Mighty Favog
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Because of one dimmer switch in my home office I always get a nasty buzz type interference throughout the entire house on any radio tuned to an AM station. Doesn't matter if the dimmer is all the way up or somewhere in between.
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogany
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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It may be hard for me to explain but you might go to http://www.wbtusa.com and click on #4 Banana Plugs. It might help. The plugs would still be the standard + and - for speaker and not intended for a bi-wire set up.
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I'm not mbi-wiring (yet?) but maybe in a few years. I just remember seeing on here that "decent" speaker wire gives a better signal than the straps. I'm using Original Monster Cable so I guess the signal loss won't be a problem. Any idea what guage that stuff is (12ga?)or who makes expandable tipped banana clips? I found some in a magazine but they're about $20 ea. and then there's the sleeves for the cable strands and the special crimping pliers. That all came to about $135.00(more than I wanted to spend).
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I'm considering using banana terminals to my KLF-20's. We move around the furniture a couple times a year and this may have less wear on the cables. Monster makes a some plugs that would fit the bill but I need to know if they are going to cause any appreciable loss of signal. The price is right at $16.00/pair but is this too cheap to be of any real quality? Using these plugs would also make it easier to get rid of the bridging straps on the speaks and use speaker cable instead; I read on the BB somewhere that the straps were just coated brass. I suppose my favorite and ultimate type of plug would be ones with the adjustable/expandable tips. Any input?
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogany
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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Believe me. It's at almost no boost now (+/-1.5). All is not lost.
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Does that date-code system still work for the Legend Series?
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogany
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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Just put in the new tweeter baffles. Definitely a big difference. They're toned down a lot. Guess I'm still used to wide dispersion drivers instead of horns. Oh well, back to the beginning with the break in.
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ooops.
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dbx is still alive. They were bought by Harmon Kardon a few years back. Go to http://www.dbxpro.com to see all the new stuff. Yes, they are mainly into just pro-audio (live and studio). I tried to get parts from them but they seem to be all but disavowing anything that has to do with the dbx of old. I had to go to e-bay to find some rack ears for the 3bx; not too bad though, $28.00 for two sets of 1U's unused or mounted.
I just use the 3bx for more spirited listening. If any classical come on, that thing goes in "bypass" for sure. I usually left mine at 20% expansion and about 40% threshold. It really kills off soft signals, but then again, that's what it's supposed to do.
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogany
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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The perfect soundroom? We pondered the inside of a planetarium.
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogany
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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Yes, Tommy Chong did make a Cameo apperance on the show. Not sure which episode though. Maybe someone can go to http://www.nashbridges.com to find out.
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogany
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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James,
The one I think your thinking about was a 20/20 that was about $600 or so, this one is rather new (within the last couple of years anyway) The 1231, for what it's worth, does have sliders. 62 of them. And clipping indicators to boot.
Yes, the 3BX does a decent job but it is easy to let it get away from you. If you let it average right at the threshold it's about right.
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogany
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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That's probably what fried my tweeters in the KLF-20's. I was pushing +12db total over flat (old speaker settings that I didn't change when these came in a week ago...DOH!).
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogany
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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Did anyone catch the episode of Nash Bridges a couple months ago when Cheech was unsnarling a traffic jam at an intersection? He was happily doing this while people were crossing the street when one man dressed in pink tights, Mickey Mouse ears and a mask was crossing in ballet movements. Cheech was giving him odd looks and I didn't get it at first but when the strangely attired man was seen a second time I had to fall on the floor laughing. And I haven't seen "Up in Smoke" for almost twenty years!!
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogony
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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Most repair glues I've found were not easy to deal with. The domes are usually very thin, kinda like a thick Saran Wrap. If your so inclined (read: if you have big bucks) a replacement diaphram is available from Klipsch and usually they're not hard to put in. The part number is #164016 for a K-63kn tweeter. The only other part if the whole tweeter assembly which is a lot more. Just had to order two new ones for my KLF-20's after a put +12db over flat into them (settings from the old speakers). DOH!!
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogony
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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Looks great. Too bad we can't breifley listen to them as well
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogony
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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Thanks James, I can now justify my dbx 1231 and my very imperfect living room with hardwood floors and Party Pit couch. In a month the girlfriend plans on re-arranging the furniture. Thank God for SPL meters and my own taste.
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogony
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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First, I want to thank you guys for a push in the right direction. Next, I'm pretty sure I've found the problem. I made a call to Klipsch's tech support and the gentleman asked me if the volume was pushed past twelve o'clock. Said to myself "My God! At that level I wouldn't be able to be in the house mush less the room!!" So something was definitely NOT consistent with the status-quo of how to listen to these. I did the "battery on the driver terminals" test and all the drivers passed. I even compared each driver side-by side to make sure I was getting the same amount crackle (sounds weird but I was trying to be thorough). After all this, things are pointing to me and some very old habits from having crappy speakers and thinking something sounds better if the tone controls are turned up. I'm concluding that the treble has always been there it was just being downed out (or clipped) by overmodulating the bass and lower mids. Could it be that playing them at this insane high level have broken the tweeters in sooner? The new settings have the receiver set flat (taking off 8db treble, 8db bass and 6db bass), the loudness control still engaged and then setting the eq to half of what it was, now at about +2db or less. The eq has two settings +/-6db and +/-15db and is set on the former. The treble is now prominent once more. The other problem I had before, and I think it should have been a dead give away, was that it was almost impossible to find a comfortable listening level at lower volumes. The signal was so strong that it was either not enough or just shy of annoying for the moment. Nothing in between. So now I have greater range of fine adjustment with attenuation and a more civilized higher end. I'm gonna leave it this way to make sure I get used to it and let the ears adjust. Of course this is all going to change soon, the girlfriend wants to re-arrange the furniture next month. great.
