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Glad to hear that you got the speakers home in one piece, Steve. My loss is your gain (but as you could see, my house was no match for the Cornwalls). I'm glad that they are where they can hang out with friends. I hope that you are happy with my description... Now it's time for me to look into some ribbons or Quads (better match for the room). Oh wait, I have to wait for my new job to come through...chuckle...

---------------- On 2/11/2004 2:40:54 PM Kartracer77 wrote: Cornwall was first introduced in 1959 and manufactured by Klipsch until 1985. Cornwall II was first introduced in 1985 and manufactured by Klipsch until 1990 ---------------- But that's not quite accurate, is it? The Cornwall II dates back to the late 60s, right? I wonder if HBRbuilder could give a condensed, but complete timeline of the two series. Also, a good question would be whether or not the midrange on my Cornwall, which seems to be shared with the "new" IIs was a rare occurance or whether they decided from late '85 on to drop the old midrange and use the new midrange in both models to simplify sourcing (especially since they were probably "winding down" the original Cornwalls at that point). Finally, the last question to HBRbuilder would be, were pairs of Cornwalls generally bookmatched between the pairs or was that a rare occurance as well? I know that he's discussed the fact that single speakers were generally bookmatched. Did this extend to pairs as well? He's probably commented on this, but I couldn't find it in my searching. My pair is *definitely* bookmatched between the pairs. BTW, I've struck a deal at $600 and so, the speakers are now off the market. Thanks for the interest!

---------------- On 2/11/2004 9:45:44 AM garymd wrote: Dave, I think cornwalls were made until 89 or 90, maybe later. ---------------- Thanks Gary.

"Dave's Cornwalls are in fact Cornwalls, not Cornwall II's, as evidenced by the labels. The are walnut oil finish. The mids are K-57-K, as in the Cornwall II. The crossovers appear to be, according to Klipsch Tech Support best guess, B-2 or B-3. Apparently, because of their late Cornwall production date, the mids are as in the II's". Actually, they are B-3s. I forgot about the sticker on the top of the crossover that identifies them. Thanks for your kind words about the speakers. Looks like I've got a rare bird! (just kidding) I'm still curious about how many more Cornwalls were made after mine. Was 1986 a full production year for Cornwalls? Were any made in 1987 or later? Just curious.

"BTW - I can't believe nobody has bought these yet at that price! If I were in the market, I'd drive to get them for $550 or even $600". Well, there *is* a person interested in the speakers currently. As to the other guy who was talking about Keith, he made a decision based on the fact (I think) that he was really looking for something that could be restored to very close to mint condition and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't believe for a minute that he was playing games. He was quick with his replies and didn't attempt to string me along - he made a pretty quick decision after doing some research, plus, there's a pair in his locality that he might be able to buy without having to drive 4 hours. I'll have to say though that, after oiling them, they look really nice, Keith! As I said, right now, I have someone who's considering buying the speakers for $550. I'm not trying to start any bidding wars, but obviously, a $600 offer will be accepted (if he wants to go $600 right now, then *he* will have right of first refusal). I'm pretty sure that I could get more on eBay, but I'd certainly prefer to sell them to someone around here. That's one of the reasons that I wanted to limit the selling price to $600, I didn't want to start bidding wars here. I'd rather that they go to a Klipsch freak that will give them a good home. Oh yeah, I'm not desperate to sell them because I really *do* love them. But space is space. It *would* be nice though if I could sell them before the end of the month because I have property taxes due and I could use the money for that.

Correction. I wrote: "These are Cornwall IIs so it's not like an early 60s model or anything". I was mistaken - these are Cornwalls, not Cornwall IIs. Here's a question - what are the lastest of the original Cornwalls to be made? Mine were made in the first week of December, 1985. I ws just curious how much longer they were made...

Keith, You've got mail. I hope to have more photos for you in the next hour or so.

Well, I've decided that my Cornwalls are just too darn big for the small room that I have them shoe-horned into. I really hate parting with them, but I'm tired of having a tiny corridor in which to move around in. My question is this - refinish or not? The cabinets are in what I would consider "pretty good" shape. I'm guessing that they might rate 6 or 7 on some furniture expert's list. One speaker has a slight ring (not water damage - I can't really tell what kind of object created it - it seems to be a pressure mark). The top of the same speaker has a vague pale area that probably *was* mild water damage (no raised grain or anything - this would probably disappear with oiling). The sides of the speakers have a couple of small gouges and there's a small chip on one corner. In general, the finish of these walnut cabinets is quite good. There *are* a couple of minor edge marks in various places. Having seen what can be done with refinishing, I'm pretty sure that these speakers could be refinished to close to original (although I'm sure that it would be clear that they were refinished). Should I offer them unaltered or should I bring them back to a better appearance? These are Cornwall IIs so it's not like an early 60s model or anything. Would it be worth the time in terms of a higher price to do this? Or, is it better to sell them as original and let the next owner determine whether or not they should be refinished? The serial numbers on these are 8549751/2. AFAIK, all components are original. The components are K-77, K-57Ks and K-33Es. All are flat back plates. Oh yeah, one of the black grills has some minor pilling. What scares me is that I've determined that I could probably get more money and sell them with less hassle by selling the components separately. But, have no fear, I'm not going to the dark side. I'm in Nashville and I'll probably put them up on eBay within the month after getting some feedback from you guys. However, if someone wants to offer $550+ for them as is, feel free to contact me - only thing is (big surprise), I'd prefer pickup rather than shipping. I'd be happy to supply pics or arrange for an audition. I will NOT sell them for more than $600 in any case, so, if I have multiple offers, the earliest bid at the same price (or $600) will get them. Of course, if they go on eBay, I'll have no such limits.

quote: Originally posted by BigBusa: Belial, I bought one from onecall.com Here's a link to all their recievers. http://ww2.onecall.com/About_00001000_17_51_0_0_0_0.htm Their prices are inline with most online electronics dealers. Great customer service. You will get a (HUMAN) customer service rep usually on the first ring! From my experience the cheapest place to buy recievers online is Ubid.com They have mostly refurbished/openbox/discontinued items usually with full factory warrantees. That's where I just got my HK AVR510. $409 at Ubid ...$625 and up anywhere else! I will say their customer service absolutely sucks! Expect to wait a minimum of 15 minutes on hold before talking to a human. It's usually more like 20 minutes though. I have waited 38 minutes before! It's impossible to hang up once I have 20 or 30 minutes already invested. IMO ...If you want dirt cheap pricing with no customer service go with Ubid. If you want decent pricing with great customer service go with onecall. In regards to Ubid, you need to make sure that they *do* indeed have a real manufacturer's warranty. They might be a Klipsch dealer but they sometimes claim to offer a manufacturer's warranty when they actually can't. Case in point is Denon and Mitsubishi. They claim warranties on both company's products but they aren't authorized to do so. I know this for a fact with Mitsubishi because I got a defective refurbished DVD player from Ubid that claimed to have a 90 day warranty from Mitsu. They will *not* honor it though. First of all, they don't sell reburbished gear *anywhere* and they don't sell on the Internet (so they said). If you go to the Denon webite, it specifically lists the only on-line dealers of their products andf Ubid isn't one of them. I'll bet that you'd have the same problem with getting warranty service through them as well. To Ubid's credit, they have offered to take back the DVD player and pay postage both ways. We'll see how long *that* takes.

quote: Originally posted by JMON: 1985 would be Cornwall II. It should say on the label where the SN is.