mikieboyblue

Haha, so, we have two solutions, one cheap and one expensive due to low demand. There is one problem with all of this. I don't really have the tools to cut a 15in MDF disc. Making the port hole isn't an issue because that's just a hole saw. Suggestions on tools? I don't want it look like an idiot did it....

Ok, so if I am reading all of this correctly (and more understanding it), the only true difference between ports and PRs is the cost factor with ports being far far cheaper (as a piece of MDF is cheap as is the port tube you linked to). If this is the case, still, why ever use a PR? With respect to the Chorus IIs, there must be one that simply works better? If not, Klipsch could have pocketed a few hundred more in profit by using a port and selling at the same price.

You know. My biggest problem is that I have no idea where to start. When I think about separates I wounder what I would need to buy. For example, how do you handle video if you wanted to? Certainly you can have a lot of video inputs and something needs to tie them together. Then, how do you handle optical? DTS processing? As my sig says, I really am speaker dumb and lack the appropriate amount of research time...sadly....(blame working for the man).

That particular one is missing optical in. But thanks for the suggestion. I take it you took a mostly separate route? It does not have any internal DAC's, so there is not need for it to have optical in. The receiver would rely on the decoders that are built into your CD/DVD player. Except my problem is, I prefer to stream DTS from my PC directly to the receiver knowing the DACs on the receiver should be better. Not to mention you eliminate the 60hz chances with optical.

So then why use a PR? And I have no clue where to find any specs.

That particular one is missing optical in. But thanks for the suggestion. I take it you took a mostly separate route?

I was looking between 4-6 or so hundred. As far as how many channels. That's a good question. I seem to want to lean toward more so I have room to grow without new hardware. I have heard Outlaw is pretty good at a reasonable price. Thanks for that site. I will have to keep a watch on it. I think I am going to get my speakers back to "normal" and see how things are...I wont "trot too hot." (in the words of Oldbuck...)

Hahaha....thanks guys! Some of you have convinced me to forgo my receiver upgrade so I'll pick up the prs. Although cutting ports would be cheaper, it will be nice to see...err...hear how these things are when fully together.

Yeah, my Pioneer doesn't sound bad...of course maybe I haven't heard good. I don't like the white noise in the background when close to the speakers as I spend most of my time no more than 2-4 feet away.

Thanks for that thread. I will have to read through all of it. My price range is a few hundred, no more than 6 or 7. I know...not enough....but hopefully good enough....

Which brand(s) do you like? That site seems to have decent prices but there are so many to choose from. I just have no clue who stands out the most. Such a tough call. And I do know a lot of it is up to the person's ears but I don't have enough discretionary cash to buy - sell - buy.

Hello everyone, Sorry I should have given a bit more information... I currently own the speakers (Chorus IIs) and they are getting a set of new crossovers from Bob and a few other tweaks. I have a Pioneer VSX-D514 (or something like that) receiver and a Sony 10 inch 150 watt sub. I listen to FM on occasion but MOST of the time I have a audio feed from my PC (optical DTS) for music and movies. Sometimes I route a TV though my receiver. Give that, it sounds like a receiver is probably best. I am looking at the Denon 2307cl.

Hello Everyone, What is your take on a 2 channel setup concerning the use of a receiver or a processor/amp? The more information/opinions the better. Mike

Hello Everyone, I currently have a 150 watt 10in Sony sub. It is OK but I got used to my Pioneer 800 watt sub in my car and need something with more POWER for home. I am running a 2 channel setup (a pair of Chorus IIs) and an entry level Pioneer receiver (which will be replaced by the Denon 2307cl soon -- unless someone thinks a separates system would be cheaper for 2 channel and if so recommendations are welcome). So, given that, do we have some recommendations for subs? I want at least a 12 and all brands are welcome. Mike

LOL, yes. (I sense some chastising coming...) ... I have been forcing my crappy Sony 10in 150 watt sub to make up for it.

I may take a stab at it. The funny thing is, I've been using them for years without the passives.

From the few I looked at I did not like their sensitivity. It was rather low in my opinion.

Saddly that is probably far far over my head haha...I know... I'm pathetic. I can get them. Klipsch doesn't have the KD-16s but they have a upgrated replacement model. The cost is 126 each (a bit steep in my opinion) seeing as when I called before (a few years ago) I was told the KD-16s, when in stock again would be about 55 each.

Ok then.... haha... they appear in a few recommended home theater builds...so I was just curious.

How does Klipsch stand up against RBH?

Unfortunately the name doesn't ring a bell but yes, the money is worth it (or at least I hope so because I still have plenty to pay back)!

Sounds like he lives in Hudson Harbor. That is a nice place to live if you work at IBM because you can walk to work every day and save big bucks on gas. No, I wasn't in a frat while at Clarkson. Kept myself too busy with other works and audio type hobbies.

Thanks Bruce.

Hi Bruce, I agree, the Chorus IIs do rock. I love them and they were free. I plan on picking up the blown diaphragm as soon as I have time to confirm that it is indeed the problem. With respect to the passive subs, it isn't a matter of replacing a broken one, it is a matter of replacing missing ones. Part of being free meant I took them as is. Well that mean they came with stickers stuck all over the outside, a missing Klipsch badge, and missing both passive subs. I sanded by hand and stained outside to clean them up, purchased a couple Klispch badges but there were no passive subs (KD-16) in stock. When I called last week to check on the availability of the diaphragms, I was told there are newer passive subs available for the Chorus IIs. That said, the price is double what it was when I called a few years ago checking on the KD-16s (now 125 a piece). With respect to the crossovers, where can said caps be purchased? I am pretty good with a soldering iron but just don't know where to pick up the parts. Lastly, I see you live in one of the 14 other town of LaFayette's around the country (I grew up in LaFayette, NY). Thanks! Mike

Haha! Those are about the only two places to work in Poughkeepsie eh? Yes, I work at IBM. I do believe I know where the Apple Valley Shipping Plaza is/was. No clue about Klondike or Eberhard Builders. But yes sir, the IBM plat is still there and I have been to the past two county fairs (the 4H milkshakes are what everyone raves about -- I think they are ok). The Taconic State Parkway, is nuts if you so from Poughkeepsie south with all the traffic and crazy speeding people. But if you go north to the park and up to Hudson and toward Albany it is very nice! So it seems like the reference series is a decent speaker but aimed more toward a home theater (literally a which screen and all). I a cannot remember exactly but when I was part of my university's radio station (from where I acquired my Chorus IIs), I think we purchased some RB-75 bookshelf speakers in black. If so, they are the nicest bookshelf speaker I have heart. I absolutely LOVE the Chorus IIs. I am just worried I wont be able to find parts for them as I need the passive subs and a diaphragm and have not clue what to do if the crossovers go. I need to find a retailer who stocks Klipsch in the Poughkeepsie area so I can listen to other types without dropping a ton of money. I still really want their 12 in sub with 1000w amp (drool). What's the deal with the current line of "Heritage" speakers? What differentiates them from the others and do they stack up to the true "Heritage" speakers? Thanks for the info guys (and gals if any). Mike