ya i see what you mean...and hes asking a premium dollar for it too..or close to it.......Theres an aquantince of mine i bought 3 pairs of klfs from him, he lives in san jose .... he has six pairs of heresys..hes willing to sell me a pair cheap because im a return customer. with the info i got here i can go threw his inventory and know what im looking for..... one thing i noted in the specs on these heresys...they dont get down real low in bass...somewhere in the 50;s...but have a 116db SPL accoustic output,,, im very interested in matching a pair up with a good sub that digs down low and hard...I think it will be an awesome set up to have..ive been missing out man i know it...you guys that have owned these vintage speakers have been enjoying some good music...