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  1. I've always had excellent results toeing mine in from the corners. The room will determine which sounds best, don't be dogmatic about toe in issues, enjoy what sounds best in your situation.

    Yes the room will determine what sounds best. Mine are on a long wall about 12' to 15' apart and toed in gives the best results for me.

    It sounds like the specific room size, type and furniture dictates the toe in/no toe in preference, and that makes sense. I myself have an 18' x 18' room, with the right Forte placed about 1.5' from the side and back wall and the left Forte 1.5' from the back wall and open on the side, since that's where the dining area starts. I could definitely tell the difference in bass and also a reduction in harseness in the mid/treble when I pointed them straight ahead. One of my Klipsch fan(atic) friends agrees with me on the difference in sound, another not so much. FYI, the review that started this is available at http://www.soundstage.com/greg01.htm... it's a few years old, but I found it enlightening. Wish I'd have kept all my old copies of Stereo Review... if I remember right, I think Julian Hirsch loved the Fortes.

    Also, since we're discussing Forte I and II upgrades, I also use an Academy for a center channel... has anyone had experience using any of these diaphragm switches and/or network conversions on an Academy? It matches so well with the Fortes right now, I don't want to screw it up.

    BTW, FYI, IMHO (I'm going for a record) the addition of the Academy was probably the best thing I did for my soundstage for movies, SACD's, and BD's... the front three are almost transparent, really noticeable when sweet sounding autos drive across the room at 12,000 RPM! Check out

    for a great stereo version of what I'm talking about and TURN IT UP!!! It's almost orgasmic...
  2. Thanks Bill, much appreciated! Since you have a pair (of Fortes), one other question: Do you toe yours in, aiming at a sweet spot, or just aim them straight forward (since they're not corner dependent). I read a review not long ago that suggested to just aim them straight, and I honestly think they sound better that way

  3. Tell me what amplification you are using for your Forte'IIs.

    I'm particularly interested in the vintage stuff.

    With my Forte I's, I'm using an Onkyo TX-SR805 for A/V and surround SACD's, DVD-A's, and BD's (through an Oppo BDP-80) and it sounds great, very defined... much better than the Sony it replaced.

    For stereo, I'm currently feeding the Pre-out of the Onkyo to a pair of Eico HF-50's and that sounds fantastic... really changed the way the Fortes sound, much warmer and takes away any harseness. Hope to have my HF-85 rebuilt in a couple weeks so then I'll be tube all the way on the 2 channel end... can't wait!.

  4. Gents (and any ladies as well),

    Need your educated opinions. I currently have a pair of Fortes that I am considering upgrading using some Crites components. I would like to switch out the diaphragms for midrange and tweeter with the units Crites offers, especially the titanium tweeter. If I do so, do you think it would make sense to upgrade the crossover at the same time? Are the new diaphragms designed with the Crites Xover in mind (or vice versa)?

    I've also given thought to upgrading speakers from the Forte to the Forte II before I make said upgrade.. For those of you who have had (or listened to) both speakers, do you think that would be worth it?

    By the time I buy some II's and sell my Fortes, it would probably cost me roughly $200. The diaphragm upgrade is about $140 and the Xovers about $250. Money isn't that much of a consideration, but I would like to know everyone's opinion of whether of not it's worth it.

    Thanks for your thoughts oh fellow Klipsch fans and fanatics,

  5. 995604069209_0_ALB.jpgOne of the members of this forum has probably the best idea I've ever seen for record storage... it's lind of like a file cabinet for records, which allows for storage like the unit you've located, but keeps the wife happy because all the albums are out of sight.


    Nice-looking LP storage unit! Where could I buy one, or is it homebuilt?

    Islander,

    This particular unit is homebuilt, but if you're seriously interested, we could arrange for more discussion. This is a solidly built unit that is a very nice piece of furniture and I'm actually surprised that none of the hi-end audio rack folks haven't come out with something like it. "BluesBoy," a semi-frequent poster on this forum, is the craftsman that built it, and he's made a lot of custom equipment and media storage furniture in the past, along some killer speakers. He recently moved back here to Eastern Washington, so we're not too far away from your location... just a hop, skip, and long ferry ride! It will probably be a few months before the furniture and rest of the family gets completely relocated from NC though...

