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17 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said:
Thinking the headline would more accurately read: Shutdowns ‘delayed’ 60 million covid19 infections. Already the rate/pace of new covid19 infections are rising. Time will tell how severe it will become. It’s sorta like the start of the ‘dark ages’. Covid19 has exposed some serious weaknesses in our systems and 10’s of thousands have died in substandard (IMHO) nursing homes.......... and the rioters desire that we remove police enforcement 😳. Guess these are the same folks who intelligently horded toilet paper for a respiratory disease.
Yes, moving forward, the impacts of the policy to allow all the protesting (great social distancing but I guess with so many folks out of work, what else could they do?) on the numbers in the next couple of weeks. The ignorance is rampant, sorry to say but we could be proven wrong... doubtful though.
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16 hours ago, Sancho Panza said:
Apparently, the Hurricane, Rioting & Looting are more important than Wuhan.
Depends on what you want from Wuhan. Do you want to know how the virus really started?
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20 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:
There are many millions of healthcare professionals in America. So your answer is: “Only” 1,200 ‘supposed’ medical professionals signed this letter and the liberal media is highlighting it because it fits their narrative. And I’d wager than most of those ‘supposed’ professionals are not doctors or nurses. Stop believing the hype. You seem smart enough to know whose driving agendas.
Agreed. Anything that plays to the narrative wins. That's why you need to have a broad brush when evaluating news. Not CNN, MSNBC, ABC, but a broad swath. What is even more telling is when they all say the exact "EXACT" same thing. Lemmings.
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9 minutes ago, dwilawyer said:
So we have the first French study back in March that was rejected (not retracted) that said it was effective (and spurred the media frenzy), then a second French study that said, we tried to repeat first French study and cannot duplicate the results, we find it ineffective. Now we have that Worldwide study that says it is ineffective and they are withdrawing that study? Did I understand that right? That study says ineffective?
The Remdesivir studies show that it is effective (in terms of reduced time in hospital vs. placebo), and I am not aware of any of the controlled trials being questioned or withdrawn.
Travis
The studies are tainted so they can't decide what to do. Keep on letting politics and money into the picture. I had even thought there were some questions on the Remdesivir studies. Go figure.
Seems there are several therapeutic possibilities. Choose your poison literally.
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2 minutes ago, dwilawyer said:
We had a minor spike here in Austin/Travis County, but not near what there has been in San Antonio, Dallas and Houston (Assuming the state figures are accurate).
More and more a good idea to lay low for a bit.
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3 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said:
I am just hoping we’ve staved it off long enough for some better treatments and medications to have evolved. It is still out there. Now we’ll get to see just how dynamic it can be.
Add to that all the protesting that occurred in already hot spots.
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1 hour ago, CECAA850 said:
I'm sure you're not surprised.
At this point it is like Poker. Your chips are on the table and you hope you have a winning hand so you let it ride. Now that the recovery is starting I doubt anyone will be trying to lock back up again.
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You use the corner for bass reinforcement. Not sure there is a benefit of the corner when you are doing mids, particularly with the folds which aren't conducive to passing higher frequencies. Probably just a project for the fun of it.
Midbass, possibly though again seems to be rather frequency range limited.
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5 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:
Presuming that this is a lab-crafted contagion it seems strange that China was not more aggressively vigorous in trying to contain its spread - IF - that release was in fact an accident. IMHO how China dealt with the covid19 virus once on the loose is more damning than from whence it originated. China knew it had a monstrous contagion but encouraged activities that spread it around the planet and kept the alarm levels low. It seems too strategic, almost calculated, as though China wanted a pandemic. China is too scientifically sophisticated for anyone to believe it would stupidly or innocently allow such an ugly pandemic to evolve.
If the virus was engineered then it is going to raise a lot of questions. Doubt if we’ll get any answers.
Plausible Deniability. Everyone thinks they are too smart to have done this so they couldn't have.
Knowing how many people were affected outside of Wuhan (in China) in the first couple of months would tell you if they worked to and had the virus contained from the onset. If so you can let the horses out of the barn to the corral cause it is fenced but not to roam free in the field.
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15 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:
Back in the saddle again. Hydroxychlorquine research for covid19 treatment to restart after Lancet study rebuked.
People's agendas. They couldn't care how many people die. Shows the sad state of the world. Maybe the ants were the smart ones and the virus is for a reason.
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2 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:
I thought the Lancet hydroxychlorquine paper was ‘loose’ and apparently I was correct. So once again hydroxychlorquine is back in the cocktail of drugs with potentially some applications in treating covid19. Hydroxychlorquine is a powerful drug and it has its side effects. But when you’re staring death in the face you take your chances to maybe better your lot. Furthermore if hydroxychlorquine does have some use for treating covid19 perhaps how that works could be identified and enhanced.
And - it surely does look to me that the rush to discredit hydroxychlorquine is motivated by desires to discredit Trumps optimism about the drug. Hydroxychlorquine is certainly no cure but if it has any merit it is of use.
Well put... you need to draw from your arsenal. An arsenal usually isn't just one weapon.
Definitely too much of a political angle and whom ever is trying to cash in to trust the information. Sad when so many lives are on the line.
