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Wow... I don't have the skills for this but a few of my friends do. Maybe they would be interested in such a project, financed by me. :-)
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Sorry, I meant this year's avr-330 instead of avr-320 (two years ago). Can be had for $449 at etronics.com (same price as the Onkyo you listed).
ecost.com has the older but beefier avr-325 from last year at $435.46. The price difference is small compared to this year's model, but I'm told the 325 was sold as a 4xx series in Europe which expalins the beefier weight.
The older avr-320 can be had for $389.99 at ecost.com and this year's avr-230 for $319.99 at etronics.com.
You can look up the specs and download the manuals for all these models from www.harmankardon.com
Note that the 2005 x35 models are about to come out, with new features. But on a budget you can't go wrong with the above. For plain 5.1, no thrills, no zone II, but great sound and high-current, try a NAD T742 for $399.
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A harman/kardon avr-130 is nice, I agree. If 5.1 plus stero on another romm is required, step up to the avr-320 which does that. The 6th and 7th amplifier can either be a Zone II stereo or extend the 5.1 to 7.1.
Check out ecost.com for excellent pricing on factory reconditioned units.
If you can find it, last year's h/k avr-325 should be cheap and weights in at 40 lbs. I have this driving La Scala's and I'm very happy with it.
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Too bad it's no longer on the markey. I'm told the replacement Pioneer is not as good. I'm still without a DVD-A/SACD player...
Am I missing out to the point where I should run out and buy one?
I do think DVD-V concerts are very good (e.g Diana Krall Live in Paris).
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As for me, if I had the room for a cornwall I'd probably put in a La Scala (to match my other two). They are both about the same height. The only way for me to fit a La Scale would be to angle it into the suspended ceiling a bit. Could work, but WAF is not obvious...
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That hurts! They look new!
Congratulations, lucky man!!!
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It sounds like we need to pair up and buy La Scalas on ebay and have each of the pair shipped to different places!
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I have emailed you earlier this afternoon...
Peter
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----------------On 11/1/2004 11:31:50 PM J.4knee wrote:What are they.... they are expensive!----------------
Kidding, right? You have hundreds of posts, so you know what La Scala's are, right?
Did I misunderstand our question?
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My plan is to buy a pair and drive them with a separate amp. Otherwise the 7 dB sensitivity mismatch is a nuisance to compensate for (but not impossible).
But we could split a pair!
I suppose I never go above -20 dB or so when watching a movie anyway and could always drop the center channel for really loud music.
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Well, my suggestion was just to try what he had.
I'll likely be looking for a pair of Heresy's next spring to act as my center (both of them). It would be about the same price to buy a single La Scala, but a single one is difficult to find, especially here in Quebec.
Peter
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I wrote:
Not that my LS's are still set to large, but sub is set to "LFE + L/R" so it gets low frequency content as well.I meant Note that my LS's are still set to large. So theis sound is not affected by the crossover frequency.
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The KG-3.5 might work out better as center than the RC-7, but do ley us know if you like the RC-7 as a center! I'll be looking for a center for my '73 La Scala's by then.
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I started with 80 Hz because Dr Hsu recommended that. I also tried 100 Hz but when I disconnected the main speakers I could start to hear some unwanted content at that frequency. I place the sub behind the couch, so it's not desirable to have sounds at high enough frequency that I can detect their origin.
It sounds very similar at 60 Hz than at 80 Hz, but I stayed with 80 Hz to reinforce the bass. I think that seeing the frequency response graphs posted a few days ago also confirms my choice of 80 Hz.
Not that my LS's are still set to large, but sub is set to "LFE + L/R" so it gets low frequency content as well.
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Sixteen feet apart is a little close. You may not like it. Mine are along an 18' wall and I now wish for a bigger room.
Wow, and mine are on an 11' wall!
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I started with 80 Hz because Dr Hsu recommended that. I also tried 100 Hz but when I disconnected the main speakers I could start to hear some unwanted content at that frequency. I place the sub behind the couch, so it's desirable to not have sounds at high enough frequency that I can detect that.
It sounds very similar at 60 Hz than at 80 Hz, but I stayed with 80 Hz to reinforce the bass. I think that seeing the frequency response graphs posted a few days ago also confirms my choice of 80 Hz.
Peter
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Trey posted in the thread "What's up with this" about the great job they did on the F3 and how he thought they were better than the old Reference RF-3. Go read that post. Seems the F3 is a fine speaker!
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Many thanks for posting these! Excellent!
The La Scala graph reinforces my choice of sending everything below 80Hz to the sub as well as the mains, although even 90 Hz would be okay. I'm surprised at the amount of variation on the La scala graph. Those wiggles don't really fit within +/- 3 dB. All the other speaker responses are much more flat. I think the La Scala sounds better than that graph shows.
The Forte is sweet! I never really knew about it. Kind of like the long lost relative.
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Congratulations!
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Do they need a sub?
I thought they didn't until I got one. I wouldn't go back. I didn't spend a fortune either (Hsu STF-3).
Peter
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If you are looking to save money, I'd try it first without the separate amp unless you are getting a deal on it as a bundle. If your room is small, you may find you won't need it.
My h/k avr-235 powers my La Scala's and I rarely go past -10 dB on the dial.
Peter
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On 10/29/2004 11:56:20 AM Trey Cannon wrote:With out going to deep in to it...As good as the rf3 is, just like all speakers, it has it's problems. There are SMALL peeks and valleys in the response curve. In the F3 we addressed that by changing the network a bit. The bass is better due to the size of the cabinet. The F3 is bigger. In the sprit of keeping the price down, we use the same plastic and tweeters on a few models in the new (Synergy 4) line. This means less tooling and parts, thus less cost. Myself, I am happy that we were able to keep the cost as close to what it was as we did. A lot of effort from the entire team was placed into this product.I think the B3 is one of the best bookshelves we have done. The low end from that little speaker is very good. I would love to have some feedback from someone that has taken them home!
Hi Trey!
How does the new C3 center compare to older Reference? It's not a perfect match for my La Scala's, but...
And when will this line will available in Canada? They haven't shown up on the local dealer's web site anyway...
Thanks!
Peter
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Audio Flynn pointed out the possible source of his shrill mids problems if he is using a DVD player to playback standard CD's. Ever DVD player I have ever heard makes them sound shrieky and nasty.
Not to get into a regilion war or anything, but why would a DVD sound different? Send the bits over the digital link and have the receiver's DAC do the job. Why would the bits output be any different than those from a CD player?
Wondering...
What are these La Scalas?
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Sorry. I feel stupid now. I should have known better...