    Let us know if you're seriously interested,

  6. 995604069209_0_ALB.jpgOne of the members of this forum has probably the best idea I've ever seen for record storage... it's lind of like a file cabinet for records, which allows for storage like the unit you've located, but keeps the wife happy because all the albums are out of sight. Here's a picture, hope he doesn't kill me:

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    Pretty damn good looking record storage if you ask me. How much would you be willing to pay for one of these?

  7. It's only a fair deal if you feel that way, no one else can make that call!!! It's upi to you!!!

    Jay

    I agree with the canyonman, but it would be good to have an opportunity to A/B them. Are you considering using the Chorus/Quartet for a surround system? Add an Academy and maybe a sub and that would be pretty frackin' good IMHO.

    I've never had any exposure to the RF series, but own and currently use Fortes, KG1's, and an Academy in the house; KG.5's in the bedroom, KG1's in the office, Heresys (that I've had since '76) in the garage; KSB1.1's on the deck; used to own Cornwalls; and currently have a pair of mid '80's KHorns that I'm holding on to to test/compare in a friend's man cave in a house he's building... obviously I love the heritage Klipschs. I've heard good things about the RF's as well, with exception of no bass... apparently having a subwoofer is a must. While it's nice with the heritage speakers (for shaking the floor at least), it's not an imperative.

    Have fun with your selection my friend, but try to listen to both side by side with the same amp and source if possible. Also, why does the guy want to trade? Seems a bit unfair to him/her if you ask me...

  8. Does tje 880 or other logitech remotes handle the unique remotes that come with dish or direct tv systems?

    I found the 880 couldn't deal with the required lags during boot up of the items before a command was sent:

    Watch Netflix (with one button); in order to do this I needed:

    Oppo 93 On (wait to boot, my longest boot up time)

    Onkyo pre/pro ON (wait for it to boot)

    Vizio TV ON, wait to boot then switch to HDMI 3 as this is where I had direct video from Oppo 93 HDMI 2 out

    Onkyo pre/pro switch to Blue Ray input

    Oppo select "Home", cursor down 1, select

    Now control Netflix menu for movie selection and control pre/pro volume

    .

    I guess I'm lucky, 'cause I don't have to wait for my equipment to "boot" after I turn it on in order for the command sent by the 880 to be recognized... e.g., to watch a DVD, I have to turn on my Samsung 61S750 and set it to HDMI, turn on my Onkyo TX-SR805 and set it to HDMI 1, and turn on my Oppo BDP80... with the disc (BD or SACD) inserted, it pretty much figures out what's in there and the 880 is set to send the proper commands after that (play, pause,etc.). I will agree, my Oppo takes the longest time to come to life, but overall, the 880 is pretty much done with it's macro in 20 seconds or less after I press the "watch BluRay" function and everything works fine.

    I have never tried using the Oppo to play Netflix though and I can see where that might be a problem going straight to it because of the Oppo latency. I have a dedicated computer for watching Netflix, YouTube, listening to Rhapsody and all other things digital, and for that I have a really BIG remote, a wireless keyboard with a roller ball embedded... it works great! For evertything else though, I've never had to wait for the individual pieces of equipment to do anything but turn on and they always go to the setting I've specified in the macro. Thanks to a divorce, I've used one of my 880's through three different configurations of HDTV, Receiver, and BD/DVD player and it's always worked without a hitch. I can't speak for Direct or Dish as I go with Charter due to their superior internet speed.

    Good luck on the programming, that can be a beatch... you need to find a 12 year old, they'll figure it out in a heartbeat (while texting, listening to tunes, and surfing on their iPhone). Just thank goodness we're not in Japan right now...

  9. O.E., tell me a little more about your requirements. Do you have line of sight to all equipment? Is all the equipment IR (infrared) control or is some (PS3 for instance) Bluetooth. For all IR, line of sight stuff I find my Harmony 880 is wonderful and easily programmed. I recently purchased a more complex remote (URC 980) and while I can get it to work, it is giving me fits trying to customize it. Not the remote's fault, it is for 'professionals' which I am not.