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1 hour ago, Bosco-d-gama said:
Hydroxychlorquine is a drug that’s been in use for over 1/2 century and remains a safe and effective treatment for several disorders. Like most drugs it has its side effects, unwanted things that the drug can do to a person. It is up to the prescriber to know how to deploy any medication. It is up to the patient to report untoward problems with any drug and to track their own responses and allergies to pharmaceuticals.
Hydroxychlorquine was trialed in treating covid19 early and reportedly had positive results. Since then that has been shown to be inaccurate or less than accurate. We are now seeing a similar path with remdesivir with studies giving us different outcomes. Viruses are not simple diseases to treat. We see a medical community doing its utmost to bring the world medicines and treatments to curtail a raging and deadly pandemic. Should they or our leaders not express optimism when some appear to work? Guess that depends of who they are more than what they say. IMHO the messages about hydroxychlorquine were expressions of hope - not proclamations of panaceas. IMHO the media despised the messenger more than his message, because IMHO had other leaders said the exact same things they would’ve been reported on much differently.
Hydroxychlorquine when used for covid19 is used at doses that approach the upper limits of safe applications for the drug. No mystery there.....this is well understood. Those were the doses supposedly required to obtain results. At the time potential untoward side effects of hydroxychlorquine were considered ‘better’ than the outcome of untreated covid19. That’s a daily trade off when using chemotherapy for cancers. It is calculated poisoning. You aim to kill the bad and not kill the patient. It doesn’t always work.
Now we have the complete picture and hydroxychlorquine does not work as hoped. It should not be used for treating covid19. It will still be used for treating other diseases. It is not a ‘lethal’ drug that needs to be removed from the formulary.
These are my thoughts. Thanks for asking.
Seems to be reasonable for certain people within certain circumstances. Each of these has a shot of working, just no silver bullet or maybe only 30/70 but to someone with little hope, that's better than sitting on a ventilator if it can be avoided. Seems the ventilator ends up being just as low a success rate.
Does anyone know what the percentages of success rates are outside of letting the virus take it's course?.
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7 hours ago, BigStewMan said:
say tomorrow China says they have a vaccine and will share it -- what is the protocol from the FDA -- do we still do extensive testing?
Could you envision China pimping a bogus vaccine? Wouldn’t surprise me anymore.
Where did all those bad test kits come from? How many of our drugs come from China>?
I never looked at the FDA site and saw how many drugs are recalled for containing things that should not be in them. It is amazing, in a very bad way.
https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts
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2 hours ago, tube fanatic said:
As usual, the corruption just doesn’t end. How many billions did we give Moderna?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/business/moderna-vaccine-stock-sales-invs/index.htmlMaynard
What is new.... Corruption? Insider info is the easiest way to make money as you see from our govt.
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1 hour ago, CECAA850 said:
We need to get a sample and then copy it. Turn about is fair play.
Do you trust it?
Where are all these other pharmaceuticals that are having problems because they have high levels of carcinogens and such coming from?
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We all knew that we don't need to wear masks unless we think we are sick right:
When and how to wear medical masks to protect against coronavirus?
If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
- Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
- Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
- If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.
https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1274280/retrieve
I guess we are all healthy until proven otherwise.
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6 hours ago, RANDYH said:
COVID-19 Is Likely Airborne, Aerosol Scientist Says
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200527/aerosol-scientist-covid19-is-likely-airborne
Did this person just wake up? How else did they think you caught it, off of just surfaces or did you just get it from the sunshine?
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21 minutes ago, babadono said:
He's a lying sack of sheet. Or a moron. But I don't think he is a moron.
How about idiot. Can't push on the mental facilities.
As I was hearing was implied, if you loved them you wouldn't have them in a nursing home. Looking for the scapegoat so it was everyone else's fault.
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2 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:
I listened to Cuomo talk about how none of the nursing home issues in his state were his fault. He blamed everyone form the nursing homes to the federal government. I almost threw up.
Ya, he didn't know that the elderly were at risk and if you lobbed a COVID bomb in the middle of a nursing home, nothing would happen.
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44 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said:
Old and feeling depressed cuz of covid19?
https://khn.org/news/for-seniors-covid-19-sets-off-a-pandemic-of-despair/
Stop smoking, take better care of yourself for a couple of months, build up your immune system with good nutrition and venture out. Die from isolation or take your chances. Not really much of a choice if you were a jet setting older person.
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8 minutes ago, RANDYH said:
Newsweek reports they might hit 125000 deaths by August -, the population is very poor in latin America , Brazil etc , they are going to need a lot of help , they dont have the medical infrastructure
-https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-death-projections-brazil-rise-90000-125000-august-1506533
Yes, medical awareness, treatment, and infrastructure to carry out vaccinations should they appear.
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Just now, billybob said:
Even if a few points off, that is some hellacious numbers.
Exactly.
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Covid19 redux
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Essentials....
Just make sure you have guns when the police department disappears. Oh wait, no 2nd Amendment.
If we are lucky, there will not be a second coming of the virus. Still the social, political, media, and economic of the first pass will be felt for years if it just doesn't change the US Republic forever.