14. It was built in July of 1947. The Klipsch museum only has #18 and #20. The original serial number tag is in almost perfect condition. It is signed by Paul Klipsch himself. There is another tag inside that describes the woofer specs. This is probably in Paul Klipsch' own hand as well. #14 was also inspected on 22nd September 1949 and initialed by Lloyd S. McClellan--Klipch' first employee. Currently fitted with an early 50's Jensen P15LL--probably the best woofer ever made for corner horns. This is the same one that comes in the Jensen Imperial. According to the internal woofer tag, #14 left the factory with a Stephens Trusonic P52LX but this may have been upgraded by the factory at a later date. This speaker was always in Arkansas until recently. Anyway, the Stephens are sometimes for sale on the web if you want to put it back to original. The high frequency horn is a beautiful multiply Smith Multi Septa High Frequency horn powered by a Jensen compression driver. This horn is still used today as the JBL 2397 and Westlake. Crossover may be original and built by Paul Klipsch himself. Condition is sensational. Both drivers are working and it sounds fabulous. $1995. " Troy

Islands of peace, morality, and honor. If we own a family, we create islands. We look for a safe home to live in. We protect our children from strangers. We protect our wives from agressors. We attempt to give the best to our children whenever possible. We create islands to raise our families. And a few of the few, will remove public schools, MTV, cable/satelite, and many other "potential harmful" events/activities. As we become more numb to events that would make my grandmother sick (she's 94 and hates all of this)it only allows even more activity to create the "shock". Like a drug addict needing larger amounts to obtain the same level of high. This will not change. Society will continue down the slippery slope. So....the few of the few will create islands for their family. As these islands became more and more antisocial in nature, they will be called "radical" fanatics, usually wrapped in a false blanket of religions. My 2 year old son just crawled into my lap. I wonder in 30 years what he will be keeping outside of his childerns island? Troy

I have been mostly sitting back and quietly reading for about a month now. Here is my conclusion. Each and everyone one of you are nuts!!! Now I'm a nut to.... Over the past 2 weeks I have found 2 rf3ii's, 1 pioneer elite (for HT), one scott 222c (thanks keith, haven't seen it yet), and today another rf3ii for free (missing the grill). All for $650ish?? Granted the elite takes 30 minutes to come on (if at all), the scott will need to be gone through and the speakers are used, but who's complaining. The nut is on a roll.... Need one more rf3ii, I'm thinking a few ma and pa places may have a return sitting in a corner somewhere? We have plenty of time.... no rush. Also I need to replace that grill. With a 2 year old son, that speaker is not safe. Troy

---------------- On 1/28/2004 7:10:52 AM marksdad wrote: the best way to answer this is to go to your local audio store and audition both, i have and i can say this will make a poor ht, the timbre will not be there, which means transient sounds will jump back and forth, and sound level will change, if you enjoy seamless theatre you wont like the sf-rf combo ---------------- Thank you for the input. I was a bit concern about it also, but was hoping others have done this with success. Troy

I have an chance to purchase 2 sf1 at a good price ($60 each with warranty). How would these matchup with my rf3ii's. I know the db rating is different. sf1 in the rear and the rf3ii as the mains. The center and sub has yet to be found? By the way, if you live in atlanta turn the radio on channel 91.9 for vocal jazz/blues all night. Some great stuff coming out of the klipsch night! Troy

It appears the conclusion is to use a speaker switching device like niles, although it will need to be a 4 channel unit that allow a bi-wire switching. As for the equipment hookup we need to experiment with different options to see which method sound best for each item, (turntable, cd, tuner). One may need to go through the HT while another should go directly to the tube. Thank you for the help. Everyone.... Let me know if my conclusions are wrong or can improved on. Troy

Thanks Bob, Troy

Keith, I lost my job last summer and am currently working at a HT store here in north west atlanta to help make ends meet. I do not believe I will stay at this job for very long, maybe a few more months before I am able to move back into my career field. But while I am here I'm making every effort to put my long term stereo together. Last month I picked up a pair of rf3ii's for below cost on a trade-in. I currently see another (single one rf3ii) in the back that I may also pickup and perhaps a sub in the near future. Since the store doesn't carry the line anymore its a hit or miss opportunity. I can get any niles equipment, also SS equipment like yah or den or b&k. So the hunt is on.... In my mind I need to have a plan and the 222c fits very nicely. The SS will only be for the HT which is rare in our household. As luck would have it, I actually do have sunday off. We would like to attend church (if possible, but not manditory). I'll send you my home number on email. Call me if you wish to get together. What else did you have in mind? Troy

This may seem like a simple question although, I have not found a "suitable" answer yet. Keith from this forum has mentioned that I can purchase his spare 222c (it will need to be gone through). Soooo I'm trying to come up with a way to connect the amp to run my rf3ii's and then which over to HT for movetime running through a 5.1 amp. The HT amp may or may not have preouts. If it does then the question is should I hook up all the equipment to the HT and run the preouts to the scott,,,, but then the rf3ii's will have to amps hooked to it. Granted only one will be sending a signal. But there must be some negative feed back going on here. What if the HT amp doesn't have any preouts? Then what? Hook the dvd to the HT and everything else (TT, CD) to the scott? The speaker issue of being connected to two amps still exist, although in this options one amp will be turned off. I'm assuming a speaker switch box may be neccessary, and this ideal leaves me cold. So how do you hook up your left and right main speakers for your tube audio to a HT system without lossing quality? Troy

I saw 2 scopes at the DAV 2 days ago for $12 each. I never thought much more about them until reading this post. I have no other information about them. Although if someone is interested I'll go and buy them, probably keep one for myself and let the other one go for cost. At that price I think it may be worth a risk. Let me know if anyone is interested in the other. (if they are still there) and if they do what you wish (connectors, band width, etc.) I'll take another look tomorrow morning. Troy

Hello, Let me hear from everyone out there who have created a complete system functioning well between HT and tubes. I tend to do nothing without planning, and it is rare for me to buy something twice. So what are some of the best ways to build a system for both sides of the fence. Keith (thank you) has offered me his spare 222c (if we can get together) in which I plan to build around using my rf3ii's. This will be a slow process but I would like to hear what others have already done. Thank you, Troy

Craig, Tell me what you know about the 222c. I have seen them mentioned throughout the forum. How much will a "tune-up" run in general? What can I expect from my rf3ii's? I'm currently listening to some spanish opera and it sound ok to good. This morning I was listening to some country (female voices) and the sound was terrible. I thought the horns were bad!!! I need to smooth out the vocals and highs. Currently using a Onkyo a8170 from the 1980's. Old military days... I think the amp is a major issue here... Thanks, Troy