    One word of caution on the 880; there is an issue with the remote making proper contact with the charging cradle. This is a well known issue but I found a work around since my batttery lasts a couple of weeks between charges. I use one of my daughter's hair band slipped over the base and then around the remote. Gives it just enough additional tension to charge correctly. I just make sure the hair band is not depressing any of the buttons while charging.

    OE,

    I own two Harmony 880's, one for the great room and one for the bedroom, have had them for at about five years, and I have yet to find a piece of equipment with a remote that it will not operate/emulate. I do agree with everything that USENET says above, especially the line of sight issue (because of IR) and the charging cradle issue (I have a slightly different workaround, but it's easy to fix, plus the batteries last a least a week without needing a recharge). However I do use one of them in conjunction with a remote control extender (have to be able to change channels while in the bathroom you know... LOL) and that takes care of the line of sight issue.

    FYI, I just looked on eBay and there are a bunch of 880's on there for an average price of $60. I absolutely love the macro concept, plus the fact that all of the codes exist on the Logitech website, so when you buy new equipment, chances are the codes will be available for download... it handles all of my equipment and it's quite varied, including the remotes for Windows Media Center. That's what is so great about this, you easily set up the task you want to (e.g., Watch the HDTV) and it automatically turns on the appropriate equipment and sets it to the proper settings, with the remote functions like volume and channel set to operate the piece of gear used for that purpose. One other thing, the ergonomics of this remote were designed very well in that it fits perfectly in your hand... it can easily be used with a single hand and thumb, just like it was made for it, 'cause it was. I absolutely love mine (you can't tell can you?).

    Anyway, if I were in your shoes, I'd buy a good looking 880 off of eBay and see what you think. Your investment is minimal and it's an easy way to see if it fits your needs... if not, you can probably sell it for the price you paid for it.

    Happy hunting,

  10. I already downloaded the manual, and there is no way to control those settings from the unit itself, the manual even specifically states that the only buttons to access this feature are on the remote. Not going to pay a lot of $$$ to find this remote when I'll just be upgrading the receiver in the future anyway. I just wish I could adjust the speaker settings to my liking, rather than whatever the last guy had it at. Guess I'll just have to go for Logitech. I want the Harmony One, but not sure I can justify the purchase right now money-wise.

    Well, that sucks. Looking on the web, it appears they don't even make the exact remote for your receiver any more (the RAV224), it's been replaced by the one for the RX-V3300 (RAV226)... don't know what the difference is, but if it were my luck, it would be missing just the function I needed.

    Can't go wrong with the Harmony. I've got the 880's myself, but they all work similarly. The One is pretty pricey, but a very nice unit. I've had mine for over five years now and have added several components to my system that were not in production when the remotes were made and it was no problem getting the codes... they constantly update their database with all the new units, so it should last you long into the future. The macro function with all the basic data stored on the web is such a great idea. Even my ex-wife could operate it and that's saying something! I've yet to find a function of a remote that it could not assign.

    Happy hunting and good luck!

  11. You can probably do it at the receiver itself. Remotes usually only control items that can be controlled on the unit itself, just more conveniently. Do you have a copy of the User Manual? If not you can probably get a PDF version online. If you really want a remote, I advise buying a Logitech Harmony, that will definitely take care of your needs, plus you can use it for whatever you already have and may buy in the future... they have a few under $100 that will do the trick. I love mine so much I bought two!

  12. And you get WAY more surround effect with the speakers positioned on the sides, slightly behind the ear and about ear high.

    I recent added two smaller KSB 1.1's to act as the side channels in a 7.1 system, but since most material is in 5.1, I hear them

    most of the time (my other surround are positioned on the wall behind me). What a difference! Way better surround experience.

    Just thought I would share... not that your wife will care, but we know you will ;-D

  13. You Sir, are a gentleman and a scholar! This should be fun, 'cause I don't have anything better to do, except listen to the new SACD of "In Search of the Lost Chord" I got today.

    Thanks Wuzzer, appreciate it... even if your damn Vikings licked our damn Seahawks uh huhs last Saturday... oh well, it's only preseason and we didn't want to break your quarterback... yet.

