mmckown

Hummmm....Bacon. Your attempt to deflect our responses to your attack on the gun totin' members of the board, while skillful, has failed.

Phil Collins

How many times have you used your guns to actually, specifically protect yourself from evil people? Well if you wanted me dead, better shoot from across the street or from a sniper position (I don't know any evil people who wants me dead that bad) Butttttt....If said evil doer is trying to mug/capture me and has a gun to my head......I presently know 8 different gun disarm scenarios and practice them 2-3 times per week with one of the best in the business. More than likely I will shoot the evil guy with his own gun than get shoot myself. The techniques you are using all depend on one thing, that you can move quicker than your assailant can pull a trigger. Which contrary to the uninformed beliefs of some, you can do. Your techniques work, don't they. I feel much more comfortable carrying a small blade......If you get jumped at night/blindsided...I doubt that the aggressor will give you time to pull your gun and us it affectively ..... home invasion? well you roll the dice you take your chances...... On one hand you espouse that you know several disarm techniques and on the other hand doubt that others can react quickly enough to make a difference? As you well know training is the key... Firearms are the great equalizer. But they do not guarentee anything.

I was invited here by someone that wanted me to post in an area that I have no little expertise in. And to be totally honest I don't give a good darn bit if it offends you or not. If something I say offends the board operator or moderators they can censor it or me as they choose. Until such time I will ad my $.02 to topics that I either have sometyhing on point to add or questions to ask. Have a blessed day Mac

All of which are tools to be used to defend yourself. At least one of which you listed are capable of deadly force. I carry a side arm. It is my choice and it is a wise one in my opinion and experience. It is most certainly not the end all or be all of my existence, nor does it defiine who or what I am. But it does say that I understand a bit about the realities of the world. And that I am willing to take steps to control my own destiny. Apparently others are happy leaving that for strangers to decide for them. I find that concept disgusting and very very sad...

I agree it is a funny world and it is interesting to see how other people live. Hummm, fear of litigation trumps fear of death in your world. Which is it, Californication or Taxachewsus? And while you hated carrying a cell phone, probably largely because of the limits it placed on your freedoms, I on the other hand enjoy carring a weapon largely due to the freedoms it preserves for me. Does deciding to carry a firearm have responsibilities attached to it? Of course. Any time you decide to take action to become more self determining there are costs. For me it makes more sense for me to have to explain to a Judge why I shot some one than for some cop to explain to my wife why I won't be coming home again...EVER. But to each their own. Everyone is entitled to make their own decisions. Iam sure some here would find my Sansui 9090DB and AR9s to be wanting. But for me in my world and for my tastes it fits fine, and has for 30 years. I do find the choice to be a victim slightly more important than my choice of sound systems.

Have a Blessed day... Edited to remove political comment.

Not BS at all. The "El Presidente" shooting drill is based on a real happening where a mexican presidental body guard drew his weapon and shot and killed not one or two, but SIX armed men advancing on his protectee. At the beginning of the incident his weapon was holstered and the attackers had weapons out and trained on their targets (the president and his body guards). Several years ago a NYC undercover officer shot and killed two people in a car he and they were sitting in. Both assailants (oddly enough other NYC cops, apparently dirty ones) were found with their weapons in their hands. The officer was almost charged with murder, because the police and DA, like you, did not believe that he could draw and fire faster than the other two officers could simply pull their triggers. He later proved repeatedly that he could. The simple fact is this. It takes longer for someone to percieve a threat, make the decision to fire and then pull the trigger, than it takes a person that has decided to fire to draw a weapon and fire. It takes practice, but you do not need to be some super Pistolero to do it.

Practice, practice and practice some more. It's that pesky responsibility thing again. Formal training is nice and a certain plus to your abilities. Know the law and your Rights and how they pertain to you in EVERY situation.

Taurus has come a long way in the last 30 years. Not quite up to S&W standards IMHO, but darn close. With your purchases all you need to do is Practice. And then practice, practice and practice some more. With the shot gun too. Shotties are nice, but they are not magic. You need to aim it just like every other weapon. Both you and your wife need to shoot it.

I would suspect that you could get a LOT more if you sold it privately. Just check with your local and Federal laws to see how to go about it. Remember, what they offer you in trade only means they are going to sell it for more... I wouldn't bet the farm on that. The dealer will ask more, and has the ability to sit on it for months or even years to turn a few bucks profit. Rightly or wrongly (wrongly in my opinion) Rugers semis are just not that popular. The boards I frequent routinely have pretty much any Ruger semi in the $300-350 range and they sit long enough to make me sure that they are selling for less. Ones priced in the $250-275 range seem to go pretty quick. Unless $25 is enough to break a $300 deal for you, I'd take it and not look back...

"Aim small, miss small." How many military, police and private defense instructors recommend shooting for the head, especially one that is moving? J frame S&Ws are fine choices. My brother carries an S&W 340PD. Very light, accurate if you do your part. Manual of arms is simplicity itself. J frames (as a whole) are the gun I recommend to beginners for a carry firearm. 357s are stout in them, especially in M&Ps and PDs or other airweight frames. I also like 1911s. An excellant fighting sidearm. Carried one for years. However I was seduced by the dark side and transisitioned to the Glocks shortly after they hit the market in .45ACP. Never really got used to the grip and switched to the XD .45 a while ago. Just changed to one with a thumb safety a few weeks ago. Carries very well, almost like a 1911. Been shooting the heck out of my CZ52 lately. 7.62 Tok is dirt cheap in comparision to most anything else right now. Worth the price of one to be able to get the range time with a higher caliber weapon. (vice .22) Magic bullet -vs- hitting what you shoot at. I am glad some are confident in their ability to hit their target. Unfortunately stats do not back up that arguement. Typical gun fights involving professionals show that MOST rounds fired fail to hit the mark. And that most hits are not fight stoppers. When I was younger few if any agencies advocated head shots as openning targets. Generally to CBM was the rule. That may have changed in the last few years. if so it is a change I for one would not support.

Hey dave, Have asked the same question anout the felony murder charge on MGO. Found this seaching for a news article on the trial. Mike