On the subject about my hearing; I do appreciate everyone's concern to seek a professional opinion. My hearing contrarily has been more than excellent most of my life. My last test was four years ago and the doc said it is 10-15% more sensitive than average in attenuation and 5% above for tonal differentiations. This was realized and first tested for rather early in life when I went for a physical to enter into the world of professional skateboarding (now retired; I'm 35). This afforded me great balance as well. Thanks again!
BTW-I ordered two replacement baffles today just to be sure.
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogany
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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Does this mean I no longer have a warranty? I just bought and received them on Feb. 14th and Feb. 19th respectively. For an even 1k mind ya.
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogony
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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As far as I can tell the drivers do have sound coming from them. It's not crackling but they do sound weak comparatively. Should I try the "battery on the terminals" test or is that only if it is a totally dead driver? BTW- Yes, both the Receiver and the eq are at near max (+6db and what ever the Receiver can deliver). Fortunately I did find a good bass tone with a good placement. The deadness I'm hearing could explain why the left channel (A) is not as loud as the right. I just got the Receiver back from Everett Audio (Carver's people) for a tune up and when I set it up it sounded a lot better than before (both channels playing pretty much equal). Reading other posts on the BB there has been mention of the highs being very bright in the beginning. I assumed (go ahead "When you assume.....") that what I was hearing was normal. Also I didn't yet find that proper spot for the bass to come alive. I'm hoping this is covered
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I'm pretty sure my KLF-20's are breaking, if not broken, in. I've only played them for about 15-20 hours. It's just that now the high end sounds rather flat. All the drivers work and everything is in phase, it's just not that (overly)-bright tone that came through last week when I got them. I'm open for suggestions! Should I replace the bridging straps on the binding posts to...??? Right now both the eq and the receiver's tone controls are just about maxed and it doesn't come close to what they were. Granted, I thought that the brightness when they first arrived was too much and could be toned down but now it's straining to keep up.
Any hints BobG??
Thanks,
BTW, Is there such thing as a beefed-up passive cross-over for a set of 20's?? AL maybe?
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogony
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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O.K. so I'm a little miffed right now but it'll pass. I did an impromptu resonance test on the cabs yesterday by pounding my fist on the top. It rattled!! The sound was coming from inside the cab. It sounded as if the midrange driver was bouncing on the support shelf. Opened it up and it was. Cut out a small piece of peel-n-stick felt and put it on the offending contact area. Problem solved. Went to do likewise to the other speak and got a big surprise. It had the same problem.....plus one. The midrange horn was cross-threaded!! Put on the felt as before and carefully removed the horn, re-wrapped the threads with Teflon tape and reassembled the whole thing. Sure hope that's all that's wrong with these things. But they sound good and getting better. Only 92 hours to go on the break-in-period!
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogony
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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My God!! The high end of these things could make your ears bleed. I would really like tone it down a bit but I want make sure they're broken in first. I've read 100 hours or so sould do it. 94 to go!! Placement really does have a lot to do with it. I started out with about 3" distance from the wall (ick!) then read the BB to try other positions. Then tried 13"-14", better but not great, that's o.k. since it sticks out too far into the room. Then tried 7". BOOOMMM!!!.....perfect. BTW does anyone know the gauge size of original Monster Cable?
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogony
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable
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Banana plug termination and signal degradation?
in General Klipsch Info
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That's why I'm thinking for the future with upgrades for this set-up. Someday I hope to find a Carver C-4000 that's "really" rack mountable and no just with the grab handles. Then a like Carver 1.5t amp, those were internally wired with Monster Cable. When money is available again (and the girlfriend stops hounding me about vacationing in Toronto) I'll start looking at e-bay very closely for some clean units. Yes, I know the 1.5t is obscenely more power than I need (350wpc) and maybe I'll have the buck for some used Mac stuff but for now I'm limited in the funds dept. Does ALK have upgraded crossovers for the Legend series? I understand that compared to the Heritage line some purists may consider this to be a waist of time and money. I've been known to try to soupe-up the un-soupable (Did the same thing with my non-turbo Eagle Talon with no forced injection and no Nitrous, not the fastest; just surprising).
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Tom
KLF-20 Mahogany
Carver Receiver MXR-150
Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge
Carver TL-3100 CD
Yamaha K-1020 Cassette
dbx 1231 EQ
dbx 3bx Series Two
H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer
Monster Interlink 300 mk II
Original Monster Cable