  14. This is my new puppy. We got her from the animal shelter, so they don't know a whole lot about her. They say she is a 1 year old shepherd mix, but as my wife says, there were a lot of "one year old" dogs. What do you guys think?

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    Congrats! I definitely see the lab, but also some terrier in the nose... has she developed any "habits" yet? Terriers love to dig, Labs love to tear up anything, including siding from houses, when they lose their baby teeth. I definitely recommend getting a DNA test. We too have a rescue dog that we thought for sure was a Bearded Collie (like a Old English Sheepdog, but straight hair), but he turned out to be a Clumber Spaniel and a Staffordshire Bull Terrier combined with a Weimaraner and a Belgian Tervuren! Heck I'd never heard of 3/4 of those breeds, but in looking them up, that did explain his high ears and a lot of his characteristics. We used Canine Heritage, but they were a bit pricey (>$100).

    Regardless, I encouarge you to get his breeds established as it will help in training and make her a better dog and you happier owners in the long run. Enjoy and I hope she likes good loud music

    !

  15. Gents (and Ladies too I hope),

    I'm interested in finding a list of ALL of the home products that Klipsch has produced (and discontinued) over the year. The site does a great job of giving a good description and picture(s) (most of the time at least) for the products, but I've yet to find a comprehensive list of the speakers made over the years... would have been pretty easy up to ~1980, but after that there were a mutitude of items made and honestly, I'm just curious. I get very listless when I'm without a list :-)

    Stay cool and rock hard!

  16. The light thing is a good idea especially when your not home. Yes

    I know how you feel I use three Forte ll's across the front, and two original Forte's for L & R rear with another Forte ll for the rear center for 6.1. For the .1 part I use a tapped horn sub, The sub and all the forte's make a really nice HT.

    I use other speakers for 2 CH in the same room, and considered just finding a match of those for a center, this would get the front 3 Forte ll's out of the room but the wife said were not selling any of the Forte's, keep it two separate systems. OK Big Smile

    That 2 CH setup was my wife and daughters idea, neither of them have a problem with big speakers, there were Cornwall lll's in there before for 2 CH, there now in my bedroom.

    That's a Forte ll in the pic of the right side of the room. avatar

    Dude, that sounds sweet and I'll bet it sounds even sweeter! Having all matched speakers, especially across the front, must sound awesome. What are you pushing them with? Your setup would work well for the SACD's they're putting out know that use the Quad mix from the 70's... the center isn't used at all on many of them... that's where the matchs would shine! What are thinking of replacing the Fortes with? And why?

    I too have Klipschs throughout the house, in the garage, and out on the deck. I've had two of the Promedia bookshelf speakers mounted out there upside down in the overhang for about 8 years now and they're still going strong. It's amazing the sound you can get out of those puppies even without the subwoofer as the separation is excellent... in the spring and the fall, it's great to kick back with a beer out on the deck and listen to KPIG and play with my dogs (who are almost as old as my Fortes!).

    My best friend is building his new house and he's including an 18' x 32' A/V room, totally separated from the bedrooms and well insulated. I've got a pair of mid 80's K-Horns I bought as an investment a couple years ago, and I was going to sell them on eBay before the pricing crashed. Now we're going to experiment at his new place with using either the K-Horns with a Cornwall center up front (the basic wall of sound but not quite as Paul envisioned it), or we're going to use three Cornwalls (he has three sets). We're going to include my Heresies as the side / rears. It will be a blast experimenting with that setup.

    Stay Cool!

  17. I think you did the right thing, the room looks great !

    Thanks dtel, I really appreciate the feedback from everyone. I too love the set up, it's actually 7.1 with some KSB 1.1 slightly behind each side and some SS something rears (they look very much like the RS-3's, but I can't remember the model number). Don't know if you can see it in the pictures or not, but behind both Fortes and the HDTV, there are three spotlights pointed up at the pictures. These are on a timer, come on at 7 PM, shut off at 1 AM. I just had the interior of the house painted in a southwestern theme, and late at night when I turn off the main room lights and shut off the TV, those spot lights really make my wall of sound and vision look cool... sometimes I don't think I deserve it, other times I just scream in delight (doesn't take much for me).

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